AerLingus -v Ryanair -> London

adam88

Might not be the right place so feel free to move.

I've to fly to london urgently on Monday for two nights. Compared aer lingus and ryanair. Similiar enough times. A difference of 500 euro for three people flying. I was prepared to pay a little bit more for al but that was taking the biscuit.

Okay stansted and heathrow are two different airport but It doesn't matter which one I fly into. I couldn't see aer lingus selling many of the remaining seats at that price.

lc180

adam88 wrote: »

Might not be the right place so feel free to move.

I've to fly to london urgently on Monday for two nights. Compared aer lingus and ryanair. Similiar enough times. A difference of 500 euro for three people flying. I was prepared to pay a little bit more for al but that was taking the biscuit.

Okay stansted and heathrow are two different airport but It doesn't matter which one I fly into. I couldn't see aer lingus selling many of the remaining seats at that price.

Probably better suited to the Travel section.

Don't want to sound rude but what's the point of your thread? Do you want advice which to pick?

I'd go with whatever is cheapest. It's a 1 hour flight and there isn't really any perks to Aer Lingus short haul except picking your own seat.

endacl

I thought this was a boxing reminiscences thread. An abbreviation of Ali v Frasier.

keith16

Soooo.....what's the problem?

L1011

If you're connecting at London you've little choice but Heathrow. The seats wouldn't be priced that high if they didn't sell that high.

LCY before it became the bloodbath it has in the past few weeks was often even more comically priced but it, again, sold tickets.

endacl

Well, in '76 in Manila, Frazier could hardly see by the end of the bout.

adam88

keith16 wrote: »

Soooo.....what's the problem?

Where does aer lingus get off on charging that premium. Like that's three pax they have lost to Fr

Also does ba fly ork-lhr or do they code share with al. Can't seem to book online

L1011

adam88 wrote: »

Where does aer lingus get off on charging that premium. Like that's three pax they have lost to Fr

Also does ba fly ork-lhr or do they code share with al. Can't seem to book online

As said above, its very likely they'll sell those three seats for far more - if they weren't selling them they wouldn't be charging that high.

BA codeshare to everywhere other than Dublin here.

Jack1985

Where does aer lingus get off on charging that premium. Like that's three pax they have lost to Fr

Ahem, because its pax profile agree to that price at booking you know that time where you book a flight of your own volition. Aer Lingus customers might prefer to pay a premium for a different style of service etc. And with rising Load Factors, profits and yield per ASK, I doubt they are much concerned to put it frankly.

billie1b

L1011 wrote: »

As said above, its very likely they'll sell those three seats for far more - if they weren't selling them they wouldn't be charging that high.

BA codeshare to everywhere other than Dublin here.

I thought BA had a codeshare with EI to DUB, ORK, LHR, BHD and vice versa, did it change?

folbotcar

Reminds me of the time me and the wife went to Cannes for a week. (Yes we're posh) Compared Aer Lingus to Ryanair. EI into Nice and FR to Marseille. When it all worked out. It was a full €850 cheaper on Ryanair including hire car. No contest. If it had been €100 we would have gone EI to avoid the drive. But the numbers don't lie. €850 is a lot of money for wining and dining even in a rather expensive South of France.

Ryanair really is value for money.

L1011

billie1b wrote: »

I thought BA had a codeshare with EI to DUB, ORK, LHR, BHD and vice versa, did it change?

They do, I should have said "only" codeshare - as in they still codeshare to DUB also, but operate flights as well.

billy few mates

I've to fly to london urgently on Monday for two nights

A flight next Monday? That's not urgent, I buy most of my flights with a day's notice, sometimes even less, you should see the cost of some of those...

If cost is an issue have you considered taking the ferry...? They're very pleasant these days, some fast crossings and a nice leisurely drive down through England, with three of you you could share the driving, and you'll have your car for driving around.
There's also bus trips if you have the time? They're very cheap, and you can sit back and snooze the journey away.

andy_g

Moved to Travel forum.
Travel forum Charter now applies.

zagmund

Man, oh man. Where's that old rant of mine about there being more than two airlines flying between Ireland & London? You don't say where you are flying from, but if it's Dublin then there's several other airlines to consider - CItyJet, BA, Fly BE. Possibly another one. Use Skyscanner and don't limit yourself to the two airlines

z

spurious

I would fly Ryanair to Gatwick and get the easyjet bus (booked in advance) in. Saves loads.

b757

EI = Aer Lingus, not AL.

zagmund

And another thing . . . where are you getting this €500 more from? There are plenty of fights on Monday for well under €70 per person.

z

munchkin_utd

adam88 wrote: »

Might not be the right place so feel free to move.

I've to fly to london urgently on Monday for two nights. Compared aer lingus and ryanair. Similiar enough times. A difference of 500 euro for three people flying. I was prepared to pay a little bit more for al but that was taking the biscuit.

Okay stansted and heathrow are two different airport but It doesn't matter which one I fly into. I couldn't see aer lingus selling many of the remaining seats at that price.

So aer lingus have a half empty plane which they are not interested in filling ?
Em, probably an almost full plane, or decently full plane and they reckon there's enough pax willing to pay a premium to travel with their airline.

And look at the numbers.
If they sell 4 seats at 250 euro that's a grand in the pocket.
Sell the seats at 100 a pop, you need 10 customers for the same turnover.
Sell them at 50 a pop, you need 20 customers to have a grand turnover.

