Land transfer and solicitors fees

Kevin the sheep

Hi uncle is singing place over it in final stages and I got his solicitors bill yesterday and my mans bill on Friday now my solicitor did all the work all my uncles had to do was explain what was happening to my uncle and make sure it was all above board and he agreed with it all now to the bill my mans bill was €2100 my uncles solicitors bill was €3500+€100 phone and letters + tax/vat which baught it to €4500 or there about's is this right or is my solicitor just cheep

Deepsouthwest

Kevin the sheep wrote: »

Hi uncle is singing place over it in final stages and I got his solicitors bill yesterday and my mans bill on Friday now my solicitor did all the work all my uncles had to do was explain what was happening to my uncle and make sure it was all above board and he agreed with it all now to the bill my mans bill was €2100 my uncles solicitors bill was €3500+€100 phone and letters + tax/vat which baught it to €4500 or there about's is this right or is my solicitor just cheep

This would be normal for a lot of solicitors, as a lot of them are crooked money grabbing pricks! I'd ask for a breakdown of that bill, and the IFA legal team or ur own solicitor about it

lakill Farm

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

This would be normal for a lot of solicitors, as a lot of them are crooked money grabbing pricks! I'd ask for a breakdown of that bill, and the IFA legal team or ur own solicitor about it

normally the bill would be approx. €1600 to €2500 for both including outlays like telephone, postage and land registry and search fees

why didn't you ask for a quotation?

Sami23

Kevin the sheep wrote: »

Hi uncle is singing place over it in final stages and I got his solicitors bill yesterday and my mans bill on Friday now my solicitor did all the work all my uncles had to do was explain what was happening to my uncle and make sure it was all above board and he agreed with it all now to the bill my mans bill was €2100 my uncles solicitors bill was €3500+€100 phone and letters + tax/vat which baught it to €4500 or there about's is this right or is my solicitor just cheep

They are completely making a fool of you.

I got farm transferred into my name earlier this year. My solicitor coat 1300 and other solicitor cost 400 as my solicitor did all the work.

jerryg

Does the cost of transfer reflect the value of the farm land to be signed over?
In other words does it cost more to transfer a €1 million farm as opposed to a €200k farm?

Deepsouthwest

jerryg wrote: »

Does the cost of transfer reflect the value of the farm land to be signed over?
In other words does it cost more to transfer a €1 million farm as opposed to a €200k farm?

It shouldn't, but that's not to say it doesn't.

lakill Farm

jerryg wrote: »

Does the cost of transfer reflect the value of the farm land to be signed over?
In other words does it cost more to transfer a €1 million farm as opposed to a €200k farm?

the only small difference might be the number of Folio

be the value €500 or €5m the work is almost the same

Farmer Pudsey

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

This would be normal for a lot of solicitors, as a lot of them are crooked money grabbing pricks! I'd ask for a breakdown of that bill, and the IFA legal team or ur own solicitor about it

jerryg wrote: »

Does the cost of transfer reflect the value of the farm land to be signed over?
In other words does it cost more to transfer a €1 million farm as opposed to a €200k farm?

Legal billing is a minefield. I have heard of bills for transfers of 10k. Some try to charge a percentage of value of farm. Often 1-1.5%+ sundries +vat. They really take the micky. As bad as that is it is at probate that they really ride vunerable people. Often charging 5+% + vat for what are often fairly straight forward tranactions.

Any transfer like that should cost nom more than 2-3K+ vat. It is not rocket science rather straight forward convayencing. What really pisses me off is the way they try to charge for postage, photocopying, telephone calls and corrospondance. It happens in no other area of business where you quote a non inclusive price for day to day expensiture.

It like hiring a builder to build a house and he bills you for the blocks and the slates extra. It really gets in my goat. However I blame people who deal with them equally. Going in the door you ask the price and make sure the solicitor understands taht there are no day to day extras'. Now i understand you may have serch fees and taxes to pay these are unavoidable but billing you for va stamp he may or may not have used is taking the micky.

