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Hall of Fame 2015 (possible spoilers)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭D-FENS


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Pity that new terminator film looks like it will be a ****ing disaster.

    The only reason Arnie turned up as well


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    Wow, something in my eyes watching Bryans speech


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,882 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    Reading these pages is making me think of subscribing to the network just for the HOF

    Must.....resist.....the.....urge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,491 ✭✭✭thebostoncrab


    Goddamnit watching Daniels and Conor's dads speech was the wrong thing to do hungover, tears everywhere!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    Shame Grandmaster Sexay and Scotty 2 Hotty weren't there to dance with Rikishi


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    Jesus the Connor stuff was tough. His dad did a a great job. I feel guilty about moaning about who should or shouldn't be in the main event at Wrestlemania it seems so unimportant. Think everyone should just sit back and enjoy the show


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,441 ✭✭✭✭briany


    https://twitter.com/TheScotty2Hotty/status/581985069859999745
    In Dec. 99, 3 guys that were pretty much obsolete in the wrestling biz came together and made each other. 1 apparently doesn't remember that

    That's pretty f*cked up. So Rikishi comes out to the 2Cool music, one of the Usos does the Worm and he gives not a single mention of the tag team that without their association he wouldn't have even gotten to the Hall of Fame? He was a struggling mid-carder at best before he hooked up with 2Cool, who were already fairly over. He thanked Gangrel, though, but that was part of a plug for his training school. I don't know if Rikishi realised all this, but it's hard to believe he didn't because he was reading from a prepared speech.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    x-pac looked high as a kite at the end:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    On Rikishi
    It was pretty fcuking dumb crap out of him and showed a lack of class

    On Larry
    What a speech, basically 15/20 minutes of how much he loved Bruno and that's it.. Dunno if he's married kids or anything but jeez a few lines about everyone else would've been nice

    Watched up to macho and couldn't be arsed watching arnie or mash


  • Registered Users Posts: 531 ✭✭✭den87


    Reading these pages is making me think of subscribing to the network just for the HOF

    Must.....resist.....the.....urge.

    I didnt resist the urge and the HOF was worth the 12.99 alone. Great quality too i must say.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    Madusa was the best part of it. Awesome speech.

    Rikishi snubbing Too Cool is incredibly classless imo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 531 ✭✭✭den87


    Moneymaker wrote: »
    Madusa was the best part of it. Awesome speech.

    Rikishi snubbing Too Cool is incredibly classless imo.

    Madusa was great, had to take a break after Connors induction, it was an emotional thing to watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    Did Zybzsko think he was inducting Sammartino? :D

    Other than that one it was a really good show. Conor's dad held up really well. Medusa's speech was very good and The Bushwhackers were good fun.

    Did Stephanie and Linda disappear before Macho's induction? They seemed to have been there up to that point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    brinty wrote: »
    On Rikishi
    It was pretty fcuking dumb crap out of him and showed a lack of class

    On Larry
    What a speech, basically 15/20 minutes of how much he loved Bruno and that's it.. Dunno if he's married kids or anything but jeez a few lines about everyone else would've been nice

    Watched up to macho and couldn't be arsed watching arnie or mash


    You really should, it's a great show.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Got there at last


    Enjoyable watch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,882 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    Just watched the main inductions online, I taught Hogan was gonna induct himself at one stage, Nash was funny, i enjoyed that, and then i watched connor's warrior award segment, and lads all i'll say is, that was unbelievable.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Gerry Rio


    The Not So Cool

    1) Hogan does it again. All that bullsh*t about "Hulkamania hadnt reached the heights it did before Macho Man" were nearly enough to make me switch it off there and then. Was he forgeting Wrestlemania 3 and been one of the most recgonisable faces in the world upto then?

    2) No mention of Elizabeth.

    The Horrible

    The Smarky crowd treating certain parts of the night with no respect. The guy who started a chant in the middle of Conor's Dad's speech should have been kicked in the balls.

    The Funny

    Bushwackers going on after the strong emotion of Conor was great scheduling. Even Bret Hart showed his annual sense of humour.

    The Strangely funny

    Larry Zbyszko having an existential crisis smile.png

    The "Hmmmm!"


    1) I cant quite put my finger on it but there's something not quite there about Dana Warrior's performance. It was almost actress like in places.

    2) It is amazing that Conor received an award and the speeches were all very touching. But the Warrior said last year that it was an award for the people who worked behind the scenes, like Jim Johnston, they completely edited his speech out of context to suit themselves

    The Not So Great

    1) Diesel going on last. Oh fcuk off Vince. Its questionable enough that one of your top 3 worst ever champions goes into the HOF at all, let alone goes on last, Luckily I fell asleep after Macho Man's induction.

    2) No mention of Too Cool by Rikishi. This is more in the "not so cool" category as I think the IWC are over reacting just a tad. Its Too Cool FFS.

    The Great

    1) Alundra/Medusa. Give this woman a new job in WWE stat. She'd be like the female Paul Heyman.