Charging more indeed means less bums on seats, but an airline lives or dies on profits, not numbers carried. So if they get more cash with less travelling then that's a good situation for them.

Lapin

L1011 wrote: »

LCY before it became the bloodbath it has in the past few weeks was often even more comically priced but it, again, sold tickets.

I flew from there last week and it was flawless.

Had to book a flight to Ireland at short notice and got one to Dublin with BA for £70.
Ryanair were looking for £154 from Luton for a flight departing around the same time, and Aer Lingus something similar from Heathrow.

I was well impressed.

keithclancy

adam88 wrote: »

Might not be the right place so feel free to move.

I've to fly to london urgently on Monday for two nights. Compared aer lingus and ryanair. Similiar enough times. A difference of 500 euro for three people flying. I was prepared to pay a little bit more for al but that was taking the biscuit.

Okay stansted and heathrow are two different airport but It doesn't matter which one I fly into. I couldn't see aer lingus selling many of the remaining seats at that price.

The reason is because Aer Lingus have codeshares with other Airlines, so it's much easier to fill seats with people taking long haul flights out of Heathrow/Gatwick on one ticket. Their customers are people travelling with other Airlines on part of a long haul connecting ticket and less so people just going to London.

Ryanair on the other hand don't have Codeshares or connecting flights, so everyone on Ryanair is just going to London, or taking a connecting flight at their own risk.

zagmund

You must have been looking at early morning Monday or some other very popular time, when demand is much higher to be getting those prices.

I was looking at flights this morning, departing in a couple of hours and they were still well under €100 a head.

z

Lapin

zagmund wrote: »

You must have been looking at early morning Monday or some other very popular time, when demand is much higher to be getting those prices.

I was looking at flights this morning, departing in a couple of hours and they were still well under €100 a head.

z

Yep. It was for Monday morning last week.

All the more reason I was pleasantly surprised to get such a price from LCY.

I didn't find the place to be a 'bloodbath' as the poster I was replying to suggested it has been recently. I was through the place in less than 40 minutes and no queuing at security.

I did read that there is refurbisment work going on there but I didn't see any of this. Maybe the current phase is complete, or going on in a different part of the airport.

Its about four years since I last used LCY and didn't notice much difference to the place, apart from the cost of the flight. But if there are flights to be had at the price I got last week I'll certainly be paying more attention to the place in future when making my bookings.

Vic_08

Lapin wrote: »

Yep. It was for Monday morning last week.

All the more reason I was pleasantly surprised to get such a price from LCY.

I didn't find the place to be a 'bloodbath' as the poster I was replying to suggested it has been recently. I was through the place in less than 40 minutes and no queuing at security.

I did read that there is refurbisment work going on there but I didn't see any of this. Maybe the current phase is complete, or going on in a different part of the airport.

Its about four years since I last used LCY and didn't notice much difference to the place, apart from the cost of the flight. But if there are flights to be had at the price I got last week I'll certainly be paying more attention to the place in future when making my bookings.

AFAIK the previous poster was talking about the sudden reduction in fares due to 2 new airlines, BA and Flybe starting on the route this year.

zagmund

Yep, I presume bloodbath referred to the market for flights rather than anything else.

I flew there today for under €40 with Cityjet. This included a checked bag and complimentary bar service onboard - G&T for me to get the holiday off to a good start.

They have replaced the sandwich selection with a chocolate bar though. Chocolate beats airline sandwich any day so that's a plus for me.

I really don't know how they can provide that service at that fare. A G&T in the airport would presumably cost the guts of a tenner.

I was looking at the departures for today - I think between them the 3 carriers have something like 20 flights per direction per day. That's some change from the 5 or so earlier this year.

z

braddun

go with the cheapest one both are crap

don't forget to add all the extra charges

both fares will keep going up as you get closer to the time

L1011

Lapin wrote: »

I didn't find the place to be a 'bloodbath' as the poster I was replying to suggested it has been recently.

I didn't.

I was saying the prices have been, as we have gone from one airline - Cityjet - to three - Cityjet, BA and Flybe, in the space of a few weeks and Cityjet have increased frequency too. Net result is about 3 times as many seats.

Marcusm

L1011 wrote: »

I didn't.

I was saying the prices have been, as we have gone from one airline - Cityjet - to three - Cityjet, BA and Flybe, in the space of a few weeks and Cityjet have increased frequency too. Net result is about 3 times as many seats.

Not quite 3 times as many but you're absolutely right, the prices have dropped significantly. Plus the BA ERJs are generally more comfortable for most people. Leg room the same or better and no middle seat. Smaller overhead bins but plan well and it's not an issue.

Lapin

L1011 wrote: »

I didn't.

Sorry. Picked you up wrong. Thought you meant the airport itself.

roundymac

adam88 wrote: »

Where does aer lingus get off on charging that premium. Like that's three pax they have lost to Fr

Also does ba fly ork-lhr or do they code share with al. Can't seem to book online

BA does a code share ex ORK with EI, but you have to have a connection with BA ex LHR. You just can't book a ORK-LHR flight ex ORK with BA.

munwin

Go with the cheapest. Not much difference with either on a short flight like yours.

JCX BXC

zagmund wrote: »

Man, oh man. Where's that old rant of mine about there being more than two airlines flying between Ireland & London? You don't say where you are flying from, but if it's Dublin then there's several other airlines to consider - CItyJet, BA, Fly BE. Possibly another one. Use Skyscanner and don't limit yourself to the two airlines

z

From cork, there is two airlines.