strava question

Amprodude

I am a member of strava with lots of followers. What I want to do is hide my training from some of these followers, reason is Im sick of people saying to me what im doing on the bike and then talking about me behind my back regards training. What they dont know wont trouble them and for myself I would prefer it that way.

I set up a new anonymous username and email with strava and was thinking of using this to see my training myself and uploading my rides without having followers seeing or knowing about the rides.

The question I have is if members of my club are doing the same route as me on club spins, then my username will appear on their strava and they will figure out after a while that it is me, especially if there are only 3-4 people on a spin and i'm one of them. Is there anyway of stopping this completely?

All I want to see are my spins without anyone else being able to see them.

Thanks you in advance.

wirelessdude01

What do you get from strava that the likes of the garmin site doesn't give you? I know plenty of top Irish cyclists who no longer use strava either at all or for the majority of their spin for one reason or another but do upload their spins to other places for analysis.

Is the main issue for you that people are saying you are under/over training? Personally I find it great that more experienced members of my club can for want of a better word advise me on things based on what they see on my strava profile.

Amprodude

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

What do you get from strava that the likes of the garmin site doesn't give you? I know plenty of top Irish cyclists who no longer use strava either at all or for the majority of their spin for one reason or another but do upload their spins to other places for analysis.

Is the main issue for you that people are saying you are under/over training? Personally I find it great that more experienced members of my club can for want of a better word advise me on things based on what they see on my strava profile.

I just dont want some people there knowing what im doing, I want to be private and more of a dark horse.

I dont like the layout of garmin connect. I like the way Strava is laid out but like you said I may have to revert back to garmin connect.

Solobally8

Maybe use training peaks?

Sinbad_NI

Make your rides private?

inc21

Thats a sign of turning pro! Plenty of riders who start to take it too seriously will be hit with this paranoia that everybody looking and talking about their training.

If you are worried tho just mark your rides as private as soon as you upload.

mal1

Amprodude wrote: »

I am a member of strava with lots of followers. What I want to do is hide my training from some of these followers, reason is Im sick of people saying to me what im doing on the bike and then talking about me behind my back regards training. What they dont know wont trouble them and for myself I would prefer it that way.

I set up a new anonymous username and email with strava and was thinking of using this to see my training myself and uploading my rides without having followers seeing or knowing about the rides.

The question I have is if members of my club are doing the same route as me on club spins, then my username will appear on their strava and they will figure out after a while that it is me, especially if there are only 3-4 people on a spin and i'm one of them. Is there anyway of stopping this completely?

All I want to see are my spins without anyone else being able to see them.

Thanks you in advance.

Sorry but is this a question or discussion/moan. If it's a question then type strava and private into google and your answer is the first hit.

Amprodude

mal1 wrote: »

Sorry but is this a question or discussion/moan. If it's a question then type strava and private into google and your answer is the first hit.

Didn't come across it mate so that's why I asked here. I think my best option is to use garmin connect. This question I asked doesn't seem as simple as I thought it could be.

inc21

it's all the mulled wine and/or eggnog. Merry something something!

Amprodude

inc21 wrote: »

Thats a sign of turning pro! Plenty of riders who start to take it too seriously will be hit with this paranoia that everybody looking and talking about their training.

If you are worried tho just mark your rides as private as soon as you upload.

Im not a pro but I am serious about my training. I have taken it to another level personally, with that change, i don't want other people talking about what I'm doing and they will be the first to laugh if things don't go to plan in 2015. I have a few goals in mind but nobody on strava knows what they are and I'm not telling anyone either. I have been asked by few club members what are my goals and I haven't let them know. All I say is I want to improve my cycling. Doesn't get anymore basic as that. I will disappear off Strava me thinks for 2015 and go on garmin connect instead. Happy New Year All.

inc21

I use trainigpeaks (free) along with strava. Great for notes about the sessions and few other nice features.

wirelessdude01

Amprodude wrote: »

Im not a pro but I am serious about my training. I have taken it to another level personally, with that change, i don't want other people talking about what I'm doing and they will be the first to laugh if things don't go to plan in 2015. I have a few goals in mind but nobody on strava knows what they are and I'm not telling anyone either. I have been asked by few club members what are my goals and I haven't let them know. All I say is I want to improve my cycling. Doesn't get anymore basic as that. I will disappear off Strava me thinks for 2015 and go on garmin connect instead. Happy New Year All.

Just one thing to remember, sometimes it is good to have a team with you for when you need a digout. Cocooning yourself away from them and essentially being a bit aloof means they won't help you when and it will happen, when you need their help. Just something to have a little think about.

Leroy42

Why not tell them your goals? They are your club mates and may be able to point you in the right direction.

