Eastenders [News, Spoilers and Discussion - from Feb 2015]

eternal

Zippie84 wrote: »

So... am I the only one who isn't sick of the Carters?

Who could get sick of Danny Dyer.

emanresu esrever

kudos to me for predicting that!!

but kudos to EE also for that plot twist! maybe she will testify against him??

aidanleahy

After hearing that Matt di Angelo (the actor who plays Dean) has signed on for another year, I'm really getting quite worried that Dean is going to get off scot-free, and that the baby Linda is pregnant with belongs to him. If Eastenders take the plot in this direction, then the programme will be darker than ever.

wdmfapq4zs83hv

So do you think Dean raped Shabnam too?

emanresu esrever

Zippie84 wrote: »

oooh there's a relative of Sinead's. Script writers must have read this thread...

doubt it, i dont think Corrie producers delve into the far superior EE storylines!

Zippie84

emanresu esrever wrote: »

kudos to me for predicting that!!

but kudos to EE also for that plot twist! maybe she will testify against him??

Call me stupid, but why would she be testifying against him - what did I miss?

JP Liz V1

Liam Better Gorge wrote: »

So do you think Dean raped Shabnam too?

Sounded more like he was drunk and don't remember it

Frigga_92

Zippie84 wrote: »

So... am I the only one who isn't sick of the Carters?

I LOVE THEM ALL! Not mad about Lee but that's because he hasn't had as much screen time as the rest of them.

wdmfapq4zs83hv

Zippie84 wrote: »

Call me stupid, but why would she be testifying against him - what did I miss?

I think the question is did he rape her too... even though shes saying it was a one night stand

Galwayguy35

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Apart from the Undertaker most of them are reasonably well established characters.

Galwayguy35

26sdrawkcab wrote: »

I LOVE THEM ALL! Not mad about Lee but that's because he hasn't had as much screen time as the rest of them.

Thank god he isn't on much, he's a total knob.

I like Mick though, tough when he has to be but a good family man as well.

JP Liz V1

I was looking forward to Mick singing karaoke

casio4

does Shabnam drink alcohol? she said Dean was a one night stand in the toilet of a club and he was very drunk, so was she sober when she lost her virginity with a lad she knew was plastered drunk? or was she just as drunk?

drugstore cowboy

casio4 wrote: »

does Shabnam drink alcohol? she said Dean was a one night stand in the toilet of a club and he was very drunk, so was she sober when she lost her virginity with a lad she knew was plastered drunk? or was she just as drunk?

Shabs was wild when she first hit the square.

Zippie84

casio4 wrote: »

does Shabnam drink alcohol? she said Dean was a one night stand in the toilet of a club and he was very drunk, so was she sober when she lost her virginity with a lad she knew was plastered drunk? or was she just as drunk?

Don't know if she drinks now, but apparently she used to go out drinking...

JP Liz V1

casio4 wrote: »

does Shabnam drink alcohol? she said Dean was a one night stand in the toilet of a club and he was very drunk, so was she sober when she lost her virginity with a lad she knew was plastered drunk? or was she just as drunk?

She said she used to sneak out with Carly and Dawn to clubs and drink

Zippie84

Interview with Rakhee Thakrar who plays Shabnam about the Dean and Shabnam twist: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/interviews/a625591/eastenders-star-rakhee-thakrar-shabnam-and-dean-twist-is-great.html#~p2ToYr9clChEqQ

piperh

Well considering Dean spiked Staceys drink the past it's not inconceivable to think he spiked Shabnams?

JP Liz V1

I don't think I ever remember the old Shabham in any scene with Dean, wasn't she with Mickey Miller and him after Chelesa

wdmfapq4zs83hv

piperh wrote: »

Well considering Dean spiked Staceys drink the past it's not inconceivable to think he spiked Shabnams?

Why was she with him if he spiked her drink...?

Zippie84

Old Shabnam off for some fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hf_BjfMT1Y

3 girls and not a fella between them though...

piperh

piperh wrote: »

Well considering Dean spiked Staceys drink the past it's not inconceivable to think he spiked Shabnams?

Totally possible he is a serial rapist now

piperh

Liam Better Gorge wrote: »

Why was she with him if he spiked her drink...?

During his first stint he spiked her drink and tried to blame Bradley. It might also explain why she struggled to believe he had changed in the beginning and was convinced by Linda so easily.

No different really to Denise and Patrick forgiving him for beating Patrick up.

Zippie84

here's the scenes of Dean spiking Stacey's drink years back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTTvXp2Qq0A

and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQJbhu_V2PQ

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

piperh wrote: »

During his first stint he spiked her drink and tried to blame Bradley. It might also explain why she struggled to believe he had changed in the beginning and was convinced by Linda so easily.

