Green Diesel in telescopic handler using public road.

jimbo256

thinking about getting a telescopic handler, haven’t enough work to keep it going, but I have a friend building a house 3km from myself. Using the telescopic handler between the 2 sites would be feasible.

One concern is the telescopic handler will run on green diesel ( 77 cent/ litre) but while on public roads green diesel shouldn’t used.

Is it enough to fill the tank with standard diesel (1.25 euro / litre) for the time it will be on public roads? I think traces of the dye in green diesel stays in the tank even if when dipped has standard diesel in it. Would road side dipping tell the customs officer that the tank currently has standard diesel in it but previously had green in it? If yes would this combined with my explanation to why there is traces of green diesel in the tank be acceptable to a customs officer.

I always see farmer’s tractors moving on public roads, what is the situation there.

Bullocks

jimbo256 wrote: »

thinking about getting a telescopic handler, haven’t enough work to keep it going, but I have a friend building a house 3km from myself. Using the telescopic handler between the 2 sites would be feasible.

One concern is the telescopic handler will run on green diesel ( 77 cent/ litre) but while on public roads green diesel shouldn’t used.

Is it enough to fill the tank with standard diesel (1.25 euro / litre) for the time it will be on public roads? I think traces of the dye in green diesel stays in the tank even if when dipped has standard diesel in it. Would road side dipping tell the customs officer that the tank currently has standard diesel in it but previously had green in it? If yes would this combined with my explanation to why there is traces of green diesel in the tank be acceptable to a customs officer.

I always see farmer’s tractors moving on public roads, what is the situation there.

I wouldn't be too worried about the diesel . I'd belt away with green .
Insurance that will cover both of ye is more what I'd be worried about

Night Nav

jimbo256 wrote: »

thinking about getting a telescopic handler, haven’t enough work to keep it going, but I have a friend building a house 3km from myself. Using the telescopic handler between the 2 sites would be feasible.

One concern is the telescopic handler will run on green diesel ( 77 cent/ litre) but while on public roads green diesel shouldn’t used.

Is it enough to fill the tank with standard diesel (1.25 euro / litre) for the time it will be on public roads? I think traces of the dye in green diesel stays in the tank even if when dipped has standard diesel in it. Would road side dipping tell the customs officer that the tank currently has standard diesel in it but previously had green in it? If yes would this combined with my explanation to why there is traces of green diesel in the tank be acceptable to a customs officer.

I always see farmer’s tractors moving on public roads, what is the situation there.

All farmers use green diesel on the road and as for you there will be no problem either even with customs

jimbo256

Thanks for the fast and good replies. I intend to get insurance and road tax. When you say worried about Insurance do you mean this is very important or its a pain and very costly to get insurance cover

Zr105

jimbo256 wrote: »

Thanks for the fast and good replies. I intend to get insurance and road tax. When you say worried about Insurance do you mean this is very important or its a pain and very costly to get insurance cover

Not really a major issue over here with green diesel at the likes of that, if it was in the uk they are an awful lot stricter on the White vs. red diesel use alright.

I'd agree with the other poster about the insurance, you would need to make sure that the insurance know that someone else is using it and that it is being used for site work as apposed to Agri work. If anything went wrong with the machine whilst working on your friends site and did major damage or caused a big accident it will be on your insurance, and if it's deemed that it happened due to a fault in the machine, because it is insured by you, it would more than likely be resting on your head

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[quyoks;94193156"]I wouldn't be too worried about the diesel . I'd belt away with green .
Insurance that will cover both of ye is more what I'd be worried about[/quote]

+1
How is the insurance and road worthiness of vehicle

joejobrien

Dont forget you or driver more than likely need a ticket for to comply with insurance

Bullocks

jimbo256 wrote: »

Thanks for the fast and good replies. I intend to get insurance and road tax. When you say worried about Insurance do you mean this is very important or its a pain and very costly to get insurance cover

There was a man killed here when his farm handler drove over him on a house he was building . I just think it's worth buying a right yoke that has a cert for working on the buildings and be sure that it's covered for both you and him if it's possible

I sold my teleporter because I hadn't enough work to justify keeping it legal and insured

jimbo256

Yes joejobrien I have CSCS Card & Safe pass.

Thanks Bullocks for sharing your knowledge. Yea there big machines , they can do lot of damage when things go wrong. Yes I agree about getting the right machine and proactive maintenance. I can see how it can be unfeasible to keep a machine especially with the way the construction industry is today.

When you say cert do you mean the cert that you get from insurance company after they send out there inspector to look over the machine, think it was every 6 months or a year, Or the cert that comes with the machine.

At the moment I trying to put a few costs on paper to see will it be feasible, maybe from your experience you can help me with a few assumptions I made, you can tell me if im dreaming.

I have estimated 2k for insurance, 500 for road tax. I have based my plan on getting something like the Jcb loadall 540 140, I know these machines fuel efficiency has improved over last 5 years, sadly I would most likely be buying a machine atleast 5 years old, maybe 10. I estimated average fuel consumption of 15 litres per hour. I also estimated 6k a year for serving/maintenance. And how long would you think I would get out of a set of tyres and how much wud you estimate for cost of 4 new construction tyres.

Bullocks

jimbo256 wrote: »

Yes joejobrien I have CSCS Card & Safe pass.

Thanks Bullocks for sharing your knowledge. Yea there big machines , they can do lot of damage when things go wrong. Yes I agree about getting the right machine and proactive maintenance. I can see how it can be unfeasible to keep a machine especially with the way the construction industry is today.

When you say cert do you mean the cert that you get from insurance company after they send out there inspector to look over the machine, think it was every 6 months or a year, Or the cert that comes with the machine.

At the moment I trying to put a few costs on paper to see will it be feasible, maybe from your experience you can help me with a few assumptions I made, you can tell me if im dreaming.

I have estimated 2k for insurance, 500 for road tax. I have based my plan on getting something like the Jcb loadall 540 140, I know these machines fuel efficiency has improved over last 5 years, sadly I would most likely be buying a machine atleast 5 years old, maybe 10. I estimated average fuel consumption of 15 litres per hour. I also estimated 6k a year for serving/maintenance. And how long would you think I would get out of a set of tyres and how much wud you estimate for cost of 4 new construction tyres.

I'm not alot of use with figures for you I'm afraid it's 3 years since I sold mine and I hadn't it properly road legal before that .