The missing air asia flight

ShortyGotLow

And MH370. Planes just vanishing into thin air in these regions. Anyone have any thoughts on these? Planes being sucked out of the sky, testing experimental technology, perhaps aliens?

mickdw

ShortyGotLow wrote: »

And MH370. Planes just vanishing into thin air in these regions. Anyone have any thoughts on these? Planes being sucked out of the sky, testing experimental technology, perhaps aliens?

Mh 370. ....... very dodgy.
Latest air Asia. .......storm.

martingriff

mickdw wrote: »

Mh 370. ....... very dodgy.
Latest air Asia. .......storm.

I say in the case of MH370 its a case of deviated off course such a big sea its like trying to find a particular spec of sand in the desert

The Air Asia was just unfortunatly a very bad storm

pfurey101

Looks like no aliens or sucking out of sky test equipment. Sorry.

DamagedTrax

AirAsia CEO Tony Fernandes dumped 944,800 shares in Tune Insurance Holdings Bhd, the organization that provides travel insurance for AirAsia passengers, just days before the disappearance of Flight QZ8501.

this is all over google today. seems to be verified, with a lot of specific detail such as amounts and dates of the sales.

kind of odd, although it wouldn't be the first time an investor miraculously dumped stocks days before a disaster.

Guy:Incognito

DamagedTrax wrote: »

this is all over google today. seems to be verified, with a lot of specific detail such as amounts and dates of the sales.

kind of odd, although it would be the first time an investor miraculously dumped stocks days before a disaster.

How many other times have people dumped (or plain old "sold" when it cant be linked to something nefarious) stocks without there being a disaster of some kind in the industry shortly after? Every day?

DamagedTrax

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

How many other times have people dumped (or plain old "sold" when it cant be linked to something nefarious) stocks without there being a disaster of some kind in the industry shortly after? Every day?

yea, but the CEO dumping that amount of stock the days before? whether it means anything or not it deserves a little looking into?

just as those who gambled on american airlines' put options the days before 9/11. things like this may lead nowhere but i would hope someone looks into it all the same.

pfurey101

So I guess Fernandes knew that one of his aircraft was going to get caught in a storm related disaster and despite (probably) buying and selling shares all the time in the myriad of businesses that he owns and knowing that there was full visibility in these sales transactions (as he didnt try to sell as a third or fourth party, offshore, nebulous type of agent) decided to make a quick buck?

Eh?

tricky D

Sold the shares to prop up Queens Park Rangers in the transfer window. Redknapp and Fernandes had a transfer summit out east a week before Christmas and some of the targets will be pricey investments, but less pricey than QPR getting relegated. Basic business and in the news before the incident.

DamagedTrax

pfurey101 wrote: »

So I guess Fernandes knew that one of his aircraft was going to get caught in a storm related disaster and despite (probably) buying and selling shares all the time in the myriad of businesses that he owns and knowing that there was full visibility in these sales transactions (as he didnt try to sell as a third or fourth party, offshore, nebulous type of agent) decided to make a quick buck?

Eh?

thats quite a leap from me saying it should be looked into.

Guy:Incognito

DamagedTrax wrote: »

thats quite a leap from me saying it should be looked into.

Not really. You didn't say why you think it should be looked in to , just pulled the pin on the vague accusation grenade and lobbed it.

What do YOU think he knew about in advance and what was the advantage to selling the shares rather than say, preventing the crash he new was going to happen (which must be what your getting at surely? )

degrassinoel

This is a conspiracy theory forum, if you're not interested in contributing to a genuine discussion on the presented theories, don't bother posting here.

DamagedTrax

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Not really. You didn't say why you think it should be looked in to , just pulled the pin on the vague accusation grenade and lobbed it.

What do YOU think he knew about in advance and what was the advantage to selling the shares rather than say, preventing the crash he new was going to happen (which must be what your getting at surely? )

im not getting at anything, im suggesting that his financial affairs in the lead up to the tragedy are quite coincidental and shouldnt be ignored.

and it 100% should be looked into. in every tragedy where there is 'coincidental' financial gain by a related party, it needs to be investigated. if only to rule out any foul play.

do you think if your partner died in tragic circumstances, and you were about to get a large insurance pay out, that you wouldnt be investigated? (if even only a cursory glance?).

Beano

DamagedTrax wrote: »

yea, but the CEO dumping that amount of stock the days before? whether it means anything or not it deserves a little looking into?

just as those who gambled on american airlines' put options the days before 9/11. things like this may lead nowhere but i would hope someone looks into it all the same.

when you say "that amount" why do you think the amount sold is in any way worthy of remark? you do realise that is amount to less than 1% of the companies stock dont you?

