New engines

monkeysnapper

Do people buy brand new engines for cars rather than buy new cars , it's just a thought that went through my head . i own a Audi a4 2003 and she's like a brand new car from outside . Plus drives beautifully . Why would you spend thousands buying new when maybe you could buy new engine and even maybe buy new gearbox .

Or am I just mad ;0)

colm_mcm

You're just mad.



As is the price of a new engine.

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

The engine usually outlasts the bodywork; at least that used to be the case, maybe not so much now with galvanised steel being used.

Cheensbo

Nope, in theory its a nice idea but,

A 2003 A4 is still a 2003 A4 in terms of value whether it has a brand new (€5000+) new engine in it or not..

mickdw

Everything else would still be 11 years old. Suspension, body, control modules, wiring harnesses, drives, brakes, switches etc - all the things that are likely to be more troublesome than the engine.

dr.fuzzenstein

By the time you replace the engine you will have replaced the suspension several times, unless its a valuable classic car, there is no point. Add to that a respray every few years and other sundry items, it would be mad to keep a car going forever. Still, the existence of classic cars would support that theory. Because nobody with any sanity would want to jeep a car going for 30 years or more, definitely not for practical reasons.

monkeysnapper

I'm not talking about selling car. ive put parts on my car that I know will probably outlive car . So if I'm just looking for a car that will keep me on road for many more years why not just replace engine.

Surely wouldn't you be left with practacly a new car in terms of performance and reliability .

How much is a new engine? And how much would a Indy garage roughly charge to install.?

I'm only asking because I personally haven't ever heard of anyone buying new engine .

Comhrá

Are you sure your present engine is knackered? What mileage is on the car?

slimjimmc

monkeysnapper wrote: »

Surely wouldn't you be left with practacly a new car in terms of performance and reliability .

Not in terms of reliability. It might be a somewhat more reliable as you're less likely to suffer problems due to engine /gearbox wear but don't forget all the other bits and pieces such as wheel bearings, steering, suspension, electronics, electrics, air-bags, air-con, window regs have suffered 11 years of wear/corrosion and their reliability is not improved. Even if the engine is mechanically sound other older components could prevent it from running.

quadrifoglio verde

monkeysnapper wrote: »

Do people buy brand new engines for cars rather than buy new cars , it's just a thought that went through my head . i own a Audi a4 2003 and she's like a brand new car from outside . Plus drives beautifully . Why would you spend thousands buying new when maybe you could buy new engine and even maybe buy new gearbox .

Or am I just mad ;0)

Why would you spend thousands buying new? Because it comes with a nice smell and a 151 plate.
I drove a car back for a mate the other day, yes it might be nearly 15 years old, but it was faster, better spec and less than one months repayment on a 1 series bmw. Feck it was probably the best specd car on the motorway that day.
I still see new cars with feckin steelies, steelies I tell you.
But you'll find the owner doesn't car about that, or how it drives for that matter, all he cares about is the fact that it's new.

gctest50

slimjimmc wrote: »

Not in terms of reliability. It might be a somewhat more reliable as you're less likely to suffer problems due to engine /gearbox wear but don't forget all the other bits and pieces such as wheel bearings, steering, suspension, electronics, electrics, air-bags, air-con, window regs have suffered 11 years of wear/corrosion and their reliability is not improved. Even if the engine is mechanically sound other older components could prevent it from running.

yip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHwwwJ83oWo

Bpmull

I suppose the biggest probl as mentioned above is that still so much of the cars components are old and worn. Then the thing about it is once you put in a new engine you suddenly have a lot of money tied up in a car that's not worth a whole lot and where is the cut off point. You stick in the new engine, few months later gearbox goes, then turbo, alternator, electronics cause trouble. I don't know when do you call it a day as it could quickly turn into a money pit. You could easily be left with a car that worth 2k standing you 10k euro and is still having problems. Now that might not necessarily happen and it could go perfect. I'm all for keeping cars and once minded to should be reasonably reliable but if it's not worth much and the engine goes I'd probably call it a day and move on to something else.

lomb

I intend to keep my TT going 'forever' even as a second car. That involves a yearly parts/repairs spend of around 1500. Some years more probably. To me nothing short of a new 50k car is going to compete with it and even then Id rather mine. 1 years depreciation and finance cost on a 50k car is 12500. Seems to make perfect sense to keep mine on the road then.
I wouldn't buy a new engine though a well made engine well serviced and not laboured in high gears while driving slowly will run for a million miles. Just look at trucks although possibly not as relevant as they are diesel and that acts as a lubricant in itself.
If mine failed Id just get one out of a breakers. A rebuild is also a possibility, ie what wears are piston rings and bearings, valves and seats. These can be replaced and the head replaced if needs be.
Anything well made from 2000 onwards is going to be a very good car better than new. Anything designed after around 2004 was geared towards reducing co2 with cheap lightweight fittings, cheap engines, complex sensors and electronics. Look at the Audi 2l tfsi engines reporting burning litres of oil every thousand miles. Youd think after one hundred years Audi could build a reliable engine but apparently not..

monkeysnapper

Firstly there's nothing wrong with my car, I'm not asking about this because my engine is shot. I bought my audi a4 roughly 4 years old back in 2007 and it cost a small fortune . But I have to say having driven brand new cars still my 2003 audi avant drives better than most models out there .

I totally agree buying a new engine is overkill but people seem to ,in my opinion throw 25/30 k on a new car which to me is crazy .it was a thought that entered my head that if you had a car that you really looked after well , you knew you had say replaced shocks/ bearings / exhaust and you knew it was a very sound car but say engine had come to end of life , surely chucking a few grand on a new engine was no crazier than spending a heap more on a new car to hang around your neck for 4/5 years,

Even crazier pcp a car that you wouldn't even own at end of chucking a heap of money at it. I'd just never heard of people buying new engines .

Can you actually buy new engines?
How much do they cost?

dr.fuzzenstein

4-5 thousand if the petrol stretching thread is any guide.
Engine will be the last thing to replace on any car.
Mine's done 310k km and its still the soundest bit of the car, it will easily do that again. And then it still shouldn't be replaced, a rebuild will do.
You can put a million miles on your car and still not need an engine.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/_mobile/cars/news/pictures/million-mile-club-the-worlds-longest-lived-cars