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internship problem

  • 07-02-2015 3:51pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45


    Hi been on internship in office and it's not working out. Have been doing some admin for the manager and now there is person leaving and will be expected to do their work along with what I have been doing already essentially run the place. I dont feel I will be able to do it by myself as I started just before xmas. I am getting stressed out about it. Was told by boss that if I perform good there might be a job there but I couldn't be sure of it either. So that's seems to me like I'm not performaning good enough now wen he said if I perform good in the future. Is that what that means?
    I think I will leave.
    Advice would be welcome.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Idjit


    moon55 wrote: »
    Hi been on internship in office and it's not working out. Have been doing some admin for the manager and now there is person leaving and will be expected to do their work along with what I have been doing already essentially run the place. I dont feel I will be able to do it by myself as I started just before xmas. I am getting stressed out about it. Was told by boss that if I perform good there might be a job there but I couldn't be sure of it either. So that's seems to me like I'm not performaning good enough now wen he said if I perform good in the future. Is that what that means?
    I think I will leave.
    Advice would be welcome.

    If it's a Jobbridge internship, I'd suggest discussing it with your local welfare office maybe because if I'm not mistaken, you're supposed to have someone with you training you rather than being left to your own devices to run things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭2Mad2BeMad


    You're suppose to have someone with you at all times while on the job bridge to learn.

    But its a catch 22, if the boss of the company sees you preforming well on you're own, he might hire you.
    On the other hand if you complain no one is helping you, you won't get a job if their is one on offer in the future.

    Not only that, he said you "might get a job here" if you preform well

    So you can take that as you like, but I always think of it this way, if someone says that to me, its like their only saying it so I will work my arse off for them to get no job at the end
    but then again it might pay of and they were telling the truth.

    If I was you, I would bluff him, you have to do this now a days on an internship

    I was on an internship
    for 4 months , they kept hinting I might get a job at the end.
    I got fed up as it was costing me more to do the internship between travelling and getting lunchs I decided one day (about 4 months into it) I told my boss I have an interview
    he let me go to it no problem he has too.
    I basically stayed at home all day doing nothing, went in the next day, told him it went great and I have a good opportunity of getting it the person who interviewed me, I also gave you're name and number as a reference.

    He told me he hopes I get it.

    Less then one hour later (I swear to god) He called me into his office and offered me a job their.

    I bluffed all of that, if the bluff fails and you don't get offered one take it they are not looking to hire or hire you. Then go to the social about no one supervising you unless you want the full 9months experience of course.

    For myself I could not afford to do the 9months, its far to long, even 6 months is a bloody stretch on little pay.
    But something good came out of it for me, and hopefully will for you too.

    Best of luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 moon55


    Don't think I could that 2bemad thank u for an answer


    I just feel like I am not good enough as boss said if your performance improves and that they are just using me because they don't have to pay me but they would prefer someone better but ill just do


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭berger89


    Hate to say it, but seems like you're being used, especially if you're not being paid, as are many people on internships and job bridge schemes.
    "oh we MIGHT hire you IF you're good enough". you might be doing fan-fcuking-tastic at the mo but they won't tell you and they might string you along until they get what they want out of you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Moon55,
    See all this 'maybe a job at the end'? You have to assume this is all lies because every employer who applies an intern says this. Sure some do hire the intern if things work out. But it's basic psychology.
    If an employer was to flat out tell a person that there will be no paying job at the end. Be it revealing this in the interview or during the placement, most people wouldn't accept the position or pack it in upon hearing it. Can't blame them too.

    In my opinion you are getting used. You'll take on this other work-load for a bit while the company interviews to replace that position. Then you'll go back to your internship duties, only to get told "sorry we don't have the budget to hire you right now, apply back in 6 months" later down the line.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    In what way are you "running the place" now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭thehouses


    If it's scambridge then this is another example of a genuine job that is being displaced because of fine gael/labour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    IMO, You should hang on in there. The 'running the place' comment implies that your work actually makes a difference to the company. If you were not performing well, why would they trust you with extra work?

