Lame bull

Mad4simmental

We bought a blonde bull around 9 months ago. Cost a pretty penny to. He has served heifers and is a lovely young bull not even 3 yet.

So he's got very lame and we got a lad out to look at his feet and he said he has the feet of a 12 year old cow (very soft).

I was thinking of calling the lad we bought him off as he shouldn't be gone like this so young, and have herd that sum breeders stand over bulls for a year after the sale.

I no more want to call him about it no more than he wants to get the call about it. So just asking did anyone else have the same problem? What was the out come?

Am I wasting my time and just hang him and cut my losses?

Cheers

Limestone Cowboy

Mad4simmental wrote: »

We bought a blonde bull around 9 months ago. Cost a pretty penny to. He has served heifers and is a lovely young bull not even 3 yet.

So he's got very lame and we got a lad out to look at his feet and he said he has the feet of a 12 year old cow (very soft).

I was thinking of calling the lad we bought him off as he shouldn't be gone like this so young, and have herd that sum breeders stand over bulls for a year after the sale.

I no more want to call him about it no more than he wants to get the call about it. So just asking did anyone else have the same problem? What was the out come?

Am I wasting my time and just hang him and cut my losses?

Cheers

I'd be surprised if he stood over him, he wouldn't be obliged to anyway but you never know I guess. No harm to call but I wouldn't be expecting much in return..

Nettleman

what about your farm insurance ..maybe a "stockbull cover" or something

bogman_bass

He worked for you for a season successfully. I don't think you have a leg to stand on here

welton john

bogman_bass wrote: »

He worked for you for a season successfully. I don't think you have a leg to stand on here

no pun intended:D;)

orm0nd

would it be mineral deficiency ?

zinc, copper and i cant think of the other 1's

Mad4simmental

orm0nd wrote: »

would it be mineral deficiency ?

zinc, copper and i cant think of the other 1's

Shouldn't be. He got blouse and the bucket with the cows. I think he's just one of those bad luck fcukers!

onyerbikepat

A lot of young cattle get soft feet from meal overfeeding. The guy you got out to look at him, did he pair his feet? I'd be inclined to give him time and get a small bit of meal, with balanced minerals into him.
I bought a pedigree heifer a few years back that had soft enough feet when i bought her. I put it down to too much meal fed prior to seale to bring out her muscle. She is fine now, feet look good and hard.

KatyMac

Is there no supplements you can give him to harden his feet? I know that horses with soft feet can be improved. The fields where I keep my horses result in their feet ending up mighty hard (as far as the poor divil that has to trim them says) and it's something about what they are eating. Would the same work for cattle. My cattle never have sore feet as they outwinter on the same fields. It would be an awful shame if your bull had to be slaughtered especially if he was a good one if there was a simple cure.

orm0nd

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Shouldn't be. He got blouse and the bucket with the cows. I think he's just one of those bad luck fcukers!

was there zinc in them ??

too much unnecessary minerals is not recommended & can cause more harm than good

re onyerbikepat's post if fed high levels of meal , you notice several small lines running parallel on the hoof shell , it's one thing I always look out for when buying a bull

Mad4simmental

I sort of thought about him been pushed to much with to much meal but not sure he never got any here.

He got paired so I might hold onto him another while and see how he goes with a pick of meal.

welton john

Mad4simmental wrote: »

I sort of thought about him been pushed to much with to much meal but not sure he never got any here.

He got paired so I might hold onto him another while and see how he goes with a pick of meal.

Is it all four feet or one in particular?We used blue stone in a foothbath last summer, found it good.if it was just one foot would a shoe help?

J.O. Farmer

I see what's going on here. Mad4simmental saw some other lad in Mayo get a great price for a bull by threatening to slaughter him for not being fit for purpose and thought he'd send his lad off with Benjy at the weekend.
I don't know if there's as big a sore feet movement as the gay rights one. I'd say your better say he'd love to keep Benjy company and that they're both lonely.

milkprofit

Mad4simmental wrote: »

We bought a blonde bull around 9 months ago. Cost a pretty penny to. He has served heifers and is a lovely young bull not even 3 yet.

So he's got very lame and we got a lad out to look at his feet and he said he has the feet of a 12 year old cow (very soft).

I was thinking of calling the lad we bought him off as he shouldn't be gone like this so young, and have herd that sum breeders stand over bulls for a year after the sale.

