Homeopath recommendation required

Yorky

* This post isn't about the merits-or lack thereof- of homeopathy*

Can anyone recommend an experienced and thorough homeopath, preferably in the North East but Dublin would be fine?

PM details, if preferred.

Thanks in advance.

Brian?

Yorky wrote: »

* This post isn't about the merits-or lack thereof- of homeopathy*

Can anyone recommend an experienced and thorough homeopath, preferably in the North East but Dublin would be fine?

PM details, if preferred.

Thanks in advance.

Homeopathy is complete nonsense. I don't care if you don't want to start a discussion on it's merits, it's complete nonsense.

How can a homeopath be thorough if they're peddling bull****?

Yorky

Brian? wrote: »

Homeopathy is complete nonsense. I don't care if you don't want to start a discussion on it's merits, it's complete nonsense.

How can a homeopath be thorough if they're peddling bull****?

Do you understand plain English? At the outset I stated this wasn't about the merits OR LACK THEREOF of homeopathy.

If I'd wanted a critique I would've asked for it. You should know better as a moderator.

Brian?

Yorky wrote: »

Do you understand plain English? At the outset I stated this wasn't about the merits OR LACK THEREOF of homeopathy.

If I'd wanted a critique I would've asked for it. You should know better as a moderator.

It's an open forum. You don't always get the answer you want.

Brian?

Furthermore, as a moderator of the Health and Fitness forum, there is no way I could let the idea of a "good and thorough" homeopath stand unchallenged.

Homeopathy is not a benign "alternative" to conventional medicine. There are an increasing number of cases where people have eschewed conventional medicine in favour of homeopathy with disastrous results.

Worst of all, parents choosing homeopathy over conventional medicine for their children:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/28/homeopathy-baby-death-couple-jailed

Morally, I can't let the idea of a "good and thorough" homeopaths go unchallenged because of cases like that.

If you don't want a discussion on the merits of homeopathy, don't start threads about it.

Mellor

Yorky wrote: »

Do you understand plain English? At the outset I stated this wasn't about the merits OR LACK THEREOF of homeopathy.

If he didn't understand English then capital letters weren't going to make a difference.

And just because you don't want people to tell you it's nonsense, doesn't mean people aren't still free to do so.

MartyMcFly84

Its water.

Save yourself the time and money and drink tap water. (While its still free).

arayess

Brian? wrote: »

It's an open forum. You don't always get the answer you want.

doesn't excuse you acting the dick though.

Op asked a straightforward question and asked for no debate on the merits or otherwise.
Would it have been that hard to avoid the thread and allow somebody give a recommendation?

Oryx

Mod hat on:

We have a problem here with this topic. Homeopathy is medically dubious, that fact is inarguable. But in the interests of fairness, we will not stifle conversation about it or ban it completely. But nor will we moderate out any negative commentary. I'm sorry if that makes people who have faith in homeopathy feel alienated or pushed out, but this is a topic that is always going to invite negativity on a forum such as this, just as fad diets and poor training advice will also invite opposition. Brian? is posting in a regular user capacity and has not moderated this thread in any way.

Brian?

arayess wrote: »

doesn't excuse you acting the dick though.

Op asked a straightforward question and asked for no debate on the merits or otherwise.
Would it have been that hard to avoid the thread and allow somebody give a recommendation?

I think I've explained quite clearly why I felt the need to comment, so yes it would have "been that hard" to say nothing.

As far as I am concerned, any recommendation given tacitly endorses homeopathy. Homeopathy is nonsense of the highest order and doesn't deserve the slightest endorsement.

endacl

Yorky wrote: »

Do you understand plain English? At the outset I stated this wasn't about the merits OR LACK THEREOF of homeopathy.

If I'd wanted a critique I would've asked for it. You should know better as a moderator.

You ask an impossible question. Experienced at recommending water? Thorough at recommending water? It's like asking people to recommend an experienced and thorough mind reader. Nothing happens as a result of homeopathy besides the 'patient' experiencing a correlation between a reduction in bank balance and a slight increase in hydration.

Drink a glass of water. You can have that prescription for free.

arayess

Brian? wrote: »

I think I've explained quite clearly why I felt the need to comment, so yes it would have "been that hard" to say nothing.

As far as I am concerned, any recommendation given tacitly endorses homeopathy. Homeopathy is nonsense of the highest order and doesn't deserve the slightest endorsement.

if people want to go that route , let them. I don't subscribe to it myself but if they want a practioners name it's a fair question without having to run the gauntlet of sneering "know alls"

In your desperation to right the wrong of your precious forum, did you consider helping the OP with something contructive?

something like I think homopathy is satan's piss but tell me what wrongs and I can advise something else?
No you just went for the cheap put down.

arayess

Brian? wrote: »

I think I've explained quite clearly why I felt the need to comment, so yes it would have "been that hard" to say nothing.

