The journal.ie

lufties

I went on this website recently, scrolled down about 10 articles and could not find one that was remotely interesting, seems like a hybrid of government propaganda and x factor type emoting..the only bit I like is the comments bit at the end. Real lowest common denominator stuff. Anyone else agree?

AndonHandon

Luft wing loonies.

Mint Sauce

lufties wrote: »

I went on this website recently, scrolled down about 10 articles and could not find one that was remotely interesting, seems like a hybrid of government propaganda and x factor type emoting..the only bit I like is the comments bit at the end. Real lowest common denominator stuff. Anyone else agree?

My opinion is that it seems fashionable to dislike the journal. Dont see to much wrong with it my self, there is a hell of a lot worse out there..

AndonHandon

Mint Sauce wrote: »

My opinion is that it seems fashionable to dislike the journal. Dont see to much wrong with it my self, there is a hell of a lot worse out there..

Politics dot i e and comments section under Irish Times' articles!

The_Valeyard

Do not read the comments section. It is bad for your health.

You will find the same people, spouting the same sh*te, again and again no matter what the story is.

mass_debater

I dislike it for the lack of journalism, it's just copying and pasting

SweetChaos

I like the journal especially for the comments of the uneducated fools

lufties

mass_debater wrote: »

I dislike it for the lack of journalism, it's just copying and pasting

Very amateurish alright, I've only started achedemic writing for the firdt time ever and I could do better.

Peter Anthony

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Do not read the comments section. It is bad for your health.

You will find the same people, spouting the same sh*te, again and again no matter what the story is.

Bit like here then. As Irish news sites go its probably the best even if half the articles are written like they were done by 12 year olds or are cringeworthy clickbait.

Meangadh

I like it. I know it's not ground breaking journalism or anything, but apart from the lunatics you see in the comments section, the actual articles are fine.

Some of the writers are very witty too in the Daily Edge section, I enjoy it for a bit of light reading.

I'd certainly rather be reading The Journal than the Sunday Independent. Now that's a rag.

SweetChaos

You cant comment if its not linked from facebook or twitter so its another leg of social media

G_R

Quite enjoy the daily edge myself. Makes the morning commute a little less horrible.

SweetChaos

Meangadh wrote: »

I like it. I know it's not ground breaking journalism or anything, but apart from the lunatics you see in the comments section, the actual articles are fine.

Some of the writers are very witty too in the Daily Edge section, I enjoy it for a bit of light reading.

I'd certainly rather be reading The Journal than the Sunday Independent. Now that's a rag.

How is the Sunday Independent a rag?

Birneybau

lufties wrote: »

Very amateurish alright, I've only started achedemic writing for the firdt time ever and I could do better.

For reals?

Birneybau

SweetChaos wrote: »

How is the Sunday Independent a rag?

Again, for reals?

newmug

Peter Anthony wrote: »

Bit like here then. As Irish news sites go its probably the best even if half the articles are written like they were done by 12 year olds or are cringeworthy clickbait.

Dafuq? Its the daily mail for militant student types. Boards minus the mods.

Venus In Furs

Mint Sauce wrote: »

My opinion is that it seems fashionable to dislike the journal. Dont see to much wrong with it my self, there is a hell of a lot worse out there..

I and many others dislike it because its articles are sh1t-stirring, designed to rile up idiots.
And said idiots post comments that would make you despair for humanity.

Nothing to do with a fashion/bandwagon. I liked it at the start. I don't think it was aiming for the direction it ended up going in.

The_Valeyard

Peter Anthony wrote: »

Bit like here then. As Irish news sites go its probably the best even if half the articles are written like they were done by 12 year olds or are cringeworthy clickbait.

To be fair we are not pretending to be journalists or beacons of truth and knowledge.

AH is more like a den of delinquents. Bit like Fernando's hideaway.

We chat, debate, mock, bemuzed rage, over huge number of nonsense, bizzare, and strange threads. E.g. 'I found a safe'

lufties

SweetChaos wrote: »

How is the Sunday Independent a rag?

Today I read a headline on the independent says Katherine thomas is proud of leo varadkar for coming out as gay...I mean seriously who gives a flying fook.

SweetChaos

Birneybau wrote: »

Again, for reals?

Yeah for "reals" is that even a word? What is so bad about the Sunday Independant or does it make you look cool for saying its shíte now?

SweetChaos

lufties wrote: »

Today I read a headline on the independent says Katherine thomas is proud of leo varadkar for coming out as gay...I mean seriously who gives a flying fook.

I give a flying fck it took a lot of courage to come out especially being such a public figure

irish coldplayer

SweetChaos wrote: »

How is the Sunday Independent a rag?

Barry Egan, Brendan O Connor, Niamh horan
I could go on but I think that alone is enough

Birneybau

SweetChaos wrote: »

Yeah for "reals" is that even a word? What is so bad about the Sunday Independant or does it make you look cool for saying its shíte now?

Are you Niamh Horan? It's a fcuking rag, and that's a very popular opinion.

Yeah, we are all newspaper snobs. :rolleyes:

I read a paper that nobody's heard of yet.

It doesn't have Barry Egan, Gerard Kean, Lisa whateverherfcukingnameis...

SweetChaos

Birneybau wrote: »

Are you Niamh Horan? It's a fcuking rag, and that's a very popular opinion.

Yeah, we are all newspaper snobs. :rolleyes:

I read a paper that nobody's heard of yet.

It doesn't have Barry Egan, Gerard Kean, Lisa whateverherfcukingnameis...