No need to go around telling everyone, but a few select guys in your club. They will probably have the same goals/have done the same in the past and can help you out.

I do understand that cycling is an individual sport, but it always amazes me how little teamwork in done within clubs. From simply getting a plan together for a race of you in the lead rider etc.

You said that you don't want to tell people in case they laugh if you don't succeed. The opposite is also true. As you aren't involving anybody else why would they care what you achieve, they will put it down to luck. By telling other people you are planting a destination down, you now need to live up to that.

Seems to me you are starting off on the wrong foot. Why would you be scared you can't do it? Seems like you need to believe in yourself a bit more.

The whole point of Strava is to enable people to judge themselves against more than just their club run mates, you don't have to put everything up there. And even if you do, it only tells part of the story. It tells nothing of the non cycling work you are doing. Core work, diet, gym, swimming/running etc. It tells nothing of the nutrition, the stretching, rest, how how hard your day-to-day job is.

I see guys putting in '000's of kms more than me but without going deep into each ride they do it is hard to know the level of intensity they are doing.

wirelessdude01

Leroy42 wrote: »

Why not tell them your goals? They are your club mates and may be able to point you in the right direction.

No need to go around telling everyone, but a few select guys in your club. They will probably have the same goals/have done the same in the past and can help you out.

I do understand that cycling is an individual sport, but it always amazes me how little teamwork in done within clubs. From simply getting a plan together for a race of you in the lead rider etc.

You said that you don't want to tell people in case they laugh if you don't succeed. The opposite is also true. As you aren't involving anybody else why would they care what you achieve, they will put it down to luck. By telling other people you are planting a destination down, you now need to live up to that.

Seems to me you are starting off on the wrong foot. Why would you be scared you can't do it? Seems like you need to believe in yourself a bit more.

The whole point of Strava is to enable people to judge themselves against more than just their club run mates, you don't have to put everything up there. And even if you do, it only tells part of the story. It tells nothing of the non cycling work you are doing. Core work, diet, gym, swimming/running etc. It tells nothing of the nutrition, the stretching, rest, how how hard your day-to-day job is.

I see guys putting in '000's of kms more than me but without going deep into each ride they do it is hard to know the level of intensity they are doing.

So so true.

J Madone

Tell people your goals, much harder to back out of it then. Keep it in mind when your in the middle of a tough block of training.
I don't put most of my interval training up on strava public view. There is a private click option when your uploading. It is beside where you name your session.
Most people wont care what training your doing, too busy looking after their own!

Lumen

The women are stalking you.

That's what becomes of a dark horse.

ted1

Endomondo is a good alternative

jinkypolly

Amprodude wrote: »

I just dont want some people there knowing what im doing, I want to be private and more of a dark horse.

Sinbad_NI wrote: »

Make your rides private?

inc21 wrote: »

If you are worried tho just mark your rides as private as soon as you upload.

mal1 wrote: »

If it's a question then type strava and private into google and your answer is the first hit.

I think you should MARK YOUR RIDES AS PRIVATE.

on_the_nickel

- He's a dark horse, isn't he, eh?
- Who?
- Black Beauty.

Peterx

I don't like them. How in the name of grud is getting 20 "KOM" little cups for a one hour slow windy cycle good?
It's surely no big deal that I happened to be the first this year to cycle through the start and end point of a segment.
Can I turn off 2015 KOM's ??

Kinet1c

Peterx wrote: »

I don't like them. How in the name of grud is getting 20 "KOM" little cups for a one hour slow windy cycle good?
It's surely no big deal that I happened to be the first this year to cycle through the start and end point of a segment.
Can I turn off 2015 KOM's ??

It's the first day of the year so there'll be a lot of segments laying unclaimed for the 2015 KOMs.

Amprodude

Leroy42 wrote: »

Why not tell them your goals? They are your club mates and may be able to point you in the right direction.

No need to go around telling everyone, but a few select guys in your club. They will probably have the same goals/have done the same in the past and can help you out.

I do understand that cycling is an individual sport, but it always amazes me how little teamwork in done within clubs. From simply getting a plan together for a race of you in the lead rider etc.

You said that you don't want to tell people in case they laugh if you don't succeed. The opposite is also true. As you aren't involving anybody else why would they care what you achieve, they will put it down to luck. By telling other people you are planting a destination down, you now need to live up to that.

Seems to me you are starting off on the wrong foot. Why would you be scared you can't do it? Seems like you need to believe in yourself a bit more.

The whole point of Strava is to enable people to judge themselves against more than just their club run mates, you don't have to put everything up there. And even if you do, it only tells part of the story. It tells nothing of the non cycling work you are doing. Core work, diet, gym, swimming/running etc. It tells nothing of the nutrition, the stretching, rest, how how hard your day-to-day job is.