    2) Bryan's turning the crowd from a "Daniel Bryan" chant to a "Thank you Conor!" one in seconds and his speech in general.

    3) The booing of Reigns. If he wins tonight it should be very interesting indeed.

    4) WWE giving an hour to dedicate to Conor The Crusher. It was almost over the top, I thought at one stage they were going to bring out kittens and cute dogs, but it was enough to shine the spotlight on a remarkable kid with a great attitude.

    Funniest comment on Reddit


    "If you play Rikishi's Samoan speech backwards it says 'Love satan. Join the navy"


    1399308846953.jpg


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    @Gerry Rio The best post on the thread but don't agree with the booing of Reigns


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Gerry Rio


    Tugboats wrote: »
    @Gerry Rio The best post on the thread but don't agree with the booing of Reigns


    They have put him in a very awkward position that he's at least a year away from being ready for. But at the same time he is coming across as a bit of a dickhead in non WWE interviews.

    His evil stares at the camera last night when they focussed it on him say it all for me. He doesnt want to attention because he's not ready for it.

    Unless! He is turning with Heyman later. Those stares would go great with a heel side to him.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    Gerry Rio wrote: »
    They have put him in a very awkward position that he's at least a year away from being ready for. But at the same time he is coming across as a bit of a dickhead in non WWE interviews.

    His evil stares at the camera last night when they focussed it on him say it all for me. He doesnt want to attention because he's not ready for it.

    Unless! He is turning with Heyman later. Those stares would go great with a heel side to him.

    They can boo him tonight that's fine but shouldn't be booing him or anyone at the hall of fame. The HOF will end up becoming a non fan event. Did you hear the clown who shouted at Madusa to take her dress off?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    Questioning Nash's place in the Hall of Fame is laughable, frankly.

    I don't like the guy very much but he was a dominant champion. Not his fault WWE was ice cold at the time. And he was heavily involved in the greatest faction of all time and sparked Wrestling's hottest period ever. He absolutely should be in.

    I guess he went in last as they didn't want to close with a deceased member. Fair enough imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,432 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Couple things I found interesting:
    Daniel Bryan saying how he started saying "No!" because they didn't like how the fans were chanting for him.
    Steph and HHH were mentioned frequently as being great helping people out and supporting them, yet nothing like that for Vince, that I noticed.

    Connor's dad must've made some people feel awkward by mentioning Justin Roberts being great to him

    Did laugh at HHH making fun of his own nose for a change.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Gerry Rio


    Tugboats wrote: »
    They can boo him tonight that's fine but shouldn't be booing him or anyone at the hall of fame. The HOF will end up becoming a non fan event. Did you hear the clown who shouted at Madusa to take her dress off?

    They shouldnt be booing anyone who is either speaking or is been inducted. Anything else is fair game. Its a Wrestling HOF after all, booing is part of the theatre.

    I will agree with the crowd in parts been spoiled by a section of ****. Didnt they have a sign saying "Any catcall behaviour will result in ejection"? It obviously wasnt followed up on.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Gerry Rio


    Moneymaker wrote: »
    Questioning Nash's place in the Hall of Fame is laughable, frankly.

    I don't like the guy very much but he was a dominant champion. Not his fault WWE was ice cold at the time. And he was heavily involved in the greatest faction of all time and sparked Wrestling's hottest period ever. He absolutely should be in.

    I guess he went in last as they didn't want to close with a deceased member. Fair enough imo.

    No. He was a laughable champion frankly. All he did was fit in with Vince's "I like big guys" (unless they're HBK, ahem) rule of a WWE champion.

    He was the last announced member of this year's HOF, almost like an afterthought. Put him in the section of the HOF just above the Koko B Ware Wing if you must, but please dont tell me he deseves any major plaudits.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,126 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Rikishi takes over from Koko B Ware for me now as the waste of a space in the HoF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Steph and HHH were mentioned frequently as being great helping people out and supporting them, yet nothing like that for Vince, that I noticed.

    Shawn joked that he might get in trouble for mentioning Vince, but in a way that suggested he was told not to mention him. Seems people were told not to mention him for whatever reason.

    I don't get the criticism of Rikishi. I loved him as a kid and he was one of the biggest stars of 2000 when WWE was at it's peak. The crowd absolutely loved him and his matches were always entertaining. Go back and watch any of his matches from before his heel turn and see how popular he was.

    I agree it wasn't for very long, but he did have a decent career outside of that.

    It's about being memorable, and Rikishi is definitely one of the most memorable characters of that era.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    the Rikishi hate comes solely from him not even acknowledging the rest of Too Cool in his speech


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,131 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    the Rikishi hate comes solely from him not even acknowledging the rest of Too Cool in his speech
    Kinda yeah. I mean he didn't have to make a huge deal of them in the speech, but to not mention them at all is pretty crappy on his part.


  • Registered Users Posts: 415 ✭✭Alexis Sanchez


    Does anyone know what the crowd shouted out near the end of Nash's speech?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,036 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    It think we'll see many more Rikishis in the years to come. I really don't know why they insisted on having so many go in every year.