Calibos

degrassinoel wrote: »

This is a conspiracy theory forum, if you're not interested in contributing to a genuine discussion on the presented theories, don't bother posting here.

I clicked in here from the front page. I was scratching my head why it was pFurey101 that was getting the red cards and not those posting the CT's.

Thanks for making me realise my mistake. I thought I was reading a thread in the Aviation forum. No wonder the mod hammer was falling on the 'wrong' posters

Guy:Incognito

DamagedTrax wrote: »

im not getting at anything, im suggesting that his financial affairs in the lead up to the tragedy are quite coincidental and shouldnt be ignored.

How can you say that and not be getting at anything? If you say he deliberately dumped the stock then you have to be implying he knew something was coming.

DamagedTrax

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

How can you say that and not be getting at anything? If you say he deliberately dumped the stock then you have to be implying he knew something was coming.

im saying it should be looked into whether he deliberately dumped it or not as would be normal in these situations. i'd be very surprised if it hasnt been or is currently being investigated... whatever the outcome.

Beano

DamagedTrax wrote: »

im saying it should be looked into whether he deliberately dumped it or not as would be normal in these situations. i'd be very surprised if it hasnt been or is currently being investigated... whatever the outcome.

but why would anybody bother to dump such a small amount of stock? Approx €350,000 of stock is peanuts to these people. and the price of the stock sold has risen since it was sold. I dont see what there is to investigate.

DamagedTrax

Beano wrote: »

but why would anybody bother to dump such a small amount of stock? Approx €350,000 of stock is peanuts to these people. and the price of the stock sold has risen since it was sold. I dont see what there is to investigate.

its actually about MR2.5mill at todays price of 2.74 and it managed to drop 12.5% after the plane disappeared, so about 700,000euro.

so yeah, not a huge amount. i'd initially read it as €2.5mill. my bad.

Beano

DamagedTrax wrote: »

its actually about MR2.5mill at todays price of 2.74 and it managed to drop 12.5% after the plane disappeared, so about 700,000euro.

so yeah, not a huge amount. i'd initially read it as €2.5mill. my bad.

i got my info from here http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/business/article/airasias-tony-fernandes-sells-shares-in-tune-insurance

The price drop was in the price of shares of the airline itself. the shares sold were in an insurance company. shares in the insurance company have risen since the plane disappeared. the sale of these shares is just a distraction from the tragic loss of life.

Beano

the dark phantom wrote: »

Just putting this out there..
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/12/busted-airasia-ceo-tony-fernandes-dumped-944800-shares-1-day-before-flight-disappeared-video-3084488.html

Bonus read at bottom of page.. Was Jimmy Saville a wizard ??

please try and read the thread before posting. we have already discussed this. Unless you have something new to add?

the dark phantom

Beano wrote: »

please try and read the thread before posting. we have already discussed this. Unless you have something new to add?

If you don't like it, Then report it !! :pac:

degrassinoel

the dark phantom wrote: »

If you don't like it, Then report it !! :pac:

hilarious..

Next time, read the thread before posting old news. It's two pages long ffs..
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stuar

The plane crashed on the 28th December, a mysterious post appeared on a Chinese forum on the 15th December, a little strange to say the least.

I'll translate the post and add a link to the original, did somebody know about AirAsia a few days before the event?

Translation:
time: 2014-12-15 20:15:00

International Black Hand and the Malaysia Airlines MH370 Malaysia Airlines MH17 after the hijacking and shot down, as the world's sixth-largest airline Ma Hangji this collapse, in a lethargic state 　　now, the big black hand again targeted in AirAsia, as always, you must destroy the AirAsia as part of Malaysia's AirAsia also 　　in view of the Black Hand forces too powerful, too vicious heart, suggested that the Chinese passenger travel, away from AirAsia, do not become a victim of another MH370


Original:

http://bbs.tianya.cn/post-worldlook-1339619-1.shtml



EditEdit:

I've also read the plane climbed faster than normally possible, while the alarms screamed as the pilots tried to control it, maybe somebody playing with a remote control?

AirAsia QZ8501: Jet alarms 'screaming' before crash, says investigator
The revelation came a day after Indonesian Transport Minister Ignasius Jonan said that the plane had climbed abnormally fast before stalling and plunging into the sea, during a flight on December 28 in stormy weather from Indonesia's Surabaya to Singapore.
http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015/01/21/AirAsia-QZ8501-alarms-screaming/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MfBka9CCBs