Non-EU/EEA Marrying Irish Citizen - Stamp 4 confusion/questions

Alcoholicia

Hello!

I am a US Citizen and my partner is an Irish Citizen.

I've been with my partner for about 2 years now, and we are talking about getting married in my home country within the next 7/8 months and then myself moving over to Ireland within the next year.

Now, I'm a little confused by the immigration laws. Since I'm from a non-visa required country and we will have already been married will we only need to bring the following to the Garda Station in our city of residence:

Your original marriage/civil partnership certificate
Your original passport
Your Irish spouse’s/civil partner’s original passport
Evidence of your joint address

These are outlined on the INIS website under:
Our Services > Immigration > Spouse of an Irish National

However, directly underneath it says that if I'm outside my stay I need much more information, but I'm not sure if I'll need all of that information while we go to the Garda Station, as well.

I know I'm asking a bit ahead in the future, but this has been something we've been talking about for well over a year. Originally we were going to go for the defacto visa but when the laws were changed to having to live with them for 2 years (We can only be somewhere for 90 days, how is that supposed to work??) we knew that marriage was our only option.

Also, what are the fees for applying for a stamp 4? When I was doing an erasmus last semester the fee was 300e but I'm not sure if the cost is much more significant as this would encompass working as well as "permanent" residence in the country.

Has anybody been through this process and can offer some advice? I'm reading this thinking that it really cannot be so easy to just bring ourselves, our passports, our marriage certificate, and a copy of our lease to the garda station. Surely we need all of the other information, as well?

Thanks!

almorris

The fee for a stamp4 is e300. unless you are married. Then the fee is waived. I just renewed my status. A good resource is the Immigration Council Ireland. They are on the ball with this sort of thing. Google for their site.

elle_07

I'm not exactly sure in your circumstance, but perhaps this could help.

I have been with my Irish Nation partner for more than two years. I'm currently residing in Ireland and have been for the past 12 months on a Work Permit (I'm also a Non-EEA national - Australian). I've sent off my application for De Facto residency for when my Work Permit expires.
However, if we were married, all I would need to do (rather than send of a huge application folder with a lengthy waiting time) is walk into the office of my local Immigration Officer Gardai along with my partner and show proof of marriage as well as passports and identification for both people.
If the officer believes that your marriage is genuine, he can stamp you then and there with a Stamp 4.

That's what I've been told. I'm actually off to speak to the local officer here this week to see if I can avoid this awkward process of De Facto.

Alcoholicia

elle_07 wrote: »

I'm not exactly sure in your circumstance, but perhaps this could help.

I have been with my Irish Nation partner for more than two years. I'm currently residing in Ireland and have been for the past 12 months on a Work Permit (I'm also a Non-EEA national - Australian). I've sent off my application for De Facto residency for when my Work Permit expires.
However, if we were married, all I would need to do (rather than send of a huge application folder with a lengthy waiting time) is walk into the office of my local Immigration Officer Gardai along with my partner and show proof of marriage as well as passports and identification for both people.
If the officer believes that your marriage is genuine, he can stamp you then and there with a Stamp 4.

That's what I've been told. I'm actually off to speak to the local officer here this week to see if I can avoid this awkward process of De Facto.

Elle if you could keep me updated and let me know what you find out from the officer I would love to know! We were originally planning on going for the de facto, but when they changed the laws to have to have lived together for at least a year it put a massive damper on things as we're both in our early twenties and just recent finished school!

jamesdublin12

I would love to know more or this or how long Id have to wait.
My boyfriend is from brazil, and with money in all we dont live together cos we can only afford for him at teh moment with the rent prices and afford to barely live. So after we are married we can work more, get a job in his area, and get rid of all the college fees.

So after we marry, and apply for the stamp4 how long do we have to wait.. and can u work in europe on a stamp4.. I heard no only on a stamp4 eu but that doesnt apply in ireland.

Irishgirl88

Alcoholicia wrote: »

Hello!

I am a US Citizen and my partner is an Irish Citizen.

I've been with my partner for about 2 years now, and we are talking about getting married in my home country within the next 7/8 months and then myself moving over to Ireland within the next year.

Now, I'm a little confused by the immigration laws. Since I'm from a non-visa required country and we will have already been married will we only need to bring the following to the Garda Station in our city of residence:

Your original marriage/civil partnership certificate
Your original passport
Your Irish spouse’s/civil partner’s original passport
Evidence of your joint address

These are outlined on the INIS website under:
Our Services > Immigration > Spouse of an Irish National

However, directly underneath it says that if I'm outside my stay I need much more information, but I'm not sure if I'll need all of that information while we go to the Garda Station, as well.

I know I'm asking a bit ahead in the future, but this has been something we've been talking about for well over a year. Originally we were going to go for the defacto visa but when the laws were changed to having to live with them for 2 years (We can only be somewhere for 90 days, how is that supposed to work??) we knew that marriage was our only option.

Also, what are the fees for applying for a stamp 4? When I was doing an erasmus last semester the fee was 300e but I'm not sure if the cost is much more significant as this would encompass working as well as "permanent" residence in the country.

Has anybody been through this process and can offer some advice? I'm reading this thinking that it really cannot be so easy to just bring ourselves, our passports, our marriage certificate, and a copy of our lease to the garda station. Surely we need all of the other information, as well?

Thanks!

Did you have any follow up? I'm in the exact same position right now

jamesdublin12

any follow up

Kdk86

Any follow up on stamp 4 waiting period??

almorris

If its a renewal, then you need to apply in writing, email, 1 month before expiry of your stamp 4. If a new stamp 4 , I'd be contacting the immigrant council if Ireland.

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