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Eastenders [News, Spoilers and Discussion - from Feb 2015]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭ShazGV


    ^ Didn't Cindy know Ian lied initially about his whereabouts the night Lucy died too? I think it was that she knew he wasn't where he said he was, or something along those lines.

    That's a good theory, definitely think now it was one of the Beales. I had thought way back last summer that it may be Lola but she seems like a long shot now. Looking forward to the live episodes for sure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 835 ✭✭✭dogcat


    Good points there for Cindy, however I would doubt it was Bobby as for starters I think Lucy would have a lot more strength than Bobby.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭emanresu esrever


    dogcat wrote: »
    Good points there for Cindy, however I would doubt it was Bobby as for starters I think Lucy would have a lot more strength than Bobby.


    yeah, tough as nails our Lucy.............................................



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭emanresu esrever


    ShazGV wrote: »
    ^ Didn't Cindy know Ian lied initially about his whereabouts the night Lucy died too? I think it was that she knew he wasn't where he said he was, or something along those lines.

    That's a good theory, definitely think now it was one of the Beales. I had thought way back last summer that it may be Lola but she seems like a long shot now. Looking forward to the live episodes for sure.


    Her questioning Ian's alibi may have been just that, it may not have been her questioning whether he may be killing her. Her father just lied to the police, she needed to know why. She may have known he wasnt responsiblre for the killing but what was he covering?

    There has been hundreds of red herrings thrown out over the last ten months but I don't think many could be annoyed if this is the only one regarding

    I also think Peters departure would tie in well with this . How could he stick around knowing all the lies involved and having to face his sister who murdered his other sister every day.

    I think Lauren will have an abortion and Peter will break it up with her over the next few days. This will cut him loose of all ties.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Wasn't Jane in Cardiff?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭emanresu esrever


    Wasn't Jane in Cardiff?

    no, she came back that night. Think she was staying at Maasoods, could be wrong there? But she was definitely ABOUT


  • Registered Users Posts: 989 ✭✭✭piperh


    Any online links?

    I've no idea how to do them off my phone sorry. It's the bbc red button.

    It's showing them watching clips of allsorts of things including Lou Beale and Dot walking in on Jane pole dancing for Ian :-)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,929 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    ShazGV wrote: »

    That's a good theory, definitely think now it was one of the Beales. I had thought way back last summer that it may be Lola but she seems like a long shot now. Looking forward to the live episodes for sure.

    It's definitely one of the Beales, in my opinion. Lauren recognised the phone number straight away. She would know their home number off the top of her head. Her reaction to Peter and Ian in the pub points to the Beales too. She may not know exactly which one of them it was but I'll eat my hat if it's not a Beale.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭ShazGV


    Her questioning Ian's alibi may have been just that, it may not have been her questioning whether he may be killing her. Her father just lied to the police, she needed to know why. She may have known he wasnt responsiblre for the killing but what was he covering?

    There has been hundreds of red herrings thrown out over the last ten months but I don't think many could be annoyed if this is the only one regarding

    I also think Peters departure would tie in well with this . How could he stick around knowing all the lies involved and having to face his sister who murdered his other sister every day.

    I think Lauren will have an abortion and Peter will break it up with her over the next few days. This will cut him loose of all ties.

    I was thinking more along the lines of her trying to shift blame/suspicion (which would tie in with your theory of Cindy being the murderer) but I don't think she actually talked about Ian's false alibi with anyone apart from Ian so I've just realised that's probably not the right track!


    Also, Black Menorca I believe those 30th Anniversary videos are on the BBC iPlayer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭emanresu esrever


    anyone get a screen capture on Staceys phone when she went to dial the number just there?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭emanresu esrever


    or peters number


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭emanresu esrever


    and there is the jane/maasod interaction............ masood helped jane cover up.......


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    How old is Lauren now, bit old to still be blaming everything on her parents marriage surely


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,387 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Dot/Nick Cotton story line almost parallels Sid Viscous/Anne Beverley. Sid's mother gave him a fatal dose of heroin that ultimately killed him. Dot gave Nick heroin that ultimately killed too. Plus Sid was a pretty bad man himself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭ShazGV


    June Brown is such a wonderful actress. And at (almost) 88!


  • Registered Users Posts: 85,463 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Dot/Nick Cotton story line almost parallels Sid Viscous/Anne Beverley. Sid's mother gave him a fatal dose of heroin that ultimately killed him. Dot gave Nick heroin that ultimately killed too. Plus Sid was a pretty bad man himself.



    I found Nick's death pretty lame tbh, he was such an iconic character he deserved a better exit imo


    Now how can Dot bury Nick now as he is already declared dead and buried previously?


  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭morebabies


    OK, i have driven myself mad thinking of theories behind Lucy so I have decided to pick someone and stick by it now.

    If I had 4 suspects they would be Denise, Jane, Bobby and Cindy but I am going to choose the latter two as my choices. Both are strong odds so worth a fiver each.