I no more want to call him about it no more than he wants to get the call about it. So just asking did anyone else have the same problem? What was the out come?
U took him off meal to quick --lamentitis

He was probably on almost ad lib meal

Mad4simmental

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

I see what's going on here. Mad4simmental saw some other lad in Mayo get a great price for a bull by threatening to slaughter him for not being fit for purpose and thought he'd send his lad off with Benjy at the weekend.
I don't know if there's as big a sore feet movement as the gay rights one. I'd say your better say he'd love to keep Benjy company and that they're both lonely.

Ha, title on done deal "would you sloughter a human if they had sore feet"

Bellview

Mad4simmental wrote: »

We bought a blonde bull around 9 months ago. Cost a pretty penny to. He has served heifers and is a lovely young bull not even 3 yet.

So he's got very lame and we got a lad out to look at his feet and he said he has the feet of a 12 year old cow (very soft).

I was thinking of calling the lad we bought him off as he shouldn't be gone like this so young, and have herd that sum breeders stand over bulls for a year after the sale.

I no more want to call him about it no more than he wants to get the call about it. So just asking did anyone else have the same problem? What was the out come?

Am I wasting my time and just hang him and cut my losses?

Cheers

In the irish angus sales where we would sell some ped the seller has to stand over the bull for fertility and doing the job..a Benjy case could also be covered but you would need to see his lack of action with the females. As far as I'm aware once the bull has done a season successfully there is no come back for buyer

mf240

If he was mine id leave him out for the winter and give him plenty of minerals and he should come right if he going too.

Mad4simmental

milkprofit wrote: »

Mad4simmental wrote: »

U took him off meal to quick --lamentitis

He was probably on almost ad lib meal

I'm going to call into the vet tomorrow and see what he advises. I'll isolate him and give him hay and a pick of meal and see how he goes.

Didn't know they could get it cuming off meal I thought it was to much meal/protein that they got it from.

Miname

try seaweed, doesnt cost a whoe pile and good for minerals. handy fed mixed through a shot of mea or over siage.

Genghis Cant

The bluestone footbath is supposed to be good for the feet.

orm0nd

foot bath and the sea weed are good suggestions


you will do more harm pumping unnecessary minerals

whelan2

Mad4simmental wrote: »

We bought a blonde bull around 9 months ago. Cost a pretty penny to. He has served heifers and is a lovely young bull not even 3 yet.

So he's got very lame and we got a lad out to look at his feet and he said he has the feet of a 12 year old cow (very soft).

I was thinking of calling the lad we bought him off as he shouldn't be gone like this so young, and have herd that sum breeders stand over bulls for a year after the sale.

I no more want to call him about it no more than he wants to get the call about it. So just asking did anyone else have the same problem? What was the out come?

Am I wasting my time and just hang him and cut my losses?

Cheers

often had problems with young bulls feet, they are not used to all the walking after bullers-especially in dairy- hoofcare man says it takes time for their feet to harden up and rest is the best for them. I wouldnt contact previous owner

Capercaille

Horsey people give biotin in feed to harden up horse hooves, might work for cattle as well.

Mad4simmental

Capercaille wrote: »

Horsey people give biotin in feed to harden up horse hooves, might work for cattle as well.

Was talking to vet today. He has an injection on order for me with biotin, selenium and zink in it as a once off shot. He says he has tyred it a number of times and has worked a treat.

He is in a field by himself so I will give him a pick of meal and seaweed meal and hay.

Getting a loan of a footh bath off a nabourgh that I will run him over once a day for a week or two.

He won't have work to do for another 2/3 months so I'll see how he pulls around.

It's hard to make out but he is sort of pulling his back leggs in under him self. Poor fecker lost a lot of condition.

milkprofit

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Was talking to vet today. He has an injection on order for me with biotin, selenium and zink in it as a once off shot. He says he has tyred it a number of times and has worked a treat.

He is in a field by himself so I will give him a pick of meal and seaweed meal and hay.

Getting a loan of a footh bath off a nabourgh that I will run him over once a day for a week or two.

He won't have work to do for another 2/3 months so I'll see how he pulls around.

It's hard to make out but he is sort of pulling his back leggs in under him self. Poor fecker lost a lot of condition.

Make sure u don't bring in mortelleeo with foot bath