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Help with router - thinks I'm somewhere else

  • 30-11-2014 10:45pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8


    Hi all - looking for some help . I have a UPC horizon box fir my internet . When I am connected all the advertisements that appear are Hungarian! I keep being directed to Hungarian websites . I thought it may have just been Google but it's when I'm in apps as well . I have also checked on different decices , iPad , macs , windows laptop etc . I have tried cleaning cache and also restarting the router . I was also onto UPC and they reset it back to factory but no joy - any ideas ???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 824 ✭✭✭Kinet1c


    Hmm, try setting your DNS to openDNS or Google DNS on the router.

    No harm in running a trace route either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭eddiehen


    puurp wrote: »
    Hi all - looking for some help . I have a UPC horizon box fir my internet . When I am connected all the advertisements that appear are Hungarian! I keep being directed to Hungarian websites . I thought it may have just been Google but it's when I'm in apps as well . I have also checked on different decices , iPad , macs , windows laptop etc . I have tried cleaning cache and also restarting the router . I was also onto UPC and they reset it back to factory but no joy - any ideas ???

    Sounds like you have some adware which is hijacking all of the ads you are seeing, and searches you are attempting. I'd suggest running adwcleaner and removing anything that it finds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 824 ✭✭✭Kinet1c


    eddiehen wrote: »
    Sounds like you have some adware which is hijacking all of the ads you are seeing, and searches you are attempting. I'd suggest running adwcleaner and removing anything that it finds.

    On all devices though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭FSL


    It could be that the last block of IP addresses purchased by UPC had previously been allocated to a Hungarian ISP and the geo-location data has not been updated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭eddiehen


    Kinet1c wrote: »
    On all devices though?

    Whoops! Missed that part.... :o

    DNS issue sounds about right, but if the router was reset to factory settings then it may be something more sinister if it keeps manifesting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭timmywex


    FSL wrote: »
    It could be that the last block of IP addresses purchased by UPC had previously been allocated to a Hungarian ISP and the geo-location data has not been updated.

    This is it I would imagine, depending on timing etc - have you recently joined UPC?

    Shouldn't be a DNS problem, particularly after resets etc...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 puurp


    Thanks for the replys

    Just to note - I have been with UPC for 3 years and this just started happening about 3 weeks ago - I got back onto UPC and they could not see a reason . I went back and wiped all history for browsing etc but no joy . Even when I'm on my iPhone and I open the Irish independent app the ads are in Hungarian !!! Very annoying and slightiy concerning .

    I was messing with router settings a while ago as I have a baby monitor camera that I wanted to connect to when out and about - but I have reset the router now just in case

    Guess I'll just Have to start buying stuff from Hungary


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    puurp wrote: »
    Thanks for the replys

    Just to note - I have been with UPC for 3 years and this just started happening about 3 weeks ago - I got back onto UPC and they could not see a reason . I went back and wiped all history for browsing etc but no joy . Even when I'm on my iPhone and I open the Irish independent app the ads are in Hungarian !!! Very annoying and slightiy concerning .

    I was messing with router settings a while ago as I have a baby monitor camera that I wanted to connect to when out and about - but I have reset the router now just in case

    Guess I'll just Have to start buying stuff from Hungary

    Its definitely a DNS issue on the router itself. If you log on to the Web GUI can you paste a screenshot of the DNS settings?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    Try to do a whois check on your ip address just to be sure and set your DNS server to 8.8.8.8 on your PC. Refresh cache and cookies, reboot PC and see if they
    are showing on your PC in Hungarian.

    Is it just at home you're seeing these Hungarian ads? When you connect to 3G/4G is it the same?

    If the above works, change your DNS server as above to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 for Google or UPC's which I don't know off by heart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 puurp


    Yes , its only when I'm at home on the router

    I have the DNS as 0.0.0.0 i tried others

    Still no joy - for example - when I goole youtube i get put to youtube.hu!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 963 ✭✭✭Labarbapostiza


    Go to the website http://www.whatsmyip.org/ it will tell you your IP address on the internet, and you can find the location.

    You may have some spyware tunnelling you to Hungary.

    Google tries to track you and target ads for your language and gender etc. For a while all my ads were in Spanish. Google doesn't hold that info on your computer, it's stored at Google's server centre.

    I wouldn't bother resetting the router. They're rarely hacked because there are so many different models. It's much easier to put a tunnel on a PC....But it could just be Google thinks you're Hungarian, like it thought I was Spanish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 puurp


    Thanks - I'll try that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 puurp


    Ok - everything looks fine - it says that Im ntl.ie and that Im in Dublin !

    I have tried different browsers , using google, yahoo etc - macs - pc - iPad - iPhone etc

    For example - when i use the Irish Independent app on my iPhone the advertisements appear in hungarian !


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,758 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    PM me the IP you've been assigned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,426 ✭✭✭ressem


    If you have a google account shared between devices, can you try

    https://www.google.com/settings/ads

    and it is supposed to tell you the assumptions that google and it's related ad network are making about you, including the language you 'want' your ads in and what it is claiming your interests are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    It's nothing to do with DNS at all. Many websites use IP geolocation services to locate you based on your router's public IP address. UPC regularly shuffles blocks of IP addresses around from other countries it operates in such as Austria and Hungary, and despite them updating the details some IP geolocation services are using outdated databases. That's all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 963 ✭✭✭Labarbapostiza


    Alun wrote: »
    UPC regularly shuffles blocks of IP addresses around from other countries it operates in such as Austria and Hungary, and despite them updating the details some IP geolocation services are using outdated databases. That's all.

    I don't know what UPC do, but they might be piping their traffic privately (over bits that are not part of the public internet), and if it hits the internet in a different country; hits the public routers, then it will have IPs of that country. IP addresses are geographic.

    Different providers can do very weird things with traffic using private non-IP transports.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭braddun




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Alun wrote: »
    It's nothing to do with DNS at all. Many websites use IP geolocation services to locate you based on your router's public IP address. UPC regularly shuffles blocks of IP addresses around from other countries it operates in such as Austria and Hungary, and despite them updating the details some IP geolocation services are using outdated databases. That's all.
    UPC does have a history of doing this. It caused a lot of problems for Irish users of Netflix a few years ago as their IP location was, apparently, Austria. Check the IP on www.ripe.net to see what the proper location is for the IP address (rather than relying on third party websites.) RIPE is generally the authoritative database for European IP ranges.

    Regards...jmcc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    braddun wrote: »

    How about you try posting something more than single line posts containing links to irrelevant websites, as you seem to be doing across boards.ie since you joined, for a change?

    Anyway, I've already explained what's been happening, it's nothing to do with DNS or any kind of malware, it's just UPC reallocating address blocks, and crappy IP geolocation services relying on out of date information, that's all.


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