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Who has right of way here?

  • 07-12-2014 8:58pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 580 ✭✭✭


    Who has right of way here?

    This first image is of the roundabout near the Airside Retail Park in Swords, Co. Dublin. On approach to the roundabout, there are two lanes. The left lane continues on to the slip road leading to the motorway and the right one seems to continue all the way back around the roundabout. However, the lane on the slip road seems to have two lanes starting off and eventually merging onto just one. My question, is would the people on the left lane have right of way over the people on the left or would the vehicles on the right have priority when it comes down to one lane? Should all vehicles here not be entering the slip road on the left lane? Just curious as my boyfriend and I almost had a bit of a near miss, he was in the left lane and a car came up on his right.

    http://goo.gl/2OWbNN -- Airside Swords Roundabout.

    The same question here, why is there three lanes in Whitehall heading towards city centre (all with straight-ahead arrows). In the picture here it looks to me that the leftmost lane should be left only and the middle and right lane should be straight ahead only. I have also seen quite a few near misses here too. Is it just poor road layout? Or poor road markings?

    http://goo.gl/HvCU2M -- Whitehall Area


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    Who has right of way here?

    This first image is of the roundabout near the Airside Retail Park in Swords, Co. Dublin. On approach to the roundabout, there are two lanes. The left lane continues on to the slip road leading to the motorway and the right one seems to continue all the way back around the roundabout. However, the lane on the slip road seems to have two lanes starting off and eventually merging onto just one. My question, is would the people on the left lane have right of way over the people on the left or would the vehicles on the right have priority when it comes down to one lane? Should all vehicles here not be entering the slip road on the left lane? Just curious as my boyfriend and I almost had a bit of a near miss, he was in the left lane and a car came up on his right.

    http://goo.gl/2OWbNN -- Airside Swords Roundabout.



    The same question here, why is there three lanes in Whitehall heading towards city centre (all with straight-ahead arrows). In the picture here it looks to me that the leftmost lane should be left only and the middle and right lane should be straight ahead only. I have also seen quite a few near misses here too. Is it just poor road layout? Or poor road markings?

    http://goo.gl/HvCU2M -- Whitehall Area

    If you are coming from whitehall in the direction of the swords rd. The left most lane is for turning left onto the swords road. Middle lane or right hand lane can be used for going straight ahead. Right lane you could turn right also toward the beaumont exit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 580 ✭✭✭JumpShivers


    Just to clarify, in the Whitehall area I am going from Santry to the city centre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭Sheldons Brain


    Neither of these are a problem, there are the same number of lanes on both sides junctions and there is a long merge 100m further on.

    Junctions, where traffic is sometimes delayed, will sometimes have more lanes than the road ahead.

    The Whitehall merges is symmetric, neither lane has a particular right of way the vehicle in front has right of way, Airside as below.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Re Airside, the left lane merges into the right, that's what the arrows are for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,694 ✭✭✭BMJD


    the Airside one is a POX, I've seen several accidents in this because the lanes are too narrow


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    BMJD wrote: »
    the Airside one is a POX, I've seen several accidents in this because the lanes are too narrow

    Nowt wrong with the Airside, two lanes onto a RaB, 2 lanes off, merging left into right. Just follow the signing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Should all vehicles here not be entering the slip road on the left lane? Just curious as my boyfriend and I almost had a bit of a near miss, he was in the left lane and a car came up on his right.

    No they shouldn't, there's two lanes off the roundabout for a reason.
    Both lanes of traffic existing into the left lane would be very dangerous.

    You exited into the left lane, the other car exited into the right lane. That's perfectly fine so far.
    From there the arrows look like the left lane is merging into the right lane, so if any one has right of way, its the car in the right lane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,694 ✭✭✭BMJD


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Nowt wrong with the Airside, two lanes onto a RaB, 2 lanes off, merging left into right. Just follow the signing

    the layout is fine, it's the width of the lanes which is a problem for anything bigger than a car or going faster than 30 km/h imo. I think I posted a video in the dashcam thread of a car hitting that brick roundabout thing because a truck in the left forced him/her to take evasive action

    https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.4432348,-6.2078697,3a,75y,95.41h,70.52t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sv6Eq_olBDRT5UjqRoVGIuA!2e0


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭delahuntv


    The road markings are quite clear in both instances.

    There are certain "normal" rules, but there's always the line "except where directed by road signage" you have to remember.

    On the Airside one, the road marking show a curved arrow showing that the left lane traffic needs to move into the right lane. Therefore traffic in the right lane has right of way. The vehicle in the left lane should be aware they are coming to the end of their lane and prepare to merge safely into the outer lane. In heavy traffic motorists should merge in turn.

    On the whitehall one, there is a bus lane up to about 30metres before the junction. The bus will proceed ahead and continue into the bus lane at the other side of the road. Motorists may also use this lane primarily for turning left but it also allows for going straight ahead, but as there is a bus lane within 20 metres of the junction on the city side, the motorist who uses this lane for going straight ahead does not have any right of way to jump back into lane 2 - he/she must do so safely with regard to other motorists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭*Kol*


    Off topic but when I click the Whitehall link it opens up the Google maps app ans shows the Airport Takeaway chipper. A good chipper if you happen to be passing by!!


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