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Walking around in the scrum

  • 25-11-2014 4:58pm
    #1
    blackdog1
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    Looseheads and 2nd rows walking around in scrums over the last few weeks has been very noticeable and its a tactic used on opposition ball to con referees. Australia walked around on ireland constantly on Saturday and you can clearly see it on replays if you watch the 2nd rows feet. I saw ulster do it on at least 2 occasion against the ospreys too. Corbs for england and vunipola are at it aswell. I personally think the refs should watch out for this as its becoming an ever increasing blight on the game and its making weak props look strong or dominant. I love a good scrum battle and it really annoys me when I see this type of conning of refs going on.

    Rant over.


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  • #2
    clsmooth
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    blackdog1 wrote: »
    Looseheads and 2nd rows walking around in scrums over the last few weeks has been very noticeable and its a tactic used on opposition ball to con referees. Australia walked around on ireland constantly on Saturday and you can clearly see it on replays if you watch the 2nd rows feet. I saw ulster do it on at least 2 occasion against the ospreys too. Corbs for england and vunipola are at it aswell. I personally think the refs should watch out for this as its becoming an ever increasing blight on the game and its making weak props look strong or dominant. I love a good scrum battle and it really annoys me when I see this type of conning of refs going on.

    Rant over.

    Nigels Owens blew us up for it in 2012 in NZ. That didn't end well.


  • #3
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,107 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I've seen it blown up quite a few times. I guess it's actually quite difficult from the ref's viewpoint to tell the difference between one scrum walking around and one of the props in the other retreating under pressure.


  • #4
    blackdog1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    I've seen it blown up quite a few times. I guess it's actually quite difficult from the ref's viewpoint to tell the difference between one scrum walking around and one of the props in the other retreating under pressure.

    I think it should be the tmo who looks at it and tells the ref. It should be classed as a yellow card offence. Its very hard to tell especially if the th is angling in. When the th stays straight its as plain as day. You could see slipper doijg it on the weekend...thats why ruddock came up I would say and he gets penalised. .... there's no way slippers head would have come out of that scrum if it was under ross' s chest like it was supposed to be.


  • #5
    blackdog1
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    clsmooth wrote: »
    Nigels Owens blew us up for it in 2012 in NZ. That didn't end well.

    Thought healy just killed his man that day but at least nigel was watching for it. When a lh walks around his head is literally at 90 degrees to the th and forcing him in.
    2nd rows feet are important too as you can see their not pushing straight but walking in a circle.


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