As far as I am concerned, any recommendation given tacitly endorses homeopathy. Homeopathy is nonsense of the highest order and doesn't deserve the slightest endorsement.

if people want to go that route , let them. I don't subscribe to it myself but if they want a practioners name it's a fair question without having to run the gauntlet of sneering "know alls"

In your desperation to right the wrong of your precious forum, did you consider helping the OP with something contructive?

something like "I think homopathy is satan's piss but tell me what wrongs and I can advise something else?"

No you just went for the cheap put down.

endacl

arayess wrote: »

if people want to go that route , let them. I don't subscribe to it myself but if they want a practioners name it's a fair question without having to run the gauntlet of sneering "know alls"

In your desperation to right the wrong of your precious forum, did you consider helping the OP with something contructive?

something like I think homopathy is satan's piss but tell me what wrongs and I can advise something else?
No you just went for the cheap put down.

If the OP told you what was wrong, then advising something else would cross the 'medical advice' threshold.

arayess

endacl wrote: »

If the OP told you what was wrong, then advising something else would cross the 'medical advice' threshold.

you don't know that to be fair.

Brian?

arayess wrote: »

if people want to go that route , let them. I don't subscribe to it myself but if they want a practioners name it's a fair question without having to run the gauntlet of sneering "know alls"

In your desperation to right the wrong of your precious forum, did you consider helping the OP with something contructive?

something like I think homopathy is satan's piss but tell me what wrongs and I can advise something else?
No you just went for the cheap put down.

I don't understand this at all, but particularly the part bolded. The most constructive advice I can give anyone on the subject is to stay away from homeopathy. It wasn't a cheap put down, it's the simple truth.

And it's not "my precious forum", it's a public forum I happen to moderate.

bajer101

endacl

arayess wrote: »

you don't know that to be fair.

I don't. But the rules here are fairly tight, and well policed. Give me an example of a symptom where people might visit a chancer homeopath, where they wouldn't be better served by visiting a doctor, physio, dentist, psychologist.... I'm open to correction, but I really can't think of one. If they were a teeny tiny bit thirsty perhaps?

Brian?

endacl wrote: »

I don't. But the rules here are fairly tight, and well policed. Give me an example of a symptom where people might visit a chancer homeopath, where they wouldn't be better served by visiting a doctor, physio, dentist, psychologist.... I'm open to correction, but I really can't think of one. If they were a teeny tiny bit thirsty perhaps?

Now lets be fair. Sometimes homeopathic remedies are water dripped on sugar tablets, so they can help if you're craving something sweet as well as thirsty.

Oryx

arayess wrote: »

you don't know that to be fair.

Actually it probably would. And anything of a medical nature or recommendations for practitioners of any sort is something we are required to supervise closely for many reasons.

endacl

Brian? wrote: »

Now lets be fair. Sometimes homeopathic remedies are water dripped on sugar tablets, so they can help if you're craving something sweet as well as thirsty.

In that case, I'm doubly outraged. We're heading for the top of the European league table in terms of population obesity. Those charlatans are handing out charging for unnecessary sugar as well?!?

Only a matter of time before they're peddling inhalers full of fresh air.

valor rorghulis

About 12/13years ago there was a conventional GP in Killester who also did homeopathy. He renewed the regular conventional medicine I was on as well as offering some homeopathic prescriptions. Was a lovely guy

May have been this guy http://www.yelp.ie/biz/dr-james-a-dolan-killester

Perhaps give a call and see

ford2600

About 200 clinical studies of homeopathic remedies are available to date. With that sort of number, one cannot be surprised that the results are not entirely uniform. It would be easy to cherry pick and select those findings that one happens to like (and some homeopaths do exactly that). Yet, if we want to know the truth, we need to consider the totality of this evidence and weigh it according to its scientific rigour. This approach is called a systematic review. Over a dozen systematic reviews of homeopathy have been published. Almost uniformly, they come to the conclusion that homeopathic remedies are not different from placebo.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2012/apr/03/homeopathy-why-i-changed-my-mind

Turtwig

Pfft the establishment would claim that. Protect their own livelihoods. They're still refusing to acknowledge the dangers of the industrial by product dihydrogen monoxide.

MartyMcFly84

Pfft the establishment would claim that. Protect their own livelihoods. They're still refusing to acknowledge the dangers of the industrial by product dihydrogen monoxide.

Diverting attention instead of addressing the facts regarding the topic of Homoeopathy ?

Brian?

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

Diverting attention instead of addressing the facts regarding the topic of Homoeopathy ?

You may need to calibrate your sarcasm detector.

MartyMcFly84

You may need to calibrate your sarcasm detector.

Sarcasm does not comes through well in written format. Especially when written by a stranger. For all I know the OP is being sarcastic.

ford2600

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

Sarcasm does not comes through well in written format. Especially when written by a stranger. For all I know the OP is being sarcastic.

dihydrogen monoxide= water

MartyMcFly84

dihydrogen monoxide= water

H2O'rrly?