Aer Lingus 747 upper deck

mikedublin

Hi, Would anyone have any pictures of what Aer Lingus used to have in their 747's upper decks ? I only ever travelled on them as a economy passenger so always wondered what it was like in the upper deck ? From the old timetable seat maps it looked like there was just a handful of seats up there.

Anyone got any old upper deck pictures they would like to post ?

Tenger

Check out this video.....just after 4 mins 35 you will see the upper deck cabin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E-iMDMz8HM


EDIT: My mistake, posted wrong link....watch after 4,46 to see the upper deck.

EI used to call each cabin after an Irish province. The kids were usually at the back of the main deck...hence the term Munster monsters!!

sully2010

Tenger wrote: »

Check out this video.....just after 4 mins 35 you will see the upper deck cabin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDDudYxgA8Y&feature=youtu.be

Im not seeing it, is it really after 4.35?

0lddog

Towards the end of the clip there is footage of 707 & BAC1-11

edit : Tenger might have been thinking of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E-iMDMz8HM

sully2010

sully2010 wrote: »

Im not seeing it, is it really after 4.35?

I thought it was just me ! Phew.

sully2010

0lddog wrote: »

Towards the end of the clip there is footage of 707 & BAC1-11

edit : Tenger might have been thinking of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E-iMDMz8HM

Still not seeing the upper deck cabin in that video!

I just remembered this one, maybe this is what Tenger was after. After 1 minute you get a good look at it converted for Pope John Paul's visit in 1980.

Danbo!

In general, 747 upper deck any use? Suppose it depends on airline, I'm flying Virgin tomorrow in economy upstairs. 5/6 rows of economy behind Upper Class, hoping it's nice and quiet and never been up the stairs on a 747 :cool:

Danbo!

Danbo! wrote: »

In general, 747 upper deck any use? Suppose it depends on airline, I'm flying Virgin tomorrow in economy upstairs. 5/6 rows of economy behind Upper Class, hoping it's nice and quiet and never been up the stairs on a 747 :cool:

Take a few photos and let us see :rolleyes:

donvito99

Yes the linked video is the cabin directly under the cockpit and under the upper deck.

Tenger

donvito99 wrote: »

Yes the linked video is the cabin directly under the cockpit and under the upper deck.

AH bugger. Looking again I can see the lack of cockpit entry way means it was the nose section. I was tricked by the little angled table in the middle.

Well at least it shows I'm not old enough to have flown on an EI B741!!!

smurfjed

747 upper deck any use?

Depends on the version, at least in the ones that i have flown on, the -SP and-100/200 had lounges and crew rest areas upstairs, i have never seen them with actual passenger style seats. the -300 has had either all economy seats or business seats with crappy crew rest facilities and a small galley. The -400, well it is called the Queen of the Skies, business seats up stairs, but the cockpit has it own toilet and bedroom :)
In the two VIP versions that i have flown on, they had bedrooms upstairs.
Enjoy it..

Preset No.3

Danbo! wrote: »

In general, 747 upper deck any use? Suppose it depends on airline, I'm flying Virgin tomorrow in economy upstairs. 5/6 rows of economy behind Upper Class, hoping it's nice and quiet and never been up the stairs on a 747 :cool:

It's PE and Economy in the bubble on the 74.

smurfjed

Well at least it shows I'm not old enough to have flown on an EI B741!!!

I remember that EI used to sell seats to Shannon and then you came back by train, used to be the best school trip ever

W1ll1s

747-Upper Deck

L1011

smurfjed wrote: »

I remember that EI used to sell seats to Shannon and then you came back by train, used to be the best school trip ever

Did that trip on a 330 due to the 747 withdrawal, buggers didn't keep them on another year...

Preset No.3

W1ll1s wrote: »

747-Upper Deck

That's the pre refurbished aircraft. Bubble is split between PE and economy.

A319er

I think it was EI BED had rows 58 59 60 in upper deck , just flew it once,
All y on main deck then rear half was cargo area , could be wrong as the 70 's seem so long ago, even recall ex BFS to JFK with a few DeLoreans on board , odd times but a rare privilege at the time

merisi

Tenger wrote: »

AH bugger. Looking again I can see the lack of cockpit entry way means it was the nose section. I was tricked by the little angled table in the middle.