No different really to Denise and Patrick forgiving him for beating Patrick up.

He didn't beat Patrick up. Some random guy did it and Dean and Chelsea framed Sean Slater.

piperh

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

He didn't beat Patrick up. Some random guy did it and Dean and Chelsea framed Sean Slater.

Ahh right sorry old memory playing tricks. ;-) knew he was involved somehow.

The full schedule follows below:

Monday, February 16

10.45pm: The Graham Norton Show EastEnders Special

Tuesday, February 17

7.30pm: EastEnders (30-minute episode - includes live elements)

Wednesday, February 18

8.00pm: EastEnders (30-minute episode - includes live elements)

Thursday, February 19 - Lucy Beale's killer revealed tonight

7.30pm: EastEnders (Hour-long episode - includes live elements)

9.30pm: EastEnders (30-minute Lucy Beale flashback episode - includes live elements)

Friday, February 20

8.00pm: EastEnders (Full 30-minute live episode)

8.30pm: EastEnders: Backstage Live (with a live switchover to BBC Three at 9pm)

KKkitty

I think Shabnam met Dean on a night out and he spiked her drink. Maybe through talking about it to Stacey Shabnam comes to the conclusion that Dean raped her too.

casio4

KKkitty wrote: »

I think Shabnam met Dean on a night out and he spiked her drink. Maybe through talking about it to Stacey Shabnam comes to the conclusion that Dean raped her too.

seems that way because when Tamwar said he was arrested for a sexual assault she straight away said rape

deise08

Am I the only one looking at those clips thinking, what the??? I don't remember any of that?

starlit

I can't really think back that far could be a link in the storyline for dean/linda. I was totally shocked when she said Dean was the dad. Its hard to know how this storyline run with him.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Just caught up on this week's episodes. I don't think there was supposed to be any implication that Dean raped Shabnam too. She seems to remember it all clearly and says he was so drunk he doesn't even remember it. I think it's just a way to tie him into someone else's story line. Once the rape stuff dies down he doesn't have a lot going on so I assume at some point he'll find out about the baby too.

dogcat

Good thing I'm back from my holiday on the 19th!

Lisha

How long ago was Shabnam pregnant by Dean?

Has she been in eastenders since she gave away her baby?

Zippie84

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Just caught up on this week's episodes. I don't think there was supposed to be any implication that Dean raped Shabnam too. She seems to remember it all clearly and says he was so drunk he doesn't even remember it. I think it's just a way to tie him into someone else's story line. Once the rape stuff dies down he doesn't have a lot going on so I assume at some point he'll find out about the baby too.

I agree with that. I know she had a bit of a reaction on hearing of Dean arrested for serious sexual assault and asked if that meant rape, but think that would be a normal reaction on hearing that about someone who fathered your child.

Zippie84

Lisha wrote: »

How long ago was Shabnam pregnant by Dean?

Has she been in eastenders since she gave away her baby?

She was in Eastenders (original actress) July 2007 to October 2008, so not all that long.

Shabnam returned January 2014 with Rakhee Thakrar playing her.

Ironically first time round, Zahra Ahmadi apparently decided to leave because she wasn't being given 'meaty enough storylines'.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Zippie84 wrote: »

She was in Eastenders (original actress) July 2007 to October 2008, so not all that long.

Shabnam returned January 2014 with Rakhee Thakrar playing her.

Ironically first time round, Zahra Ahmadi apparently decided to leave because she wasn't being given 'meaty enough storylines'.

So... the kid would be about 7 or 8 now?

Zippie84

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

So... the kid would be about 7 or 8 now?

yep, seems so

KKkitty

casio4 wrote: »

seems that way because when Tamwar said he was arrested for a sexual assault she straight away said rape

It could well pan out like that. She could have blocked some of the memories of that night and through talking about it things come flooding back.

emanresu esrever

doovdela wrote: »

I can't really think back that far could be a link in the storyline for dean/linda. I was totally shocked when she said Dean was the dad. Its hard to know how this storyline run with him.

Ah, i saw it coming when Tamwar walked in just after Shabnam brought up going out partying with Carly Wicks. I said it on the thread! But it was a great twist. I would b interested in looking back at Shabnams exit scenes to see if it is possible this story has merits. IE was Dean around at the time, was there any interaction or evidence of Shabnam knowing she was pregnant with his baby etc. Of course this plot only arose in last few months but it would be a pity if the story had no merits, if you get me.