    Stay positive.
    In terms of the workload, Just do what you can. In the meantime you're adding experience to the CV, which should be fired off to recruiters on a daily basis.

    B.A makes a valid point and could be right, however, this new person could also be you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 moon55


    In what way are you "running the place" now?

    Not really running it at moment but that is what I will be expected to do.
    I just don't think I Will be able for the workload. I have spent the whole weekend worrying about it. I didn't even get up yesterday I was that worried. So stressed. I just don't think I will able for it even though so members of my family are saying to stick it out and wait until to see if I can get another internship or job before leaving.
    I really am thinking of leaving.
    Thank s for the advice.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    If you stay, what's the worst thing that could happen?

    There's a chance you might not be able for it and fail. There's also a chance you may be very able for it, and might get a job out of it. Either way, you will almost certainly learn and grow as a result of the experience.

    On the other hand, if you just leave you're failing by default, and basically choosing the worst case outcome. If you walk away, what will you have to show for the work and effort you have put in to date? Have you something else better lined up to leave for?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    But you don't know yet if you'll be able for it. It seems foolish to give up without trying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 moon55


    I don't have anything else lined up. I just hate the thought of being just basically left there by myself and then if something happens and I don't know how to deal with it. I'm just freaking out about it. Afraid I just won't b able for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton


    Forget about the imaginary job with your host company for a minute. Constantly focusing on what's not happening is just going to drain you of the energy you should be directing at what could be, finding a real job. I went through the same thing during my internship op and after considering the options, I took some time out (a whole day) to refocus by turning my thoughts toward the possibilities that might be out there, for ME. I sat down with my CV and gave it a good polish, I spent the day contacting every agency in the city and talking with consultants, I got feedback and advice which restored my self esteem and I went back to work in a more positive frame of mind. I stopped worrying about the imaginary job and felt much better all round.
    Continue reminding yourself that it's you you're doing this for, all this is for your benefit and no one elses. If a job is offered by your host at the end of it all good and well, but don't become so reliant on it that it hinders all other opportunities. Those you will have to make for yourself and it's time to get moving. Get creative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 moon55


    Now it turns out she not leaving which is what I wanted but I have to go back to my old duties now in which I will just be required to do more duties then what I have been doing. And I'm really starting to doubt I'll be able to do this so I think I will leave.
    I dont think this job suits me there is always something going wrong or something I can't do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    So you get the outcome you wanted but still want to quit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 moon55


    Ya I can't handle the new duties I don't think. I don't think person who training me trusts me to do it right myself. I'm not trusted. But then he said few days ago he wouldn't like to loose me. So im getting mixed messages. I just feel like I'm kinda too stupid for the job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    moon55 wrote: »
    Ya I can't handle the new duties I don't think. I don't think person who training me trusts me to do it right myself. I'm not trusted. But then he said few days ago he wouldn't like to loose me. So im getting mixed messages. I just feel like I'm kinda too stupid for the job.

    :confused: This contradicts your 'running the place' comment. One minute you have important work to carry out, the next, you're not trusted.

    Which is it?

    How old are you, is this your first job?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    You're there on an internship and should have a mentor.
    You're still learning the ropes and believe me, things will go wrong from time to time.
    It happens to us all even with experience. If you you can't do something ,just ask, if you're unsure about something, ask. That's how we all learn.

    Take a read of Ruyard Kiplings poem "if"... and" be a man http://www.everypoet.com/archive/poetry/Rudyard_Kipling/kipling_if.htm

    It sums up everything you're saying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 moon55


    T-K-O wrote: »
    :confused: This contradicts your 'running the place' comment. One minute you have important work to carry out, the next, you're not trusted.

    Which is it?

