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Call to pay maths graduates bonus to go into teaching

  • 12-01-2015 4:12pm
    #1
    iptba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,904 ✭✭✭


    From today's Irish Times:
    Call to pay maths graduates bonus to go into teaching
    Sub-heading: Concern over qualifications of maths teachers despite upskilling programme

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/call-to-pay-maths-graduates-bonus-to-go-into-teaching-1.2062310

    Interesting facts:
    “The UK gives grants to maths graduates of the order of £5,000 in order to pursue a teaching qualification. We should do something similar.”
    Along with the UK, the US paid a premium for maths teachers, and Prof Hurley said a similar incentive was needed here to improve the quality of maths teaching in schools.


Comments

  • #2
    doc_17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,103 ✭✭✭doc_17


    One of the reasons they have to pay them more in the uk and us is that it's such an unattractive job in those countries.


  • #3
    bnt
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    Why only Maths graduates, when most STEM graduates could do the job as well? You hardly need the most advanced Calculus qualifications to teach high school Maths ...

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  • #4
    Blackpanther95
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    bnt wrote: »
    Why only Maths graduates, when most STEM graduates could do the job as well? You hardly need the most advanced Calculus qualifications to teach high school Maths ...
    Well in practice that turns out to be true. But I often remember asking my maths teacher questions that he couldn't answer, and a engineer or scientist probably wouldn't be able to answer them either. True an engineer might have good calculus but what about number theory-very poor I would imagine. Nothing better than a teacher who can answer question beyond the course (like my biology teacher :) )


  • #5
    ILikeBananas
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    Blackpanther95 wrote: »
    True an engineer might have good calculus but what about number theory-very poor I would imagine. Nothing better than a teacher who can answer question beyond the course (like my biology teacher :) )

    I reckon the average engineeringgraduate will have a far better handle on maths in general than the average biology graduate.


  • #6
    Iwasfrozen
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    iptba wrote: »
    From today's Irish Times:


    Interesting facts:
    Making the course 1 year again would be more enticing than 5k tbh.


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  • #7
    gammy_knees
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Making the course 1 year again would be more enticing than 5k tbh.
    Maybe the chance of actually getting a job at the end of 2 years would be more enticing instead of getting a few hours here and there or the prospect of emigrating to UK, Dubai, Oz....!


    Investing in becoming a maths teacher in Ireland = poor prospects.

    And for any graduates out there; would the €30,702 starting salary attract any of you (btw, that is if you get full hours)? Average ind wage is around €36,000.


  • #8
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    gammy_knees wrote: »
    Maybe the chance of actually getting a job at the end of 2 years would be more enticing instead of getting a few hours here and there or the prospect of emigrating to UK, Dubai, Oz....!


    Investing in becoming a maths teacher in Ireland = poor prospects.

    And for any graduates out there; would the €30,702 starting salary attract any of you (btw, that is if you get full hours)? Average ind wage is around €36,000.
    The lower wages are fine if that's what you want to do but the small chance of actually getting a job is what turns most people away I would imagine. The whole industry is over subscribed.


  • #9
    Blackpanther95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭Blackpanther95


    ILikeBananas wrote: »
    I reckon the average engineeringgraduate will have a far better handle on maths in general than the average biology graduate.

    Lol, I meant biology graduate to teaching biology hahahaha


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