searches at dublin land registry

beaufoy

I purchased an apartment in dublin and decided to do the conveyancing myself, because the property was unregistered I have to do a search at the registry of deeds and the judgement office. I live at present in Thailand and have been told that I am allowed to do an official search in the registry of deeds by way of post, but I have to attend the office or get someone else to attend the office in order to get the judgement office search done. Has anyone got any ideas to get past this problem

Mr. Incognito

If its unregistered get a solicitor.

Seriously. You have zero chance of a diy first registration on unregistered title.

Do you even have the deeds?

You can get elis and elis or other searchers to do your searches but they are the least of your worries.

How are you going to draft the statement of title if you have no idea what you are doing?

beaufoy

Yes I do have the deeds and other papers and the stamp duty certificate. The apartment was in receivership and either the receivers or the vendors lawyers failed to collect the rent whilst the apartment was in receivership. This stupid mistake has caused a rent dispute with the tennants, but the vendor's solicitors deny liability for this mistake. Other mistakes were made by the vendor's solicitors but I believe I can correct said mistakes. Anyway I have no problem and asked for no help with the Conveyancing. The problem I have is that I am in Thailand and one of the searches has to be done in person at the Dublin Land Registry Judgement Office

braddun

http://www.prai.ie/

Hippo

The Land Registry does not have a Judgment Office. That'll be the Central Office of the High Court. Seriously, engage a solicitor or at least a reputable law searcher to carry out the searches on your behalf, the latter at least isn't expensive.

Mr. Incognito

beaufoy wrote: »

Yes I do have the deeds and other papers and the stamp duty certificate. The apartment was in receivership and either the receivers or the vendors lawyers failed to collect the rent whilst the apartment was in receivership. This stupid mistake has caused a rent dispute with the tennants, but the vendor's solicitors deny liability for this mistake. Other mistakes were made by the vendor's solicitors but I believe I can correct said mistakes. Anyway I have no problem and asked for no help with the Conveyancing. The problem I have is that I am in Thailand and one of the searches has to be done in person at the Dublin Land Registry Judgement Office

If you had a solicitor acting in the purchase they would have completed requisitions and checks which that showed up any problem issues such as non collection of rental income. The vendors solicitor owes you no duty of care or to ensure you had all these problems solved. In fact if it was unregistered there could be massive problems with the title that you would not have spotted.

The fact you are blaming the vendors solicitor for mistakes just shows how naive you are. They act for the vendor, not the buyer.

My guess is you are going to waste a year before you find you are out of your depth and it will cost several multiples more than what it would have saved you to spend 1000 on a solicitor first day when you purchased.

beaufoy

You are correct the Vendor Solicitor owes me no duty of care. However, he is expected to follow normal procedure. He also owes the Vendor a duty of care. The receivers are expected to collect as much funds as possible for the creditors, and the vendor solicitors are there to care for the vendor ie the receiver. Allowing the Tenant to avoid paying thousands of euros in rent is not exactly showing care for the mortgage bank or its share holders or its customers.
I never said the Vendor Solicitors owed me anything I said they made stupid mistakes

Mr. Incognito

beaufoy wrote: »

You are correct the Vendor Solicitor owes me no duty of care. However, he is expected to follow normal procedure. He also owes the Vendor a duty of care. The receivers are expected to collect as much funds as possible for the creditors, and the vendor solicitors are there to care for the vendor ie the receiver. Allowing the Tenant to avoid paying thousands of euros in rent is not exactly showing care for the mortgage bank or its share holders or its customers.
I never said the Vendor Solicitors owed me anything I said they made stupid mistakes

Look. You dont get it. The receivers dont care about rental income on a residential property which was probably in a block of twenty odd they sold that day.

The vendors solicitor is to make sure his client is not on the hook for anything he sells. For a receiver sale it means no warranties, very little disclosure so its up to the purchasers solicitor to do a proper due diligence.

If you did not have one you are going to learn a lesson which may be very very expensive.

Pat Mustard

The purchaser proposes to buy an unregistered title from a receiver. We are not aware of judgments that may need to be overreached or property taxes paid etc.

The OP had a query about searches and was told about Law Searchers, so his question was answered.

However, this site isn't going to be drawn into any fallout and/or litigation arising out of diy conveyancing, especially in the circumstances outlined. Thread closed.