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What do registration fees actually pay for?

  • 23-01-2015 7:26pm
    #1
    Joaquin223
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭


    Apologies if this has been answered before, but €2750 (rising to €3000 next year) per student seems like a lot of money to cover "student services and examinations" (a vague explanation from citizen's information). Does the majority go straight to each university's SU? Are holding/correcting exams that expensive?

    I'll probably ask USI to get a more definitive answer, but I just wanted to know what the general view is.

    (I realise there was this thread: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=74321406 - not very enlightening)


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  • #2
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,157 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    No way would the SU get that kind of money.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #3
    Joaquin223
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭Joaquin223


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    No way would the SU get that kind of money.

    Ok, so most of it must go to the University. Still seems like a lot of money, with little information about that money is spent?


  • #4
    ninty9er
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    It just goes into a huge pot in reality. €3k a head doesn't go a long way in running a university, it's the International students that are keeping the show on the road.


  • #5
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    NUIG has an extra 225ish that goes towards the SU and gym so i doubt any of the 3k goes to them.


  • #6
    ninty9er
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    shruikan2553 wrote: »
    NUIG has an extra 225ish that goes towards the SU and gym so i doubt any of the 3k goes to them.
    Common misconception that levies fund Unions. The Unions are funded from the core fee. Capital projects and similar additional levies approved by referendum locally are what the topups pay for. For example in UCC it covers Mardyke membership and the capital cost.


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  • #7
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,157 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    shruikan2553 wrote: »
    NUIG has an extra 225ish that goes towards the SU and gym so i doubt any of the 3k goes to them.

    Again I really doubt the SU get that 225. Generally levies like that go towards capital projects like building gyms.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #8
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,157 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Joaquin223 wrote: »
    Ok, so most of it must go to the University. Still seems like a lot of money, with little information about that money is spent?

    As far as I know 99er is correct it just goes into a big pot for running the college. The college runnibg costs would be huge.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #9
    smcgiff
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    It is what you suspect it is - partial university fees. Relatively Low, but fees none the less.


  • #10
    maki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭maki


    From NUIG:
    The student contribution charge (SCC) of €2,750 (2014/15) covers the cost of the following services:

    Student service's costs including career development centre, sports, clubs and societies
    Space costs associated with student facilities
    Costs relating to registration, fees, admission and examinations
    Library and computing costs


  • #11
    ninty9er
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    If you look at the cost of running exams alone you're probably pushing 1-2 million a year between printing, scheduling, supervision and corrections, collating results and technology. I'd say upwards of 5 million in the likes of UCD with renting the RDS etc.

    I'd be in favour of just having the full €8k tuition fees with no allowances for income. Go get a loan and fund the system properly, whilst retaining the state grants as small and all as they are now.

    Use the income to provide supports for those from disadvantaged backgrounds, however if everyone is equal in our republic, I see no reason why everyone shouldn't have to pay up front.

    Education adds to a person's humanity, employability, diversity and sense of self. I see no reason why those who have (or whose families have) worked hard to become wealthy should pay more than anyone else.

    It's easy for me to say that with the benefit of a "free" education and a low bracket grant for 1 of those years, but I've been in a position to see people (and more than a small minority) take the piss out of grants, do a year on the piss, fail and drop out (with that being the plan all the time).

    It's like Social Protection fraud, small in the overall scheme of things, but everything adds up.

    /rant


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