Curtain pole

Projectx

What wall plugs should I use in 62mm plasterboard to hang up a curtain pole.
Curtains/drapes are about 5' wide and 7' long and not to heavy.
Thanks

Sleeper12

Projectx wrote: »

What wall plugs should I use in 62mm plasterboard to hang up a curtain pole.
Curtains/drapes are about 5' wide and 7' long and not to heavy.
Thanks

There are no fixtures that can hold up a curtain pole and curtains in plasterboard.
The wall plugs new to go into the concrete behind the plasterboard. You will need to drill in 100mm. The tricky part is trying to get the plugs through the board into the concrete. Next you will need 100mm screws. If you feel you can't do this yourself then most good handymen hang curtain poles for €35 / €40 per pole though they may have a minimum fee.

confusedeire

Projectx wrote: »

What wall plugs should I use in 62mm plasterboard to hang up a curtain pole.
Curtains/drapes are about 5' wide and 7' long and not to heavy.
Thanks

My curtain poles are held up by plasterboard wall plugs. There metal plugs that screw in to the plaster board. And then curtain pole fixings screw to that.

http://woodiesdiy.tv/How-Plasterboard-Fixings-Work

Sleeper12

confusedeire wrote: »

My curtain poles are held up by plasterboard wall plugs. There metal plugs that screw in to the plaster board. And then curtain pole fixings screw to that.

http://woodiesdiy.tv/How-Plasterboard-Fixings-Work

Its not that the fixings wont hold up a curtain pole. The problem is the plasterboard wont support a curtain pole & curtains unless they are very light. Plasterboard is only chalk after all

genuine leather

Projectx,when you mark where the pole brackets are going, you can drill and fit a 8mm x 110mm express nail flush with the slab, you can then put a rawl plug inside the top of the express nail to take the screws to fix your curtain pole.

confusedeire

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Its not that the fixings wont hold up a curtain pole. The problem is the plasterboard wont support a curtain pole & curtains unless they are very light. Plasterboard is only chalk after all

All mine are still holding fine with no cracking on the wall after over 5yr for the ones I put up. And possibly 10yrs for the ones that are up when I moved in.

But each to there own

dodzy

Sleeper12 wrote: »

The problem is the plasterboard wont support a curtain pole & curtains unless they are very light. Plasterboard is only chalk after all

Plasterboard is more than capable. The key is using correct fittings.

Here is the correct one



And here is the wrong one

Sleeper12

confusedeire wrote: »

All mine are still holding fine with no cracking on the wall after over 5yr for the ones I put up. And possibly 10yrs for the ones that are up when I moved in.

But each to there own

I'm just pointing out to the op that plaster board is not strong enough to hold curtain pole & a ceiling to floor curtains. Some people are more heavy handed that others. Some curtains are heavier than others. Any tradesman will tell you you need to go back to the concrete.

Jimmy_M

Its not ideal going into plasterboard only - wherever possible i go into the baton holding the plasterboard (there's usually one just outside the perimeter of either side of the window) - but ive put many a curtain pole bracket up with these - they'll be fine as long as the plasterboards is sound and your kids arent wannabe tarzans.
http://www.ie.screwfix.com/spit-driva-tf27-countersunk-metal-plasterboard-fixings-50mm-pack-of-100.html

Edit: only saw dodzys post after i posted - the link is same as his second pic - guess i was wrong

dodzy

Jimmy_M wrote: »

Its not ideal going into plasterboard only - wherever possible i go into the baton holding the plasterboard (there's usually one just outside the perimeter of either side of the window) - but ive put many a curtain pole bracket up with these - they'll be fine as long as the plasterboards is sound and your kids arent wannabe tarzans.
http://www.ie.screwfix.com/spit-driva-tf27-countersunk-metal-plasterboard-fixings-50mm-pack-of-100.html

Edit: only saw dodzys post after i posted - the link is same as his second pic - guess i was wrong

Steer clear. These are "butcher" fittings.

Sleeper12

I think the OP has 62mm insulation plasterboards. He wont have batons. His boards will be tight to the wall. First rule of building, if you hang anything with weight make sure you get into the concrete. Any tradesman will tell you this. Its a lifetime job

Projectx

Thanks for all the help folks...
The boards are held in place with dabs and fixings and then skimmed.

If I'm to get back to the concrete what length screw and plug should I use.

Thanks.

dodzy

Projectx wrote: »

Thanks for all the help folks...
The boards are held in place with dabs and fixings and then skimmed.

If I'm to get back to the concrete what length screw and plug should I use.

Thanks.

