Alternative Tie Knots in the Workplace

El_Duderino 09

Hey,

I'm looking for opinions on ties in the workplace. I'm wondering what you guys think about men using knots like the Eldridge Knot Trinity Knot or the traditional Windsor Knot . I think the first 2 are much more interesting than The old Windsor knot.

I was going to post this in the Gentlemen's forum but I'm interested in women's opinions on ties too.

Would non-traditional ties be OK in your job and what would you think about someone with a Eldridge or Trinity knot? What about Civil Service type jobs?

Thanks in advance.

Beaner1

Four in hand and nothing else. Everything else looks bad for varying reasons.

El_Duderino 09

Beaner1 wrote: »

Four in hand and nothing else. Everything else looks bad for varying reasons.

Thanks Beaner. Which reasons for anything else looking bad?

Jim2007

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Would non-traditional ties be OK in your job and what would you think about someone with a Eldridge or Trinity knot? What about Civil Service type jobs?

Well on a few occasion I've worked with accountants who sported bow ties and one even had a cape and top hat!!!

And the only consider where I work now is whether one should go bear foot or ware sandals in office during the summer!

Beaner1

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Thanks Beaner. Which reasons for anything else looking bad?

Most other knots either look too try hard, too symetrical, too bulky or too fussy. Sometimes all of the above. These "rules" are obviously subjective but I'd always look to the best classically dressed men for guidance.

Have a look here at the visual effect of tie shape.

http://dresslikeagrownup.blogspot.nl/2012/08/a-four-in-hand-is-worth-eight-in-bush.html

Over 90% of Irish men dress awfully in the workplace so feel free to experiment.

Victor

I was about to say who cares, but the Trinity knot loots like something a stoner would do.

ABajaninCork

If you need to wear a tie for work, then I assume you're in a position where you need to be taken seriously. In that case, only a Windsor knot will do. The rest look too fussy and 'try hardish'.

Dunford

ABajaninCork wrote: »

If you need to wear a tie for work, then I assume you're in a position where you need to be taken seriously. In that case, only a Windsor knot will do. The rest look too fussy and 'try hardish'.

I agree. Nothing worse than a person in a position of responsibility with a wretchedly tied tie. Tie a perfect windsor, the others are distracting.

Stheno

ABajaninCork wrote: »

If you need to wear a tie for work, then I assume you're in a position where you need to be taken seriously. In that case, only a Windsor knot will do. The rest look too fussy and 'try hardish'.

Agreed here too the rest are just a bit weird looking

Manach

As the only tie wearer in the office (being the conservative rebel) I say go with a bow-tie because they (like Fezzes) are cool.

FloatingVoter

Manach wrote: »

As the only tie wearer in the office (being the conservative rebel) I say go with a bow-tie because they (like Fezzes) are cool.

You do know you've been replaced by a new Doctor ?

El_Duderino 09

Ok consensus seems to be stick to the regular Windsor knot.

I'm surprised that there is no variation in such a common item of clothing.

I'll keep the eldridge for outside work then. Thanks everyone.

ABajaninCork

This explains everything perfectly! Made me laugh...

El_Duderino 09

ABajaninCork wrote: »

This explains everything perfectly! Made me laugh...

Got a laugh from that. I do find it strange that it's something lots of men do every day. They come in all colours, patterns, textures, and the only acceptable knot is the most simple bland one going.

Beaner1

Seriously, drop the Windsor. It looks dorky.
I know this source might not be the best but I've heard the same advice from many other oracles of style.
http://www.gq.com/style/style-guy/accessories/200304/windsor-knot-james-bond

This is the best place online for mens dressing advice.

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showthread.php?80315-Do-NOT-trust-a-man-wearing-a-Windsor-knot!!

DoYouEvenLift

Beaner1 wrote: »

Seriously, drop the Windsor. It looks dorky.
I know this source might not be the best but I've heard the same advice from many other oracles of style.
http://www.gq.com/style/style-guy/accessories/200304/windsor-knot-james-bond

This is the best place online for mens dressing advice.

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showthread.php?80315-Do-NOT-trust-a-man-wearing-a-Windsor-knot!!

A Windsor is just a slightly more symmetrical version of four in the hand which is the knot you suggested?

El_Duderino 09

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

A Windsor is just a slightly more symmetrical version of four in the hand which is the knot you suggested?

That's what I was thinking. Is there something too fussy about having a tie too perfect? Should it have a touch of 'devil may care / just out of bed'?

I'm wondering what age group the posters fall in. Like if we're talking double breasted blazer with 4 in hand knot, then we might be at crossed purpose

Even if that is the case, it's usually older people who are in positions of authority so no point in looking silly in their eyes

ABajaninCork

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

That's what I was thinking. Is there something too fussy about having a tie too perfect? Should it have a touch of 'devil may care / just out of bed'?

I'm wondering what age group the posters fall in. Like if we're talking double breasted blazer with 4 in hand knot, then we might be at crossed purpose

Even if that is the case, it's usually older people who are in positions of authority so no point in looking silly in their eyes

Look. Either you want to look smart and be taken seriously, or you don't. FWIW, I've seen very few people look good with a four-in-hand, as the ends are never straight or even.

Go with a simple classic knot, and save the wacky stuff for less formal occasions!

El_Duderino 09

ABajaninCork wrote: »

Look. Either you want to look smart and be taken seriously, or you don't. FWIW, I've seen very few people look good with a four-in-hand, as the ends are never straight or even.

Go with a simple classic knot, and save the wacky stuff for less formal occasions!

When you say the 'classic knot' which one do you mean? Windsor?

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K4t

ABajaninCork wrote: »

If you need to wear a tie for work, then I assume you're in a position where you need to be taken seriously. In that case, only a Windsor knot will do. The rest look too fussy and 'try hardish'.

Needing to wear a tie for work has nothing to do with being in a position where you need to be taken seriously.

ABajaninCork

K4t wrote: »

Needing to wear a tie for work has nothing to do with being in a position where you need to be taken seriously.

From the OP, it's to be assumed he does wear ties for work, no? Hence the question, and the responses...

El_Duderino 09

ABajaninCork wrote: »

From the OP, it's to be assumed he does wear ties for work, no? Hence the question, and the responses...

I'm getting a civil service type job which involves reasonably smart dress. I've never really cared about tie knots until this week so I'm just testing the waters.

I really like the creative looking knots and I'm sure I'll use them in my own time but the consensus opinion is to keep it simple in work.

ABajaninCork

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I'm getting a civil service type job which involves reasonably smart dress. I've never really cared about tie knots until this week so I'm just testing the waters.

I really like the creative looking knots and I'm sure I'll use them in my own time but the consensus opinion is to keep it simple in work.

You're not one of the fellas starting at Dublin Airport, are you?

Stheno

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I'm getting a civil service type job which involves reasonably smart dress. I've never really cared about tie knots until this week so I'm just testing the waters.

I really like the creative looking knots and I'm sure I'll use them in my own time but the consensus opinion is to keep it simple in work.

Civil Service = conservative, keep the Windsor

El_Duderino 09

Not in Dublin airport. It's in England so as you say keep it conservative Windsor.

ABajaninCork

Well - if you're working in the City or similar, a plain old Windsor will do! We don't like anything too off-key!! :P

shalalala

Windsor deffo. Nothing more simple and stylish