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Irish licence v UK Penalty Points

  • 30-01-2015 11:29pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭ jimmy5694


    Hi Guys,

    Moved to the UK in September last, I have a full Irish licence and thinking of buying a car here in the UK. Just out of curiosity I'm wondering what would happen if someone with an Irish licence gets pulled over/pass a speed camera for e.g. exceeding the limit, would that person receive a fixed penalty notice along with points or just fine?

    How about bringing the car on UK plates into Ireland and passed a GATSO van exceeding the speed limit?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 585 ShaunieVW


    About 5 years ago I set off 3 In one night, they are everywhere over there and I wasnt actually flying like just a few mph over the limit. Never heard anything back!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,661 ✭✭✭✭ OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭ SCOOP 64


    But you dont have to change to a uk licence over here after 6 months ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,661 ✭✭✭✭ OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭ SCOOP 64


    Never been asked to change my licence by guards or questioned about it , the same with insurance companys when you tell them you have a uk licence.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,789 ✭✭✭ slimjimmc


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    Patww79 wrote: »
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    I'm not sure where you got the 6 months from, can you elaborate. Did you exchange an non-EEA licence to get an EEA one?

    NI residents with a foreign EEA licence can drive in NI for as long as their licence is valid.
    http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/index/information-and-services/motoring/driver-licensing/driving-in-ni-on-a-foreign-licence/driving-in-northern-ireland-ni-on-a-licence-issued-in-a-european-economic-area-eea-country.htm

    GB residents with a foreign EEA licence can drive in GB until the age of 70 or are resident in GB for 3 years, whichever is longer.
    https://www.gov.uk/driving-nongb-licence/y/a-resident-of-great-britain/full-car-and-or-motorcycle/european-union-or-european-economic-area

    If you got your foreign EEA licence by exchanging it for a non-EEA one you can drive for max 12 mths.
    Visitors (non-residents) can drive for as long as their licence is valid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,789 ✭✭✭ slimjimmc


    jimmy5694 wrote: »
    Hi Guys,

    Moved to the UK in September last, I have a full Irish licence and thinking of buying a car here in the UK. Just out of curiosity I'm wondering what would happen if someone with an Irish licence gets pulled over/pass a speed camera for e.g. exceeding the limit, would that person receive a fixed penalty notice along with points or just fine?

    How about bringing the car on UK plates into Ireland and passed a GATSO van exceeding the speed limit?
    No EU country can add points to a licence from another state. However if a traffic offence warrants a ban then a court can ban you from driving in that country but this does not prevent you driving elsewhere.

    I think the UK operates a ghost licence system so can record points against your name (but not your non UK licence).


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,038 ✭✭✭✭ CiniO


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    No EU country can add points to a licence from another state. However if a traffic offence warrants a ban then a court can ban you from driving in that country but this does not prevent you driving elsewhere.

    I think the UK operates a ghost licence system so can record points against your name (but not your non UK licence).

    While technically it's true, but I think there's work around here, and many countries use it.

    F.e. in Poland if you are resident there, but hold foreign licence, upon committing any penalty points offence, penalty points are added to register they hold. Fact that you hold foreign licence is irrelevant.
    If you exceed the points limit there, you will get banned from driving in Poland, even though you hold foreign licence.
    They can not seize your licence, and they can not ban you from driving abroad, but they can and do ban drivers with foreign licence who exceeded penalty points threshold there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,537 ✭✭✭✭ wonski


    CiniO wrote: »
    While technically it's true, but I think there's work around here, and many countries use it.

    F.e. in Poland if you are resident there, but hold foreign licence, upon committing any penalty points offence, penalty points are added to register they hold. Fact that you hold foreign licence is irrelevant.
    If you exceed the points limit there, you will get banned from driving in Poland, even though you hold foreign licence.
    They can not seize your licence, and they can not ban you from driving abroad, but they can and do ban drivers with foreign licence who exceeded penalty points threshold there.

    That is exactly wat slimjimmc said:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,661 ✭✭✭✭ OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users Posts: 755 choons


    I'm working in Nottingham and have an Irish licence, UK car. Got caught by a camera doing 37mph in a 30mph zone and received a letter last week.

    Will let you know how it goes . . .


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,038 ✭✭✭✭ CiniO


    wonski wrote: »
    That is exactly wat slimjimmc said:confused:

    He said that a offence attracting ban can cause ban in UK even for foreign licence holder.

    And he said that points accumulate against your name if you are foreign licence holder in ghost licence system.

    But the question is, if you exceed point limit on this ghost licence system, will you get banned in UK?

    Because in Ireland if you exceed points on ghost licence system, you won't get banned.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,134 gubbie


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    I think the UK operates a ghost licence system so can record points against your name (but not your non UK licence).

    They do. It's a D9 form


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,252 Dia1988


    Yes, the ghost system only operates if the Police stop you.

    I got points on my Ghost licence for speeding to the ferry

    It doesnt transfer onto your Irish Licence


  • Registered Users Posts: 755 choons


    choons wrote: »
    I'm working in Nottingham and have an Irish licence, UK car. Got caught by a camera doing 37mph in a 30mph zone and received a letter last week.

    Will let you know how it goes . . .

    Well I got off lightly . . . because I was only 7mph over there's an option of an AA awareness course instead of a fine or points.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,792 ✭✭✭ MiskyBoyy


    choons wrote: »
    Well I got off lightly . . . because I was only 7mph over there's an option of an AA awareness course instead of a fine or points.

    Except. I don't believe the course is free. I believe it's £90...


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,396 ✭✭✭ theteal


    Yup, it was £90 when I got stung for it about a year ago. The fine was only £60 iirc


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,792 ✭✭✭ MiskyBoyy




  • Registered Users Posts: 755 choons


    MiskyBoyy wrote: »
    Except. I don't believe the course is free. I believe it's £90...

    This is true. Much better than points I feel!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,792 ✭✭✭ MiskyBoyy


    choons wrote: »
    This is true. Much better than points I feel!

    Definitely. The course sounds kind of interesting too tbh. I wouldn't mind doing it over the points myself but a second time around if that's an option, might not be so interesting! :rolleyes:


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