Microfibers for polishing?

Stallingrad

Can any suggest where to get some good quality microfibers for polishing?

Cheers.

Curran

Assume you mean for buffing polish?

For polishing you'd usually use an applicator or pad; microfibers to buff the polish off.

bbari

Stallingrad wrote: »

Can any suggest where to get some good quality microfibers for polishing?

Cheers.

For buffing off the polish I got "Microfiber Madness Crazy Pile". Its pretty good and big. I cut it in to four parts.


http://goo.gl/CJ0MZt

edburg

I tend to get them from amazon.

48 - 12x12 for 20-25 gbp, there not the thickest. Never had issue with them.

Mr Detail

edburg wrote: »

I tend to get them from amazon.

48 - 12x12 for 20-25 gbp, there not the thickest. Never had issue with them.

I wouldn't advise Amazon basics for paint, if they are the ones you have but any cloth at that price will not be ideal for paintwork. For all the reasons covered in the other threads.

I have hundreds of those cloths but not for paint to be honest.

edburg

Mr Detail wrote: »

I wouldn't advise Amazon basics for paint, if they are the ones you have but any cloth at that price will not be ideal for paintwork. For all the reasons covered in the other threads.

I have hundreds of those cloths but not for paint to be honest.

Could you point out reasons??

Just 'other threads' doesn't give me much to search forum for.


I have a few different ones like dodo juice buff daddy, meguirs,Halfords etc but for me I see no difference between them and using several amazon jobs.

Mr Detail

There was two threads only last week in detailing chat about Microfibres.

Because you say halfords or meguiars does not mean they were the type of cloths that were decent quality or should be used on paintwork, in particular halfords.

If your paint is in anyway soft and indeed even if it's hard I can guarantee you 100% you will have imparted marring & scratches using cheaper cloths on it. You may not notice it but I assure you they are there. It doesn't matter how careful you were.

There is a reason some cloths cost €10 or more and it's not because the reseller is making a load of money on them either.

The loop and short pile design on cheaper cloths is conducive to marking paintwork. Unfortunately that's just the reality.

edburg

Mr Detail wrote: »

There was two threads only last week in detailing chat about Microfibres.

Because you say halfords or meguiars does not mean they were the type of cloths that were decent quality or should be used on paintwork, in particular halfords.

If your paint is in anyway soft and indeed even if it's hard I can guarantee you 100% you will have imparted marring & scratches using cheaper cloths on it. You may not notice it but I assure you they are there. It doesn't matter how careful you were.

There is a reason some cloths cost €10 or more and it's not because the reseller is making a load of money on them either.

The loop and short pile design on cheaper cloths is conducive to marking paintwork. Unfortunately that's just the reality.

Cool, cheers for info.

Did say dodo buff daddy to

Curran

Dodo Juice Buff Daddy is the machine polisher?

Mr Detail

I purposely avoided the Dodo cloth as wasn't sure what you meant. I have used a dido cloth which was 500gsm and while not my favourite if you think that feels the same as an amazon's basics you must have been had or bought a fake as they are a total different animal.

Curran

Did you buy the Dodo Juice cloths on Amazon also edburg?
There are lots of companies selling towels and cloths claiming to be those of big name manufacturers, when they are in fact a much cheaper version, that looks almost identical. There is also a blue drying towel with red edges that is being claimed to be a Chemical Guys towel that Ive seen first hand of what it does to paintwork; and its not pretty!

edburg

Curran wrote: »

Dodo Juice Buff Daddy is the machine polisher?

Dodo towel micro wotsit buffing thingy towel.


Not saying it feels same there is obviously a huge difference in feel look. But I just feel the outcome is same looking to naked eye which is what I have at my disposal, I don't this professionaly and have no intention of doing so.

Also I understand what you saying above but as you say probably need a detailing microscope to see the main difference benefits.


No the dodo towel came from a detailing site in UK a few years ago, can't even remember which one. May have been polished bliss.

Curran

The thing is you'll have applied some product to your paintwork which will have hidden the damage you inflicted.
The damage wont be instantly noticeable but with regular use, you will be doing light damage everytime and this will ultimately lead to duller paintwork.
If you were to strip back the layers of products to bare paintwork, and inspected it, probably won't even need a powerful light, you'll be surprised at what you'll see...you definitely wont need a microscope, magnifing glass or any device, you'll have no issue seeing it.

Curran

Not directing this at anyone, but in the interest of comparison....for perhaps, anyone else looking in.

A quality microfiber versus an average microfiber.

Sorry for poor quality pictures; phone in poor light!

Difference in pile



Edge & Label versus edge-less and no label



Difference in pile



One side has reasonable pile & very short pile versus good pile on both sides



Folded in half, 3 times



Overall size



Another to consider is that there are applications where short pile is better. Buffing liquid sealants, like nano products, a short, but soft pile does a better job!
Microfiber is measured in grams per sq meter or gsm. A reasonably soft cloth will have upwards of 300gsm, the one photo'd is 500gsm....not sure of the average microfiber, one side is kinda soft, they other is pretty rough. The edges are quite a large factor too, and if you have cloths with them, its best to try fold the cloth so they are on the inside folds....but this becomes a pain in the backside, trying to ensure there isnt an edge showing, and also less useable surface area of the cloth.

So there ye go; people can make their own decisions and assumptions based on a bit of information provided; hope it helps!