I see guys putting in '000's of kms more than me but without going deep into each ride they do it is hard to know the level of intensity they are doing.

Because I don't trust some of them and even though they are my club they have said some nasty things behind my back eventhough they know I'm going well at present, they just want to knock me. Some are begrudgers in my club, why would I then tell them my goals? I hope I don't sound like I'm moaning here but this is what I'm dealing with. I just don't see why I should show them all my cards. Just a thought.

Lumen

Amprodude wrote: »

Because I don't trust some of them and even though they are my club they have said some nasty things behind my back even though they know I'm going well at present, they just want to knock me. Some are begrudgers in my club, why would I then tell them my goals? I hope I don't sound like I'm moaning here but this is what I'm dealing with. I just don't see why I should show them all my cards. Just a thought.

What you've written seems paranoid and neurotic.

At the risk of winding you up further I honestly think you should avoid using Strava if it makes you feel this way and consider doing things that may help you to feel more positive.

Amprodude

Lumen wrote: »

What you've written seems paranoid and neurotic.

At the risk of winding you up further I honestly think you should avoid using Strava if it makes you feel this way and consider doing things that may help you to feel more positive.

You are right about using Strava. I think I will stay off it and keep my mind healthy and focus on the year ahead and give it my best and do my best. Most of all I want to enjoy my cycling without considering what other people in the club are saying or thinking. At the moment letting that come between my cycling isnt helping me enjoy what essentially is a big part of my life. I have nothing without the cycling and I don't want to give up on something I really care about.

Junior

Amprodude wrote: »

You are right about using Strava. I think I will stay off it and keep my mind healthy and focus on the year ahead and give it my best and do my best. Most of all I want to enjoy my cycling without considering what other people in the club are saying or thinking. At the moment letting that come between my cycling isnt helping me enjoy what essentially is a big part of my life. I have nothing without the cycling and I don't want to give up on something I really care about.

Just use your existing account, mark your rides as private and enjoy your cycling. Ignore the arseholes in your club, work towards what you want and do it how you want. I rode some of the winter last year with my previous club and then once January came along I broke off and I did my own thing.

Some of the training I did during the year I marked private, some I didn't.

As for what your club "mates" are up to, find yourself a new club, there's plenty around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM

Leroy42

I think the problem is your club not Strava.

Seems like you would be better off finding a club that you can develop in, rather than what seems like a club based on clickes.

A club should be a place where each member can develop whatever talents they have, whether that is being an A1 or a sportive rider. In my experience (and that not saying too much) cycling clubs are not run like GAA/Soccer etc. Members are still pretty much solitary with a bit of winter group training thrown in. But that is a whole other thread

Inquitus

Leroy42 wrote: »

Members are still pretty much solitary with a bit of winter group training thrown in. But that is a whole other thread

Aye very few clubs ride together in races, Lucan did a good bit of it in A4 last year and really reaped the rewards, often times they didn't have the strongest riders in the race, but rode with a plan and set a lad up who was right for the finish, putting him in the right place, at the right time, with fresh legs, and more often than not got a decent result out of it.

Lusk_Doyle

I'm interested in the difference between what is being said to your face and being said behind your back. I'm also interested in why you are letting this get to you.

Inquitus

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

I'm interested in the difference between what is being said to your face and being said behind your back. I'm also interested in why you are letting this get to you.

We always had the good grace to tell you you cornered like a bus to your face

Lusk_Doyle

Inquitus wrote: »

We always had the good grace to tell you you cornered like a bus to your face

Ah yeah but you still couldn't catch me!

Amprodude

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

I'm interested in the difference between what is being said to your face and being said behind your back. I'm also interested in why you are letting this get to you.

I don't know if it's jealously or something I don't understand but some members in my club aren't doing the winter cycling and are then going saying to others that I'm mad doing all this base training. I firmly believe in base training in the winter months and getting my body right for racing season. I didn't do this last year or didn't prepare but this year after the racing season which finished in July for me I had a serious thought on what I need to do to get better. I was close in a few races of a podium finish and finished with 4 points in 4 races first season. I felt if I had been a bit fitter it could have been the difference. In September I started training doing base miles mixed with interval training during the week with gym work included. I'm going fairly well at present but am keeping something in reserve for my first race end of February. The other lads are a good bit off at the moment. Anyway the guys that are saying this about me are not cycling at all and only Started winter training this week. I have all that hard work done but Im more focused on continueing this. I want to do well this year and am prepared to do the best I can to achieve this. I'm doing out structured plans graphs and all.

