RTE Primetime - Special needs people getting tortured in a facility

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Anyone watching it?

How come they're blurring out the faces of those beating and terrifying residents?

They don't blur faces on Crimecall etc... why do it here?

FullblownRose

Is it because they're HSE employees?

Kevin McCloud

Its wreckless carry on by the staff, cattle in the mart gets better treatment.

Kermit.de.frog

Awful treatment but torture though?

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FullblownRose wrote: »

Is it because they're HSE employees?

I dunno. Their faces shouldn't be hidden though. They've been filmed breaking laws in a publicly owned place. What's the difference between it and viciously assaulting someone on the street?

The victims are identified so the abusers should be too.

Lord Trollington

Watching it here and its truly awful

SEPT 23 1989

I presume the guards are knocking on doors tonight as we speak

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SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I presume the guards are knocking on doors tonight as we speak

Retired judges sitting by their phones waiting to be asked to head up a lucrative inquiry

Cantremember

People are paid to do a job and the job to them is to chat together and be on their mobile phones. That's the problem.

Guy:Incognito

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Awful treatment but torture though?

Hyperbole ftw!

fran17

I'm shocked and dismayed.

small town girl

Its shocking, parts of it remind me of the footage we saw of uncaring orphanages in Eastern Europe we saw during the 1990's where these poor residents are treated as less than human

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Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Hyperbole ftw!

What would you call it for the people being put through it day after day, and year after year?

Force feeding is a recognized act of torture unless conducted in very specific circumstances and with proper medical oversight.

rodge68

It's disturbing, I think of my recently passed Mum and it saddens me to think that she could of being treated that way. Good God...

slaneylad

Disgusting

Lord Trollington

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Hyperbole ftw!

Torture isn't only water boarding . there are many different forms.

I'm fairly sure force feeding someone would fall into the torture category

Mikros

My name is URL wrote: »

I dunno. Their faces shouldn't be hidden though. They've been filmed breaking laws in a publicly owned place. What's the difference between it and viciously assaulting someone on the street?

The victims are identified so the abusers should be too.

I'd imagine the staff faces are hidden as to not prejudice any future legal or disciplinary action. Any investigation would have to look at the full facts, not just those shown in a TV special. Shocking viewing though don't get me wrong.

iMac_Hunt

I purposely avoided watching it, I wouldn't be able to stomach watching it tbh. I also think their faces should be blurred, if they were easily identifiable, I would dread to think of the abuse/assault that would potentially follow.

jimmy180sx

Why are they protecting this persons identity?

genericguy

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Retired judges sitting by their phones waiting to be asked to head up a lucrative inquiry

Ha, Paul carney to postpone his retirement and head it up, imposing €50 fines to all involved.

Rob Thomas

This is shocking.

While they are probably correct to blur their faces to avoid prejudicing any future action, I think people familiar with the facility won't have a problem recognising voices and clothing.

Lord Trollington

iMac_Hunt wrote: »

I purposely avoided watching it, I wouldn't be able to stomach watching it tbh. I also think their faces should be blurred, if they were easily identifiable, I would dread to think of the abuse/assault that would potentially follow.

This is far worse than the creche one.

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Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Hyperbole ftw!

Depriving people of sleep too. Another act of torture.. or is that still hyperbole? :rolleyes:

Lord Trollington

I feel physically sick watching this

FullblownRose

They might get more than a slap on the wrist and a litte note in their file now that its been widely publicised. I wouldnt bet on it though.

retro:electro

The lowest of the low. Utter scum.

amacca

My name is URL wrote: »

I dunno. Their faces shouldn't be hidden though. They've been filmed breaking laws in a publicly owned place. What's the difference between it and viciously assaulting someone on the street?

The victims are identified so the abusers should be too.

do they not blur out faces of people carrying out assaults on cctv too

for legal reasons - like a court case pending or the identified person suing because of consequences of being identified by others who might seek revenge etc

Rob Thomas

That one calling the poor woman by her surname seems to be a class act.

KERSPLAT!

It's recorded but I doubt I'll watch it, couldn't bare it

Turtwig

My name is URL wrote: »

I dunno. Their faces shouldn't be hidden though. They've been filmed breaking laws in a publicly owned place. What's the difference between it and viciously assaulting someone on the street?

The victims are identified so the abusers should be too.

By hiding their faces RTE are protected from being sued. Publicly revealing the identities would only serve to have one massive defamation suit on RTE and we know how they handle those!:rolleyes:

obezyana

My god that is dreadful. Swinford is a small place it will get out very quick who those people are.

ThunbergsAreGo

Each clip just gets worse tbh, awful stuff

Ace2007

I missed the start of this - over how long a period was this recorded?

CaptainInsano

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Awful treatment but torture though?

Yes let us all be pedantic and argue about words, as is the real issue here.

Completely disgusting viewing.

tomwaterford

Jesus...thats hard to watch/stomach

No defending that!!!.

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Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Awful treatment but torture though?

You still watching?

Do you want to reconsider?

bjork

But there be a review and an investigation and weak points identified and meetings with action points drawn up and ticked off, Practices will be changed moving forward, yadda, yadda Just like there was after the Leas Cross Scandal




Why are these peoples faces covered?
What charges are they facing?

Lord Trollington

If any of those poor people were my brother or sister I would burn down the house of those workers.

duckcfc

How are you supposed to do with them thou. They are hard work

Annasopra

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Retired judges sitting by their phones waiting to be asked to head up a lucrative inquiry

Why? HIQA can do it.

SEPT 23 1989

duckcfc wrote: »

How are you supposed to do with them thou. They are hard work

Just **** off will you

Streetwalker

duckcfc wrote: »

How are you supposed to do with them thou. They are hard work

Excuse me

Gulliver

It's a simple thing, but the casual tug down by the hood was such a demeaning action. That "nurse" with the dark hair is a real piece of work.

My gran who was completely bedridden, "climbed over the bed railing" and fell and broke her hip. She had to have a pressure mattress because she couldn't move at all. My mother let it go, but after seeing this... I'm suspicious

bjork

duckcfc wrote: »

How are you supposed to do with them thou. They are hard work

Seriously?

duckcfc

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Just **** off will you

Tell me how you'd do it if it was day in day out non stop.

o1s1n

Lord Trollington wrote: »

If any of those poor people were my brother or sister I would burn down the house of those workers.

What has me absolutely flabbergasted is the fact that there are so many staff members acting like such scummy cnuts.all it takes is one to speak out.

****ing disgusting.

Lord Trollington

duckcfc wrote: »

How are you supposed to do with them thou. They are hard work

They are hard work. They are not strung out on drugs threatening workers with a knife.

They have severe mental and physical disabilities. They require specialist treatment which is what that home is suppose to supply. Workers are suppose to be trained to deal with special needw. Not sit on their phone or smoking leaving patients in chairs for 11 hours

Mantis Toboggan

This craic has been going on for years in homes all over Ireland. This just happens to be highlighted. Disgusting.

Streetwalker

Very very hard to watch. Hard to believe this is 2014 and this is going on

The_Valeyard

Horrible, horrible, treatment.


Seriously, how is this allowed to happen.

Granted its very difficult work, but you can't treat Human beings this way.


Better supervision and training? Better pay so people would do their job better?

Venus In Furs

duckcfc wrote: »

How are you supposed to do with them thou. They are hard work

Yes, looking after severely disabled people can be very hard work... and you don't make things worse for them by bullying and subjugating them.

Those with brain-damage can't control themselves, those who have no mental/intellectual disability don't have that excuse.