If you are intent in getting to the concrete, then used 100x6mm fittings.

vidapura

This thread is very interesting reading .. I've just bought a house with drylining... and need to put up curtain poles.
They'll be heavy curtains.. so am wondering will the plasterboard support them?
The woodies video says to look for the studs rather than use plasterboard fittings..and they say buy a stud detector.

Can I please ask for a link to an example of an "express nail" ?
When I google it I just get sites for ladies nail treatments..heh..

genuine leather wrote: »

Projectx,when you mark where the pole brackets are going, you can drill and fit a 8mm x 110mm express nail flush with the slab, you can then put a rawl plug inside the top of the express nail to take the screws to fix your curtain pole.

Sleeper12

vidapura wrote: »

This thread is very interesting reading .. I've just bought a house with drylining... and need to put up curtain poles.
They'll be heavy curtains.. so am wondering will the plasterboard support them?
The woodies video says to look for the studs rather than use plasterboard fittings..and they say buy a stud detector.

Can I please ask for a link to an example of an "express nail" ?
When I google it I just get sites for ladies nail treatments..heh..

The problem here is you get DIY warriors giving advice & its not always correct. You'll get better advice from tradesmen doing this type of work on a daily basis.
Any tradesman will tell you Anything with weight needs to go back to concrete. Plasterboard on its own is not safe. Remember it's only made of chalk

http://www.trufix.ie/product/express-nails/

Personally I dont think express nails are suitable for curtain poles. For me they are too clumsy for the small holes required for curtain poles

kerryked

Would agree with Sleeper12 here.

You can use the plasterboard fixings and be picking your curtain poles up off the floor in 6 months time.

Or you can drill the extra 2 or 3 inches, get into the block and have a job you know will last forever.

vidapura

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Personally I dont think express nails are suitable for curtain poles. For me they are too clumsy for the small holes required for curtain poles

Right... so what DO you think would be the best thing for curtain poles ?
Bearing in mind the gap ..

Sleeper12

vidapura wrote: »

Right... so what DO you think would be the best thing for curtain poles ?
Bearing in mind the gap ..

What have you got? Do you have insulation boards? Is the wall batoned with insulation between the batons? Or is the plasterboard blobbed onto the concrete?

Wheety

Don't mean to be hijacking the thread but I have the same question and no point starting a new thread.

We had the house internally insulated. The boards are 4 inches with is around 100mm. Can anyone recommend screws and plugs long enough for this? Would rather get into the concrete.

Does the plug need to be as long or just the screw?

People are saying these don't need rawl plugs
http://www.ie.screwfix.com/easydrive-flat-countersunk-concrete-screws-7-5-x-120mm-pack-of-100.html

Sleeper12

Wheety wrote:

We had the house internally insulated. The boards are 4 inches with is around 100mm. Can anyone recommend screws and plugs long enough for this? Would rather get into the concrete.

Regular plugs. I use red plugs and 6mm bit. You'll need a longer than standard bit. 150mm screws screw thickness depending on pole holder hole size

vidapura

Sleeper12 wrote: »

What have you got? Do you have insulation boards? Is the wall batoned with insulation between the batons? Or is the plasterboard blobbed onto the concrete?

Its a 90's bungalow.
Dunno when it was drylined but Id imagine it was 90s too.

So, from pulling out a power socket, I see an airgap of about 2 inches.
Presumably its plasterboard nailed to 2 by 2 battens?

If I go to the brick my worry is that when I put the screws through the pole mount and squeeze.. that the plasterboard will cave in...crush..

I've no way to fill the gap with a spacer without major surgery...
And I only just painted the walls.. sigh..

I suppose I'll have to buy a batten locator.. but shure as sh*t the way this house is .. the battens won't be evenly spaced around the window..

ThisRegard

Picked up one of these years ago for settings plaster board anchors and never looked back after so much hassle with all sorts of different plugs up until that point.

http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/stanley-metal-anchor-setting-tool-kit-x27-fixings---stf71925-xj-166586

vidapura

And... the curtain poles wouldn't pull through the plasterboard no?

I'm plannin on putting up metal poles and heavy lined curtains like...

So I dunno how strong the plasterboard needs to be?
Thats why I'm thinkin studs at a minimum.. no?

ThisRegard wrote: »

Picked up one of these years ago for settings plaster board anchors and never looked back after so much hassle with all sorts of different plugs up until that point.

http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/stanley-metal-anchor-setting-tool-kit-x27-fixings---stf71925-xj-166586

ThisRegard

I used them to put up a pole that held some heavy curtains without issue, even with kids being a bit rough opening them. I wouldn't be hanging out of it but it certainly was more secure than previous hangings.

Studs would be best but as an alternative it's a decent solution.