    So my theory is Jane helped cover up a row between Cindy (probably) but maybe Bobby which led to Lucy's eventual death.

    I think the row centred around the cocaine, perhaps hidden in the jewelry box with Cindy threathening to expose Lucy. I think there was a row and a catfight and Lucy was hit by the jewelry box knocking her out, or at least dazing her. Perhaps this led to an aneurysm and her dazily leaving the house and finding herself on the common? It would be ironic if Emma suffered an aneurysm trying to solve the murder also.

    Masood and/or Denise may also have been involved in clearing the body from the scene. If she did die at Beales.

    I think the key is Jane covering up for Lauren by stating she saw her out the window at a certain time to Emma. I think it clicked with Emma that Jane could not have been there as on the CCTV her car was missing at the time she claimed. "Hence...............it doesn't add up" SOC (scene of crime....

    i have more on this and i'll edit it accordingly but i am convincing myself by the minute.

    the music box under the tree was a plant by Emma to test reactions by the suspects she had narrowed it down to.

    i think she called jane that night with the "i know you killed lucy" line believing it to be her but jane brought cindy along to explain the story. "its still murder" perhaps testifying to the fact that Cindy is so young and/or it was not intended. (although then you are getting into premeditated zone) Note that Emma had no problem meeting the killer and seemed to empathise with them giving them a chance to explain and battling with her conscience whether to ship them in to the police. "i cannot keep THE secret"............ ie the cover up by Jane / Cindy (bobby). if it was someone like Jay, Ben, Billy, Lee, the Crokers, Denise, Whitney, even Max or any other suspect outside the Beale family, i think she would struggle to meet them and give them an opportunity to explain themselves.

    jane hid items in the floorboards and has spent a lot of time with cindy, most notably convincing Alfie to get ian out of the house as "he would be doing her and Cindy a favour" the night if the stag.

    Cindy has kept a very low profile since the night compared to others and has never shown any strong indications you can say she is definitely innocent, ie no finger pointing miss marple stuff. yet she is always lurking about.

    Also, if it is Cindy, Ian won't shop her into the police. She is a kid and there is a baby involved. if it was jane, i couldnt see him forgiving her. if it was any of the brannings/mitchells straight to jail, likewise denise, the crokers, lee, whitney etc.

    i think for utmost drama and shock and a lasting legacy, ian's own daughter killing her sister would be the best option. I feel they have big plans for Cindy the character and giving her this platform and background will push her onto a new level.


    10/1................... great price if you ask me.

    Very plausible actually, how long have you been working on this theory Sherlock?


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    "I've never given anyone a facial before." ~Ian Beale *shudders forever*


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    Why would Stacy not want to know who killed Lucy and have him or her walk around the square really ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 85,463 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Why would Stacy not want to know who killed Lucy and have him or her walk around the square really ?



    Stacey is a killer herself :p


    Stacey and Lucy weren't close or even mates


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭emanresu esrever


    morebabies wrote: »
    Very plausible actually, how long have you been working on this theory Sherlock?

    well tbh, i havent put everything together like that until today. obviously bits and pieces floating around my head but it does seem like a good theory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭emanresu esrever


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I found Nick's death pretty lame tbh, he was such an iconic character he deserved a better exit imo


    Now how can Dot bury Nick now as he is already declared dead and buried previously?

    ah, i think its very apt. it was subtle and mirrors the very first episode when the dead body of reg cox who nick murdered was found in that very residence 30 years ago.
    Also, there has been far too much panto in nicks life so a self harmed death is justifiable and it intricates well with Dot's constant mothering of him and him emotionally blackmailing her all his life.
    he isnt dead yet by the way, i expect a strong episode with him and dot talking tomorrow before he dies.

    oh, and the police have copped on he is still alive already, haven't they.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A real ife PI think's Ben did it

    https://uk.celebrity.yahoo.com/gossip/omg/eastenders--spoilers--who-killed-lucy-beale---real-life-private-investigator-reckons-ben-mitchell-did-it-144644272.html

    which begs the question are you going to put a bet on who did it just for fun ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    I'm still fuzzy on how Jay came into possession of Lucy's wallet, why Ben buried it in Patrick's plot and how Denise and Ian accepted their story so readily...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭emanresu esrever


    my prediction, dot buys nick the heroin that kills him (overdose) and she blames herself and tries to hand herself in to the police. apparently it is a low key emotional death with just the two of them and they have a proper chat.


    one prediction right from a few days ago anyway!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,675 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »

    She is not, 100% sure of it. She wouldn't just return for a 3 or 4 month contract and leave Waterloo Road for such a short contract.


  • Registered Users Posts: 85,463 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    She is not, 100% sure of it. She wouldn't just return for a 3 or 4 month contract and leave Waterloo Road for such a short contract.



    I thought Waterloo Road was cancelled


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭emanresu esrever




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭emanresu esrever


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »

    basically what i said, but with the idea that it was cindy who actually killed her.
    and jane has been covering up for her.

    i dont get an article though!

    i think for the future cindy being the killer would have far more impact.


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