    How old are you, is this your first job?[/quote

    Well the other girl is staying so I won't have to Run the place but go back to what I was doing with account s which will have more duties now which I dont think I will be able to do and person training me does not seem to trust me to do even top management will need me to be able to do soon by myself. Its like I have not developed in this job like I should have more duties but think I am not trusted to do them and am not able.
    I am late thirties not my first Job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭maringo


    As Tatranska says, you are an Intern and should have a mentor to help you learn the ropes. Keep asking if you are not sure how to do something - after all you are there as an Intern to learn and all new jobs present challenges. Expect to make some mistakes while you are learning and getting experience in the role. Sounds like you are being too hard on yourself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 moon55


    maringo wrote: »
    As Tatranska says, you are an Intern and should have a mentor to help you learn the ropes. Keep asking if you are not sure how to do something - after all you are there as an Intern to learn and all new jobs present challenges. Expect to make some mistakes while you are learning and getting experience in the role. Sounds like you are being too hard on yourself.

    But see I can't. Make mistake if I enter stuff on system DAT wat I'm afraid of. I can't make mistakes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    moon55 wrote: »
    But see I can't. Make mistake if I enter stuff on system DAT wat I'm afraid of. I can't make mistakes.

    Nonsense, is this accountancy work, What system are you using?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,166 ✭✭✭Tasden


    moon55 wrote: »
    But see I can't. Make mistake if I enter stuff on system DAT wat I'm afraid of. I can't make mistakes.

    If they weren't prepared for mistakes to be made then they wouldn't /shouldn't have taken on an intern. Simple as. You're there to learn and gain experience, not to do a job perfectly, if they expect you to do a job perfectly without instruction or assistance they should be paying you a proper wage. They're not. You're there to learn so who gives a **** if you make mistakes while doing so. Seriously, just have confidence in yourself, if you make mistakes then it's a lesson learned, if they give you **** then complain that they're not supporting you properly. Don't give up without getting the most from it first, so just give it your best shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 moon55


    Tasden wrote: »
    If they weren't prepared for mistakes to be made then they wouldn't /shouldn't have taken on an intern. Simple as. You're there to learn and gain experience, not to do a job perfectly, if they expect you to do a job perfectly without instruction or assistance they should be paying you a proper wage. They're not. You're there to learn so who gives a **** if you make mistakes while doing so. Seriously, just have confidence in yourself, if you make mistakes then it's a lesson learned, if they give you **** then complain that they're not supporting you properly. Don't give up without getting the most from it first, so just give it your best shot.

    But its like if I make mistake its like why did u do that and get given out to and then I feel like crap and stupid


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,166 ✭✭✭Tasden


    moon55 wrote: »
    But its like if I make mistake its like why did u do that and get given out to and then I feel like crap and stupid

    And you explain that you weren't given sufficient training/instruction, or that you're still learning and these things happen. It's gonna happen in any job, nobody walks into a job and does everything perfect from the get go. You learn as you go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 moon55


    Well I was looking at a person doing it but not left do it much myself.
    I think it better maybe to leave in case I do some damage something wrong


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,166 ✭✭✭Tasden


    moon55 wrote: »
    Well I was looking at a person doing it but not left do it much myself.
    I think it better maybe to leave in case I do some damage something wrong

    It's your decision but the same thing will happen anywhere. The best way to learn is by doing it yourself and sometimes that involves making mistakes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 moon55


    Tasden wrote: »
    It's your decision but the same thing will happen anywhere. The best way to learn is by doing it yourself and sometimes that involves making mistakes.

    I know but I don't think person training me trusts me to do myself and I'm having a lot of doubt's myself as well when its explained to me it seems hard to understand and I don't think I get it all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    You're in a cycle.

    The person does not trust you because you may make a mistake. That's what a trainer does - they train and supervise you.

    They ask you why you made the mistake to find out what you don't know or to assess your skills. Be honest - but polite! "I thought that's how it was done. Sorry. Can you go over it with me again?"

    You're taking things very emotionally and are crumbling at the signs of criticism. This affects your confidence and means you are more likely to make a mistake.

    You also appear to be offended at the fact you're "not trusted" yet you claim you're being given too much hard work to do.

    And you're believing the bad about yourself instead of trying better.

    So - calm down.

    See where you have made mistakes

    Don't make them again.

    Repeat with each task.


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