Well I like it anyway but I wouldn't call it a rag , The amount of times articles are linked in here in boards you would never believe the hate lol

Mr. Incognito

SweetChaos wrote: »

How is the Sunday Independent a rag?

Really? Because of the idiotic nonsensical sensational dribble that comes out of its vacuous journos dribble holes every week.

Gutter rag at its worst.

hfallada

Its problem is the its "journalists", write literally anything. Where as the Irish times has economist journalist that only talk about economics related topics. They arent going to talking about Davos in Switzerland and the next day discussing abortion like in the journal.

Unlike the huffingtonpost.com which gets some amazing people to write for it. The journal doesnt get these powerful individuals, who instead give their articles to the Irish Times. Which actually investigates real issues

Peter Anthony

newmug wrote: »

Dafuq? Its the daily mail for militant student types. Boards minus the mods.

Name one better irish news site? It is moderated to a degree, tbf Boards is heavily censored which isnt ideal either.

Mint Sauce

Venus In Furs wrote: »

I and many others dislike it because its articles are sh1t-stirring, designed to rile up idiots.
And said idiots post comments that would make you despair for humanity.

Nothing to do with a fashion/bandwagon. I liked it at the start. I don't think it was aiming for the direction it ended up going in.

I liken the comments to some of the ones you see on FB, and you tube. It seems alot of people subscribe to these pages just to try and be contraversal.

As for the fasion statement, i'm sure theres plenty who say they dislike it, but cant or wont say why, hence my original comment.

Birneybau

Mint Sauce wrote: »

I liken the comments to some of the ones you see on FB, and you tube. It seems alot of people subscribe to these pages just to try and be contraversal.

As for the fasion statement, i'm sure theres plenty who say they dislike it, but cant or wont say why, hence my original comment.

20 things Irish mammies say, Remember World Cup 1990, Can you believe 'The Snapper' is so many years old...blah blah blah, old sweets you can't get anymore, crazy cereals from around the World.

That's why I don't like it. See also Joe(Conor McGregor is God).ie

Peter Anthony

The comments on the journal are no worse than the ones on The Independents website. In fact at least they make sense and people aent afraid to put their names behind them, they also arent heavily censored.

JaseBelleVie

The armpit of journalism. But it's like a car crash. I cannot help but look at the bloody thing!

SpaceSasqwatch

Any website that trys to force you to install an app when viewing on a smart phone can f off.

Having said that the comments are brilliant.

lufties

To be honest 'the journalists' on the journal look like really nice people from their photos, but they are young and probably a bit gormless while thinking they are hip and cool. I can imagine them down the long hall pub on a thursday after work saying 'yeaah I write for loike ya know the jirrnol.ie? ',

I feel sorry for them though, they are probably being manipulated into writing the mindless propaganda by the powers that be. A real publication might find them hard to take seriously in their future career.

porsche959

SweetChaos wrote: »

How is the Sunday Independent a rag?

The Backwards Man

When I have to sledge a wall or batter in fenceposts, I read the journal first to get me in the mood.

Insect Overlord

Peter Anthony wrote: »

The comments on the journal are no worse than the ones on The Independents website. In fact at least they make sense and people aent afraid to put their names behind them, they also arent heavily censored.

Venus In Furs

Peter Anthony wrote: »

The comments on the journal are no worse than the ones on The Independents website.

No they're not, I agree - BreakingNews.ie is another.

Peter Anthony

Venus In Furs wrote: »

No they're not, I agree - BreakingNews.ie is another.

All Irish news sites are mostly total bollocks. I'd end up browsing journal.ie and the independent the odd time even though I actively despise the independent but at least their sites are easily readable.

Meangadh

lufties wrote: »

To be honest 'the journalists' on the journal look like really nice people from their photos, but they are young and probably a bit gormless while thinking they are hip and cool. I can imagine them down the long hall pub on a thursday after work saying 'yeaah I write for loike ya know the jirrnol.ie? ',

I feel sorry for them though, they are probably being manipulated into writing the mindless propaganda by the powers that be. A real publication might find them hard to take seriously in their future career.

I dunno, a number of their former staff members have gone on to do very well for themselves in other journalism/broadcasting areas. Depends on the individual journalists I'd imagine, rather than the fact that thejournal.ie is on their CV- although even at that, it's a popular website clearly so that can't be a bad work experience to have under your belt.

eternal

I live for the comments section on 'journo' sites which are not proof read ever, just so I can argue insanely with random people.

The Black Oil

It seems to be heavily modelled on the Daily Mail's online presence.

Commercially, it's got the high turnover of articles and photos. Lots of clicks and a dragnet approach. Get the stuff up ASAP. Tonally, it skews left - different to the DM in that respect, but no less irritating in being repetitive. Not sure it's as hypocritical as the DM, preaching one thing, posting another. Comments - almost the full range, if not quite as bad as Youtube. Some spot on, plenty of green thumbs/red ones if someone goes against the grain and sometimes unnecessary hostility towards the authors. A good deal of backslapping and outrage to be had, too.

Tbf, there are instances where they do produce good content. I'd hesitate to call them investigations, but some of their very long pieces, can't think of any just this minute, are worth reading. Hidden Ireland stuff is good, too.

suicide_circus

Clickbait machine with copy n paste articles

MRnotlob606

Personally, I think the Independent is spiralling down into the abyss of red top tabloids. Look at the comments section below any of their Facebook posts. It would make you disdain for humanity.

mikom

SweetChaos wrote: »

How is the Sunday Independent a rag?

All the ballsy guys are sticking up for the Sunday Independent these days.