She is an excellent actress also and Stacy is great now that she is away from Alfie and Kat.

emanresu esrever

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Just caught up on this week's episodes. I don't think there was supposed to be any implication that Dean raped Shabnam too. She seems to remember it all clearly and says he was so drunk he doesn't even remember it. I think it's just a way to tie him into someone else's story line. Once the rape stuff dies down he doesn't have a lot going on so I assume at some point he'll find out about the baby too.

But that isn't the point. If Shabnam can give evidence that Dean has a sexual past that he can have sex without recalling his actions it would definitely stand against him in Court. In front of a court this would have serious character implications . Such evidence would put doubts in the minds of the Jury as to his sexual intentions etc.

We know they aren't going down the court route with this story though.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

emanresu esrever wrote: »

But that isn't the point. If Shabnam can give evidence that Dean has a sexual past that he can have sex without recalling his actions it would definitely stand against him in Court. In front of a court this would have serious character implications . Such evidence would put doubts in the minds of the Jury as to his sexual intentions etc.

I don't think so. If Shabnam went to court and said she had sex with Dean and he was so drunk he didn't remember it his lawyer could easily twist it and say if he was too drunk to remember it he could have been too drunk to give consent to it happening at all. Stacey telling them that he spiked her drink years ago would have far more impact on it, I think. But as you say it's not going to court and that's why I don't think what happened between Dean and Shabnam is of any relevance to the Dean/Linda story.

emanresu esrever

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I don't think so. If Shabnam went to court and said she had sex with Dean and he was so drunk he didn't remember it his lawyer could easily twist it and say if he was too drunk to remember it he could have been too drunk to give consent to it happening at all. Stacey telling them that he spiked her drink years ago would have far more impact on it, I think. But as you say it's not going to court and that's why I don't think what happened between Dean and Shabnam is of any relevance to the Dean/Linda story.

I am talking about The "Linda Rape" Trial. (I know, there isn't going to be one, but if there were)
Shabnam could easily be used as a key witness to give character evidence against Dean. He obviously has sexual issues and I think Lola will be brought into it now.
Shabnam could stand up in court and give evidence that Dean has, in the past, had sexual exploits which he was out of control, in mind. His "mens rea" would then be brought into question and the jury's doubts about his intention with Linda would be also questioned.
Rape trials often involve past sexual partners of accused giving evidence .
I know this Shabnam baby story is so complicated that this wont happen but I am just saying it is a possibility.

Of course Stacey's spike incident would be another powerful piece of evidence but that never got revealed, didn't it not?? Otherwise why hasn't she evn mentioned this to Linda!

Tasden

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I don't think so. If Shabnam went to court and said she had sex with Dean and he was so drunk he didn't remember it his lawyer could easily twist it and say if he was too drunk to remember it he could have been too drunk to give consent to it happening at all. Stacey telling them that he spiked her drink years ago would have far more impact on it, I think. But as you say it's not going to court and that's why I don't think what happened between Dean and Shabnam is of any relevance to the Dean/Linda story.

If Linda's baby is deans then that baby will be shabnam's baby's half sibling.

starlit

I think it turns out to be Mick's based on scan date. Its a soap anything could happen! They need a storyline built up after the Lucy reveal. Two more weeks to go...

emanresu esrever

Tasden wrote: »

If Linda's baby is deans then that baby will be shabnam's baby's half sibling.

if Shabnam's 8 year old is still a "baby", that will be a massive story in itself!

Tasden

doovdela wrote: »

I think it turns out to be Mick's based on scan date. Its a soap anything could happen! They need a storyline built up after the Lucy reveal. Two more weeks to go...

See I thought that too because of how relieved she seemed at the scan but then after that (at police interview?) she said that they weren't sure who the dad was. I originally thought the whole mick and dean brother story would come out as a result of dna testing etc when baby was born.

Tasden

emanresu esrever wrote: »

if Shabnam's 8 year old is still a "baby", that will be a massive story in itself!

I still refer to my 7 year old as a baby but yeah i realised that after i posted but was too lazy to edit

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Tasden wrote: »

See I thought that too because of how relieved she seemed at the scan but then after that (at police interview?) she said that they weren't sure who the dad was. I originally thought the whole mick and dean brother story would come out as a result of dna testing etc when baby was born.

Oooh, that would have been good.

I'm watching Eastenders 30 Years of Cliffhangers & I miss Christian so much watching him now he brought a lot of fun to the show

fr336

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm watching Eastenders 30 Years of Cliffhangers & I miss Christian so much watching him now he brought a lot of fun to the show

Ooh where was this on?