Well at least it shows I'm not old enough to have flown on an EI B741!!!

The upper deck would only have 3 windows either side. I think someone told me once that the upper deck was just used for "carrying stuff" in Aer Lingus service.

knockon

I flew "upstairs" twice in premier on an EI 747 in early 1990's to JFK from SNN. 12 huge seats, a galley and lav and 1 F/A. I remember "Inisfree" soap and after shave in the lav and the green bags with inflight stuff. I'll try and dig out a photo.

Danbo!

Deleted User wrote: »

Take a few photos and let us see :rolleyes:

Will do. Booked upstairs for return too, some reviews say quiet and great service due to FA:Pax ratio, others say a bit cramped for 11hr flight. Window seat out, aisle return. $40 per standard seat selection per leg, madness.

Tenger

A319er wrote: »

I think it was EI BED had rows 58 59 60 in upper deck , just flew it once,
All Y on main deck then rear half was cargo area , could be wrong as the 70 's seem so long ago, even recall ex BFS to JFK with a few DeLoreans on board.......

AFAIK EI nevr used the combi version of the B747.

Here you can see a pic of the aft cargo door on the Combi version of the B747. It allows cargo to be carried on the main deck, behind the pax. I think it is usually a 70/30 split between pax/cargo.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/charles79/9944375173/in/photolist-acXbrd-9dkDyy-aTFvC2-dK5TkR-a3HBWn-a3LtoG-9Gi5vD-9Gi5dn-9GkYDd-9Gi5kV-cn3Asw-dKbmoy-e13E8v-5RBs5z-dWRPyN-nUy3oT-cPpfRw-fGGG1X-fGG7HT-fGG6WT-fGYHg7-fGYFP3-fGZeVU-duqgtD-fGZBZo-fGYGSj-jHbAQe-9dWX1s-cA5s8Y-fpTDBc-fq8TqY-9jVnUH-9jYcBC-9jV4PT-9jYeE3-9jV9Lr-3eeKzf-hNZUkD-qpVMsW-8WKQMj-g9Kwhn-pJmCua-6cvaCW-9ghUQH-9gkYaQ-9gkYXW-9ghUHi-9gkYQq-9ghUdP-9gkYHw

McWotever

Tenger wrote: »

AFAIK EI nevr used the combi version of the B747.

Here you can see a pic of the aft cargo door on the Combi version of the B747. It allows cargo to be carried on the main deck, behind the pax. I think it is usually a 70/30 split between pax/cargo.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/charles79/9944375173/in/photolist-acXbrd-9dkDyy-aTFvC2-dK5TkR-a3HBWn-a3LtoG-9Gi5vD-9Gi5dn-9GkYDd-9Gi5kV-cn3Asw-dKbmoy-e13E8v-5RBs5z-dWRPyN-nUy3oT-cPpfRw-fGGG1X-fGG7HT-fGG6WT-fGYHg7-fGYFP3-fGZeVU-duqgtD-fGZBZo-fGYGSj-jHbAQe-9dWX1s-cA5s8Y-fpTDBc-fq8TqY-9jVnUH-9jYcBC-9jV4PT-9jYeE3-9jV9Lr-3eeKzf-hNZUkD-qpVMsW-8WKQMj-g9Kwhn-pJmCua-6cvaCW-9ghUQH-9gkYaQ-9gkYXW-9ghUHi-9gkYQq-9ghUdP-9gkYHw

I thought the 741s were all passenger too. I think their 707s were combi.

billy few mates

I can remember when that upper deck on the EI B747s was configured as a F/C lounge with seating like low brightly coloured sofas around the edge, I remember sitting up there in the early 80s. I also remember when they did away with the lounge and put normal seats up there, on several transatlantic trips I did they put all the staff standbys up there and left us to fend for ourselves while the CC looked after the revenue pax on the main deck.

Tenger

billy few mates wrote: »

.......I remember sitting up there in the early 80s.......... I did they put all the staff standbys up there and left us to fend for ourselves while the CC looked after the revenue pax on the main deck.