OP I go back to your uncle's solicitor and offer him the same as you are paying your own solicitor and tell him that is it. I expect that he will take it.

lakill Farm

I never paid for the telephone or postage my now ex solicitor use to charge.

I told him its his overheads to pay, not mine to pay. Or I would contra charge him for answering his calls or emails

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Legal billing is a minefield. I have heard of bills for transfers of 10k. Some try to charge a percentage of value of farm. Often 1-1.5%+ sundries +vat. They really take the micky. As bad as that is it is at probate that they really ride vunerable people. Often charging 5+% + vat for what are often fairly straight forward tranactions.

Any transfer like that should cost nom more than 2-3K+ vat. It is not rocket science rather straight forward convayencing. What really pisses me off is the way they try to charge for postage, photocopying, telephone calls and corrospondance. It happens in no other area of business where you quote a non inclusive price for day to day expensiture.

It like hiring a builder to build a house and he bills you for the blocks and the slates extra. It really gets in my goat. However I blame people who deal with them equally. Going in the door you ask the price and make sure the solicitor understands taht there are no day to day extras'. Now i understand you may have serch fees and taxes to pay these are unavoidable but billing you for va stamp he may or may not have used is taking the micky.

OP I go back to your uncle's solicitor and offer him the same as you are paying your own solicitor and tell him that is it. I expect that he will take it.

ABlur

Kevin the sheep wrote: »

Hi uncle is singing place over it in final stages and I got his solicitors bill yesterday and my mans bill on Friday now my solicitor did all the work all my uncles had to do was explain what was happening to my uncle and make sure it was all above board and he agreed with it all now to the bill my mans bill was €2100 my uncles solicitors bill was €3500+€100 phone and letters + tax/vat which baught it to €4500 or there about's is this right or is my solicitor just cheep

Hi OP, did the solicitor issue you a Section 68 letter to you outlining his fees in advance? I presume he knew you were discharging your Uncle's costs. He is legally required to issue this letter. If he didn't, (like my one didn't) then I suggest you ring around the competitors and get a quote for the work in question, pick the average of this quote and offer this to your Uncles man. Unless the transfer was very complicated I think his quote is off the Richter scale!

Kevin the sheep

lakill Farm wrote: »

normally the bill would be approx. €1600 to €2500 for both including outlays like telephone, postage and land registry and search fees

why didn't you ask for a quotation?

Thanks all my solicitor did all the work my uncles did sweet f all I didn't get quote coz he's just the family solicitor yes the transfer is all straight forward no complicated stuff so couldn't understand bill that high il ring the rest of the solicitors around me and see what they would charge for job and ring him back after that thanks all

Farrell

On land transfer did anyone come across an issue where land was willed but not registered to the new owner.
There has been a request from the Solicitors to have am OS may outlined by an engineer.
Would this be an Ag consultant? Or an Architect
Has anyone come across this before? There is outlined maps for SFP, to which we're told isn't suffice

Dont be daft

Kevin the sheep wrote: »

Hi uncle is singing place over it in final stages and I got his solicitors bill yesterday and my mans bill on Friday now my solicitor did all the work all my uncles had to do was explain what was happening to my uncle and make sure it was all above board and he agreed with it all now to the bill my mans bill was €2100 my uncles solicitors bill was €3500+€100 phone and letters + tax/vat which baught it to €4500 or there about's is this right or is my solicitor just cheep

Unfortunately it's true, most solicitors are thieving fcukers :mad:

I've dropped you an oul PM anyway, hope its of some help

ABlur

Farrell wrote: »

There has been a request from the Solicitors to have am OS may outlined by an engineer.
Would this be an Ag consultant? Or an Architect
Has anyone come across this before? There is outlined maps for SFP, to which we're told isn't suffice

A civil engineer will do this on an official land registry issued map. Think an architectural technician can also do it. Land registry will require such as map to register it if one doesnt already exist.

Farrell

ABlur wrote: »

A civil engineer will do this on an official land registry issued map. Think an architectural technician can also do it. Land registry will require such as map to register it if one doesnt already exist.

Thanks, there can be allot of you need to get this done, but no advice in where to go