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alternative to iodine spray

  • 31-01-2015 5:15pm
    #1
    Count Mondego
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    Lads,

    I remember this being discussed previously. Some antibacterial spray that you can spray the new born calf navel with instead of iodine. Had a cow lick the navel off a calf last yr and it cost me 70 quid.


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  • #2
    greysides
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    CM, have you checked your stocks trace element levels at some point...(just a theory of mine).. it could well be a quirk of the cow.

    A cetrimide (Savlon) spray has been suggested, I believe.

    Iodine as well as being anti-bacterial is also astringent, it dries the navel up; cetrimide will just be anti-bacterial.

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  • #3
    Bullocks
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    greysides wrote: »
    CM, have you checked your stocks trace element levels at some point...(just a theory of mine).. it could well be a quirk of the cow.

    A cetrimide (Savlon) spray has been suggested, I believe.

    Iodine as well as being anti-bacterial is also astringent, it dries the navel up; cetrimide will just be anti-bacterial.

    Would the spray on stocholm tar be any good ?


  • #4
    greysides
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    Bullocks wrote: »
    Would the spray on stocholm tar be any good ?

    Don't know. Would want to be sure wasn't sealing in dirt at least.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • #5
    Count Mondego
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    greysides wrote: »
    CM, have you checked your stocks trace element levels at some point...(just a theory of mine).. it could well be a quirk of the cow.

    A cetrimide (Savlon) spray has been suggested, I believe.

    Iodine as well as being anti-bacterial is also astringent, it dries the navel up; cetrimide will just be anti-bacterial.

    Thanks Greysides,

    Try and give plenty mineral, dust it on the silage and has added iodine, but ya never know if they all get it. Give a bolus around march/April to aid fertility. This cow could have just been a bit vigorous with the licking. The alternative would want to be as good as iodine or I'd leave it.


  • #6
    Kovu
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    We use bluestone here, always have. No issues with navels so far.


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  • #7
    greysides
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    Kovu wrote: »
    We use bluestone here, always have. No issues with navels so far.


    Solutions or crystals?

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    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

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  • #8
    Kovu
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    greysides wrote: »
    Solutions or crystals?

    Solution made up each time. I don't think the calf would be too happy with his navel dipped in crystals......:P


  • #9
    Base price
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    We used to use gentian violet or iodine which ever was on hand.
    Local chemist used to have a big drum of it and would fill a bottle for you.


  • #10
    MFdaveIreland
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    Alamycin

    http://www.norbrook.com/products/alamycin-aerosol-3.58-w-w-cutaneous-spray-solution


  • #11
    mf2909
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭mf2909


    Hi
    I ue
    se iodine 10% and methelyated spirits mixes. Made up each time half n half.Works mighty. No issues with navels.


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  • #12
    Cavanjack
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    Mix a bit of dettol and water here and dip the navel in. Never any problem.


  • #13
    lollipop19
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    Only ever use neat dettol for lambs and calves navels.


  • #14
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    We used to use neat dettol until one year a baby calf still got an infection in his and died. Vet said that dettol was no good, and to use iodine, so that's what was used afterwards, no more dead calves.


  • #15
    lollipop19
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    Very important to keep using whatever works in your own situation. The only time we have ever had a joint ill was the year that we changed to use iodine. Had a number of lambs with joint ill. Straight back to the dettol and its working for us since


  • #16
    whelan2
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    lollipop19 wrote: »
    Very important to keep using whatever works in your own situation. The only time we have ever had a joint ill was the year that we changed to use iodine. Had a number of lambs with joint ill. Straight back to the dettol and its working for us since
    also depends on the strength of the iodine, found the iodine spray useless, navel needs to be dipped completely in the iodine, i save up the tops of spray cans for this job


  • #17
    onyerbikepat
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    also depends on the strength of the iodine, found the iodine spray useless, navel needs to be dipped completely in the iodine, i save up the tops of spray cans for this job

    I was just going to say that - Concentration of Iodine is important. Lower concentrated stuff looks very watered down. I bought a bottle of 10% concentrated bottle yesterday. This is the strong stuff.


  • #18
    howdee
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    Use 10% iodine here, have used savlon in the past but I prefer the iodine as I can see it when it's on. It's also beneficial if there is a iodine deficiency as it will soak into the calf if he needs it. As for the cow licking it off mine do that too.


  • #19
    whelan2
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    i never dilute it, do many people dilute it?


  • #20
    Count Mondego
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    i never dilute it, do many people dilute it?


    Usually get 10% and never dilute. Another thing, buy a new bottle every year as it goes off. Happened me last year. You could even tell by the smell of it. Different for ye dairy lads who use iodine every month of the year. For sucklers who only use it for 3 months each spring, buy a new bottle every year.


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