Proper order too!!

billy few mates

I remember once boarding a flight from SNN-JFK and there were about a dozen staff standbys from several airlines, at check in they told us there was some sort of a problem with catering or cabin crew numbers or something (can't remember exactly) and they said to us as a group that we could all get on but we'd have to sit on the upper deck and there would be no meal service for us. We didn't care we just wanted the seat but once we actually got on board the CC couldn't do enough for us and rounded up all the spare meals they could from First Class, Business Class, and Economy and gave them up to us along with plenty of 'refreshments' so it was more like a party buffet with people wandering around helping themselves to snacks, the crew were fantastic and invited a couple of us into the flight deck for landing.

knockon

billy few mates wrote: »

I can remember when that upper deck on the EI B747s was configured as a F/C lounge with seating like low brightly coloured sofas around the edge, I remember sitting up there in the early 80s. I also remember when they did away with the lounge and put normal seats up there, on several transatlantic trips I did they put all the staff standbys up there and left us to fend for ourselves while the CC looked after the revenue pax on the main deck.

One of the trips I was on in the upper deck....9 non revs and 3 customers. Sticking out like sore thumbs wearing suits and ties.

Tenger

knockon wrote: »

One of the trips I was on in the upper deck....9 non revs and 3 customers. Sticking out like sore thumbs wearing suits and ties.

Indeed. I can remember being the last to board a Qantas B744 ex LAX (was first at the gate too)...I can hand on my hand state that I was the best dressed pax onboard as I was standby and wearing a nice Ted Baker suit (I find it great for travelling as it has lots of pockets in the jacket for stuff)

ohigg84

sully2010 wrote: »

Still not seeing the upper deck cabin in that video!

I just remembered this one, maybe this is what Tenger was after. After 1 minute you get a good look at it converted for Pope John Paul's visit in 1980.
.................

Pope John Paul II visited Ireland in 1979, not 1980.
Nice video though!

LiamaDelta

Danbo! wrote: »

In general, 747 upper deck any use? Suppose it depends on airline, I'm flying Virgin tomorrow in economy upstairs. 5/6 rows of economy behind Upper Class, hoping it's nice and quiet and never been up the stairs on a 747 :cool:

The upper deck of most BA 747's is Business class only afaik. Makes for a nice quiet and spacious flight, especially if you get the emergency exit row also.

roundymac

I flew economy upper deck with SAA a couple of times. It was like being jammed into a sauna for 12 hours, not nice at all.

Danbo!

LiamaDelta wrote: »

The upper deck of most BA 747's is Business class only afaik. Makes for a nice quiet and spacious flight, especially if you get the emergency exit row also.

It was Virgin, in this config - http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Virgin_Atlantic_Airways/Virgin_Atlantic_Airways_Boeing_747-400_4.php

Flight was grand for 11 hours in economy, I had 79K. Service was good with an FA just looking after the economy pax and another in Upper class. Doing the return on Saturday, also upper deck, will put up a few pics when I'm back.

LiamaDelta

Danbo! wrote: »

It was Virgin, in this config

Flight was grand for 11 hours in economy, I had 79K. Service was good with an FA just looking after the economy pax and another in Upper class. Doing the return on Saturday, also upper deck, will put up a few pics when I'm back.

Aye I got that...mine was just a general comment from experience on whether it's worth it. Upstairs on the BA 747 is business only and I've managed to get exit row as well at times (62K I think). It's definitely worth it, so quiet, own galley for drinks and snacks, extra storage with the bins at the window and only 20 passengers...makes for a very nice flight

Danbo!

LiamaDelta wrote: »

Aye I got that...mine was just a general comment from experience on whether it's worth it.

Ah, gotcha, sorry!


Return trip was good too, nice and quiet so managed a few hours sleep on the overnight, which is odd for me.

Here's the upper deck, in front of the curtain is Upper Class as well as forward of door 2 downstairs. You can see their bar in the pic of the stairs.

harryd2

Might be of interest to this thread (sorry if already posted)

Comhrá

Looks like some fellow bought it and parked it outside the back of his house to break for spare parts - along with the Ford Escort and the Hillman Avenger

Pat Dunne

tippman1 wrote: »

Looks like some fellow bought it and parked it outside the back of his house to break for spare parts - along with the Ford Escort and the Hillman Avenger

He probably threw it up on those blocks to strip it down