Mum who had throat cut by brutal ex faces JAIL if she refuses to write to him in jail

PucaMama

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/world-news/mum-who-throat-cut-brutal-5164409


how does this make sense? he deserves no contact with those children

darkpagandeath

PucaMama wrote: »

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/world-news/mum-who-throat-cut-brutal-5164409


how does this make sense? he deserves no contact with those children

Law is the Law same law system put him in jail, So can't exactly turn around and pick and chose what one's you follow.

PucaMama

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Law is the Law same law system put him in jail, So can't exactly turn around and pick and chose what one's you follow.

he tried to kill her? in front of their children?

The_Valeyard

Im sure it would or will be very easy to claim that writing to this man is causing mental anguish and trauma, a good solicitor will help her find a way around that. Still though, he is the Dad and does have right regarding his kids.

eviltwin

How she will put pen to paper to that scumbag I don't know. Imagine having to write to a man who tried to kill you about your kids. Any rights he had ended when he did what he did. Why the letters have to come direct from her I don't understand, is there no third party who can pass the information on?

PucaMama

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Im sure it would or will be very easy to claim that writing to this man is causing mental anguish and trauma, a good solicitor will help her find a way around that. Still though, he is the Dad and does have right regarding his kids.

his own behaviour, attempting to murder the mother of those children, should show he deserves no contact with them especially not to be bragging about how he is living.

jam_mac_jam

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Im sure it would or will be very easy to claim that writing to this man is causing mental anguish and trauma, a good solicitor will help her find a way around that. Still though, he is the Dad and does have right regarding his kids.

Well no, he slashed her throat so maybe he loses some rights there... if he doesn't he should...

PhineasPhreak

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Law is the Law same law system put him in jail, So can't exactly turn around and pick and chose what one's you follow.

The law is also far from perfect in many instances and requires review, as this one clearly does.

What an awful place the it would be if laws couldn't be challenged.

This law is clearly ridiculous and requires such review. There's no arguing that.

The_Valeyard

PucaMama wrote: »

his own behaviour, attempting to murder the mother of those children, should show he deserves no contact with them especially not to be bragging about how he is living.

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Well no, he slashed her throat so maybe he loses some rights there... if he doesn't he should...

Not saying its right, but legally he would have those rights, but im sure there is another way to he could get information on his children rather than tormenting this poor lady.

darkpagandeath

PhineasPhreak wrote: »

The law is also far from perfect in many instances and requires review, as this one clearly does.

What an awful place the it would be if laws couldn't be challenged.

This law is clearly ridiculous and requires such review. There's no arguing that.

Indeed, But at the moment it's the law.

Gatling

She should take the kids and leave the UK and start over .
Absolutely disgraceful actions from a total scumbag .

Donkey Oaty

The best way for us to deal with this situation is to give some help in writing the letter to save her the bother.

I'll start:

My dearest husband,

I am writing to update you on the situation with our children.

You remember them? The ones that were just two when they saw you batter their mum with your weight-lifting dumbbells, slash her throat with an Army knife and try to ­suffocate her with a pillow.

You'll be delighted to know that they haven't witnessed anything like that since you were locked up.

Yours etc

Carlos Orange

PhineasPhreak wrote: »

This law is clearly ridiculous and requires such review. There's no arguing that.

I doubt the law is ridiculous or requires a review.
Whoever reviewed the application (presumably a judge) needs a bit of a talking to.

Pherekydes

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

The best way for us to deal with this situation is to give some help in writing the letter to save her the bother.

I'll start:

My dearest husband,

I am writing to update you on the situation with our children.

You remember them? The ones that were just two when they saw you batter their mum with your weight-lifting dumbbells, slash her throat with an Army knife and try to ­suffocate her with a pillow.

You'll be delighted to know that they haven't witnessed anything like that since you were locked up.

Yours etc

Seems far too reasonable, especially the salutation.

I'd write what I wrote about my kids to my ex after she left:

"He was the mildest-mannered man
That ever scuttled ship or cut a throat."

BBJBIG

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Law is the Law same law system put him in jail, So can't exactly turn around and pick and chose what one's you follow.

Well ... if she was my Daughter, I can assure you there would be No need for any Judge or Jury for the Kunt :mad:
Nor an Undertaker either ... they'd never find the Kunt ... his bits would be spread out all over the place.
He'd beg to be dealin with ISIS.

eviltwin

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Im sure it would or will be very easy to claim that writing to this man is causing mental anguish and trauma, a good solicitor will help her find a way around that. Still though, he is the Dad and does have right regarding his kids.

He can **** off with his rights. Trying to kill your kids mother isn't the actions of a loving father. Any parental rights he has should be gone after what he put those children through.

The_Valeyard

eviltwin wrote: »

He can **** off with his rights. Trying to kill your kids mother isn't the actions of a loving father. Any parental rights he has should be gone after what he put those children through.

Already posted a follow up to that, I didnt agree with his position, simply stated legally, he has the right.

Edit: He is a complete and utter scumbag, so do not think for any second I am defending the cockroach.


I would also be of the point of view that if the law is changed around this, it should be the same for women, if a woman beats her husband near death and is imprisoned, men need to be given the same protection.

Badly Drunk Boy

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Im sure it would or will be very easy to claim that writing to this man is causing mental anguish and trauma, a good solicitor will help her find a way around that. Still though, he is the Dad and does have right regarding his kids.

There are plenty of men who haven't tried to kill the mother of their children who have less rights than that.

Potential-Monke

Easy solution.

Letter: "They're still alive"

Picture: The kids from behind.

The_Valeyard

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

There are plenty of men who haven't tried to kill the mother of their children who have less rights than that.

Very true. Rights of dads needs to be addressed, but that's another topic, don't want to derail OPs thread

Cee-Jay-Cee

Dear scumbag

Everyday I tell xxxx and xxxxx about you, their father and how he tried to kill me like the cowardly mad bastard he is. They tell me they hate you and never want to see you again.
Xxxxx is 4ft tall and full of hate for you.
Xxxxx us 3ft 8" and hates you even more than xxxxx.
They both love school which is in stark contrast to what they think of you.

Send the same letter every 4 months and vary the height by 1" each time.

qt3.14

I'd take the opportunity to cruelly confront him with his lack of freedom.
"Today I went to the shops. Remember what that was like?"

keithclancy

She could just move to Ireland and forget about the whole thing.

Seems to work for a lot of people.

kylith

Is there anything to stop her sending letters that just read 'My sons are doing much better without you in their lives' ?

SpaceTime

She should apply for asylum in a sane country.

The UK deserves a bit of international embarrassment for this.

Neyite

I'd write the most generic, mundane thing I could think of. And repeat that three times a year. Word for word.

For a country that can forcibly adopt children without the consent of their abusive /addict parents I don't see why they cant do that in this case. Parenting is a privilege, a gift, imo, not a right.

If ever there was a worthy crowd-funding cause its this one. I'd gladly donate to a legal fund for her to fight the bastard all the way.

DavidRamsay99

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Not saying its right, but legally he would have those rights, but im sure there is another way to he could get information on his children rather than tormenting this poor lady.

F*ck his rights. :mad:
The creep cut her throat and smashed her face with weights.
He's lower than pond scum.

SEPT 23 1989

I would write to all the other prisoners in the gaol requesting that he never sets foot outside the prison walls alive