Its getting to me because those certain individuals don't offer any encouragement but try to knock me down when they can. Sometimes it can get me down but
It's only 2-3 in the club and alot of the info they got was from what I put up on Strava. Strava is like my own individual self destruction button.

I can always mark my rides as private but then there are some people on Strava that I care about and who are genuinely interested in my progress and help and encourage me and I don't want to hide my rides on those people.

eeeee

Amprodude wrote: »

I don't know if it's jealously or something I don't understand but some members in my club aren't doing the winter cycling and are then going saying to others that I'm mad doing all this base training. I firmly believe in base training in the winter months and getting my body right for racing season. I didn't do this last year or didn't prepare but this year after the racing season which finished in July for me I had a serious thought on what I need to do to get better. I was close in a few races of a podium finish and finished with 4 points in 4 races first season. I felt if I had been a bit fitter it could have been the difference. In September I started training doing base miles mixed with interval training during the week with gym work included. I'm going fairly well at present but am keeping something in reserve for my first race end of February. The other lads are a good bit off at the moment. Anyway the guys that are saying this about me are not cycling at all and only Started winter training this week. I have all that hard work done but Im more focused on continueing this. I want to do well this year and am prepared to do the best I can to achieve this. I'm doing out structured plans graphs and all.

Its getting to me because those certain individuals don't offer any encouragement but try to knock me down when they can. Sometimes it can get me down but
It's only 2-3 in the club and alot of the info they got was from what I put up on Strava. Strava is like my own individual self destruction button.

I can always mark my rides as private but then there are some people on Strava that I care about and who are genuinely interested in my progress and help and encourage me and I don't want to hide my rides on those people.

To be brutally honest, it sounds like they just have different ideas than you about training and racing rather than being personal about it. No one is going to agree with you 100% of the time. You also don't know what's going on in people's lives, they may not be themselves.

Mainly, and I don't want to be mean or anything, but the only person who gives 2 shytes about what you do is you. We all live busy lives etc. Etc. And no one really cares what you do in reality. I sincerely doubt your training methods are being analysed/taken apart in great detail by anyone else, because, to be frank, no one really cares about what you do. I find it hard to think about all I have to and juggle day to day, nevermind even begining to think about what someone else is up to. There might be a bit of gossip, but to be honest it's in one ear and out the other. I can only speak for myself but I don't remember the half of the 'gossip' I hear. Given how percious most people's time is I expect they're the same, and ultimately don't have space to care about what you do or don't do in their lives.

Having said that some people are just dicks though and there's nothing you can do about that. I wouldn't let them change your behaviour one iota. Fcuk them. No matter what you do they'll be dicks so changing your methods isn't going to have the result you want, they'll always find something to cut about.

In short they're not slowing you down or dropping you from doing what you want to do so who cares? Leave them off. If you enjoy strava and find it helpful then i see no reason for you to change.

Kinet1c

Haters gonna hate. They feel threatened and are purposely being dismissive.

wirelessdude01

To be honest it just sounds like these people have different ideas about what winter training is, there are lads in our club who are going mad training(similar to what you seem to be doing), others who have been tipping along(mainly the senior lads who seem to know what they are doing) and those who haven't done much if any winter training. Every one is different.

To me you are creating issues where there really isn't anything, people gossip in every walk of life so either mark your rides as private, get off strava totally or just get on with it(what I would do).

rtmie

OP, I think yoou may be asking the wrong question. Whether you are being over-sensitive to some good natured joshing or the victim of malicous attempt by a few people to get at you, no-one on here can tell from this remove. One thing for sure though is wherever you have a collection of Irish people, be it a football club, cycling club, or book club you are sure to have one, other or both going on.

Play out what happens when you make your rides private, block people from viewing or whatever. These same people will be at you for being secretive, the sly lad or whatever, then that will be nagging at you.
You need to plan and do first and foremost on what you believe and feel, you are out training for you, not for others.

If your plan is based on research relative to your goals and you believe in it and feel it is helping you, then stick with it regardless of what others think. If you are enjoying your training and feeling happy after it, then same applies. (this is true for everything not just your cycle training).
Proof of the pudding will be in the eating, if it doesn't work out fully then you learn and tweak for future.

Given that there are many learned people on here (not incl me by the way ) wouldn't you be better asking questions to validate your training plan against your goals with some experienced boards people, or asking for advice on where you can get the info you need to validate your plan (although it sounds like you have done your research).
That would be a more constructive approach than worrying about what you are hearing from people whose opinions and motiviations you clearly don't trust.

Lusk_Doyle

Look pal, you're an A4 rider doing a few races locally or here and there around the country. You'd want to hear what they said about me for doing the national tt last year. Don't sweat the small stuff. Worry about your riding.

Edit: Don't actually worry about your riding. Enjoy it.