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Tiger's New Coach

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  • #2
    cairny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭cairny


    Biomechanics.....uh oh.


  • #3
    HighLine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭HighLine


    Chris who?? I wonder is the wording of Tiger's tweet important ... "consulting"... He never said coach. Maybe Tiger wants more input into his own swing which would be good.


  • #4
    ShivasIrons
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭ShivasIrons


    cairny wrote: »
    Biomechanics.....uh oh.


    Why?


  • #5
    cairny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭cairny


    ShivasIrons wrote: »
    Why?

    Sean Foley was (I think) overly technical with Tiger, this guy sounds like more of the same. Unfair to judge him now I accept.


  • #6
    ShivasIrons
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭ShivasIrons


    cairny wrote: »
    Sean Foley was (I think) overly technical with Tiger, this guy sounds like more of the same. Unfair to judge him now I accept.

    I would have thought that you'd want an instructor who is very well versed in technique?

    Just because a coach knows the swing mechanics inside out doesn't mean they have to deliver an overly technical lessons.


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  • #7
    cairny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭cairny


    ShivasIrons wrote: »
    I would have thought that you'd want an instructor who is very well versed in technique?

    Just because a coach knows the swing mechanics inside out doesn't mean they have to deliver an overly technical lessons.

    Well versed in technique is a minimum requirement at any Pro level so that's a given.

    I've already said it's unfair to judge him now, he has to be given a chance.

    I just worry hearing about biomechanics, it was that kind of theory stuff that had him aiming out of bounds left off the tee trying to swing it back.

    Can't imagine Butch saying to his guys...."ok so, we're gonna discuss biomechanics today".

    Then again maybe I'm a Luddite.


  • #8
    ShivasIrons
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭ShivasIrons


    cairny wrote: »
    Well versed in technique is a minimum requirement at any Pro level so that's a given.

    I've already said it's unfair to judge him now, he has to be given a chance.

    I just worry hearing about biomechanics, it was that kind of theory stuff that had him aiming out of bounds left off the tee trying to swing it back.

    Can't imagine Butch saying to his guys...."ok so, we're gonna discuss biomechanics today".

    Then again maybe I'm a Luddite.

    Biomechanics is how the body moves in the swing. I haven't seen any biocmechanics theory stuff that has someone aim out of bounds left off the tee trying to swing it back.


  • #9
    cairny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭cairny


    ShivasIrons wrote: »
    Biomechanics is how the body moves in the swing. I haven't seen any biocmechanics theory stuff that has someone aim out of bounds left off the tee trying to swing it back.

    It just sounds like Foleys stuff to me...".saggital plane" etc. and he had him aiming out left and swinging it back, surely you accept that?

    I don't really have a problem with the theory stuff, it is interesting, I just don't think it's a good fit for Tiger at this stage, he's such a natural player that I think he'd do better with a light touch coach.

    It's just my worthless opinion.


  • #10
    mister gullible
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭mister gullible


    He'll give him a nice smooth rhythm, or maybe that's Perry..


  • #11
    ShivasIrons
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭ShivasIrons


    cairny wrote: »
    It just sounds like Foleys stuff to me...".saggital plane" etc. and he had him aiming out left and swinging it back, surely you accept that?

    I don't really have a problem with the theory stuff, it is interesting, I just don't think it's a good fit for Tiger at this stage, he's such a natural player that I think he'd do better with a light touch coach.

    It's just my worthless opinion.

    Manipulating the D-Plane is what golfers are doing by aiming further left and hitting down on the ball to zero out the path. That is not biomechanics.


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  • #12
    cairny
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    ShivasIrons wrote: »
    Manipulating the D-Plane is what golfers are doing by aiming further left and hitting down on the ball to zero out the path. That is not biomechanics.

    Ok I mentioned the aiming left thing not as an example of biomechanics but more as an example of where his last outing with the latest trendy teacher ended up. Foley's philosophy does also talk about axis and saggital planes etc which, as I understand it, is to do with biomechanics or at least an element of it.

    I'm not a critic of Foley, his stuff makes sense and is good for some golfers, it was a disaster for Tiger (and Westwood) though.

    You're ignoring my main point / concern that Tiger, being in the Top 2 most talented golfers in the world, does not need jump on the latest trendy bandwagon and that he'd do better keeping it simple and letting his talent come through.


  • #13
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Biomechanics.

    An aspect of Biomechancis is injury prevention.
    Don't know much about this new coach - but this is going to be a key aspect (Should be) - for Tiger at this stage.

    Would love to see him back. Don't like the bloke - but love the golfer.


  • #14
    cairny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭cairny


    There's 5 or 6 great years of Rory v Tiger clashes to come if he can get back, it would be a shame if that doesn't happen.

    It's hard to know why Tiger has picked him, if it is injury prevention then fair enough but if it's to build a new swing then I'd be worried.


  • #15
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    cairny wrote: »
    There's 5 or 6 great years of Rory v Tiger clashes to come if he can get back, it would be a shame if that doesn't happen.

    It's hard to know why Tiger has picked him, if it is injury prevention then fair enough but if it's to build a new swing then I'd be worried.

    By the way - I don't know.

    I'm just giving my opinion of what he needs - but I'm sure our opinions are not that important :):p


  • #16
    braddun
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭braddun


    tiger needs to fix his back


    until he does that hes never coming back


  • #17
    yettie1701
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭yettie1701


    FixdePitchmark wrote: »
    By the way - I don't know.

    I'm just giving my opinion of what he needs - but I'm sure our opinions are not that important :):p

    I bet tiger is on here every evening Fix trying to find out bits of info about clubs and open singles. Heard he is tryin to get a few .1s back before the atlantic coast Challange next year.....


  • #18
    Panrich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Panrich


    I wonder if he'll ever go back to Butch Harmon or is there too much bad blood there now?


  • #19
    shabalala
    Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭shabalala


    Panrich wrote: »
    I wonder if he'll ever go back to Butch Harmon or is there too much bad blood there now?

    Rumour has it he approached Butch, but itl never happen once Butch is still coaching Phil.


  • #20
    Panrich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Panrich


    shabalala wrote: »
    Rumour has it he approached Butch, but itl never happen once Butch is still coaching Phil.

    Makes sense. Butch's stock has certainly risen improving guys like Phil, Adam Scott, Ricky Fowler, Dustin Johnson and Jimmy Walker since this article was written in the wake of the split in 2002

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-301585/Why-Butch-thrown-Tigers-gravy-train.html


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