    If you look at anyone that has held the WWE title every huge name up to the late 90s that held it has gone in.

    Are marquee name gonna but less and less in the years to come. Realistic bonafide head liners within the next five/six years? Taker, Trips, Rock, Angle, Sting, Show, Kane? Gonna be a lot of numbers to make up in the not to distant future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Sirsok


    Say Paul Heyman will be a main event name to go in. Brock to


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Vince weirdness at the Hall of Fame:
    While the WWE Hall of Fame received awesome reviews from everyone here at PWInsider.com, I am told that behind the scenes, it was not as well received. WWE management felt the show ran far too long and that it wasn't exciting enough. While it was a long night, I disagree on the latter as I felt there was a lot of legitimately wonderful speeches.
    WWE requested that several cut their speeches short, which did happen with Kevin Nash, Shawn Michaels and Ric Flair.

    WWE pushed hard to have Kevin Nash go into the WWE Hall of Fame as Diesel but Nash was having none of that. Nash wanted to go in under his real name so that whatever additional credibility the WWE HOF brought to his outside endeavors, he could use it. I was also told that Nash didn't want to go in under Diesel since for years the narrative was that he was one of the worst drawing WWF champions and now wasn't going to allow himself to be celebrated under that name for that reason. WWE tried to push Nash to cancel his late night Wrestlemania Shenanigans party but he refused.

    I was told that several long-time executives, including Vince McMahon, weren't happy about the talk about how Kevin Nash helped transformed the business with all the guaranteed contracts since the feeling at the time was WCW was out to put WWF out of business and that since McMahon took it so personally at the time, this brought up a lot of old angry feelings on a night where things are supposed to be more celebratory.

    Shawn Michaels wasn't kidding when he said on stage he was going to end up in trouble as the company wasn't happy with his use of the word "strap" and "wrestler" during his speech. Michaels legitimately tore his prepared speech up and was going off the top of his head when he inducted Nash.

    The company wasn't thrilled with Madusa's use of expletives and some weren't happy about Eric Bischoff getting put over.

    The company absolutely loved The Bushwhackers speech, feeling it was the perfect meshing of their "on camera" characters and telling old stories.

    Credit: PWInsider


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,874 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    The desire to put down WCW at every opportunity during the HHH-Sting match might have been a reaction from Vince to all of the above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    The company can go and f*ck off on this front to be honest. 'Strap' and 'wrestler', get over it. Anyone who watched the HOF or who is at it is 100% in the know when it comes to the business. DX/nWo/Kliq are known for being rebels, let them off for one more night.

    Madusa's threw a sanctioned title in the trash on live TV, they can hardly be suprised. She was great anyway, a lot more attitude than she ever showed on WWE. She's a cool lady. One of the most entertainer speeches I can recall.

    Always felt the Bushwhackers were half a second away from cursing ha. Another good speech.


  • Registered Users Posts: 838 ✭✭✭A Rogue Hobo


    rovert wrote: »
    Vince weirdness at the Hall of Fame:



    Credit: PWInsider

    Pretty much all of that just makes me love Nash even more. He's hilarious and doesn't seem to suffer fools gladly. Of all the people in the wrestling industry that I would love to have a pint with it would be Nash, hands down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    They put more people than ever into the hall of fame and three people had speeches for one, and then they are surprised it went longer than three hours which everyone except them predicted. It's bad planning on their side.

    The other stuff is so petty but delighted that its guys like Michaels and Nash who they can't say anything to due to their status.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    As for Bischoff, WWE brought him in for a few years so that was something of an endorsement. Can't believe he still holds a grudge after all these years.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,036 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    That "strap" and "wrestler" thing are beyond stupid.

    99% of people that watch the HOF are "wrestling" fans. Vince, no matter how much you shove sports entertainment down our throat, for some wrestling is still wrestling.

    When Bret Hart was putting on a techinal masterclass that was wrestling.

    When Brock and Angle were going hold for hold that was wrestling.

    Hell when The Bushwackers walked like baffoons and licked heads or Stone Cold drove the Zamboni into the arena or Mankind staged this is your life...THAT even was wrestling. Why is it such a dirty word.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Chris Jericho calls out the assholes who were cat calling and doing the horrible what chant at the HOF ceremony.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,468 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Chris Jericho calls out the assholes who were cat calling and doing the horrible what chant at the HOF ceremony.


    He's 100% right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,491 ✭✭✭thebostoncrab


    100%, it's why I hate them putting the HoF in big arenas; it brings the greater chance of idiots trying to get themselves over. The worse by far was that twat who kept trying to start a chance during Conor's fathers speech, which even rattled the poor man at one stage. I actually shouted at my screen "Oh shut the **** up you idiot". Myself and a few mates think there should be a strict dress code to be allowed in to the ceremony. Combined with a small venue it would drive away most of these idiots I'm sure of it.


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