Ride reunion

loyatemu

http://pitchfork.com/news/57511-ride-reunite-announce-world-tour/

some people were suggesting this after Beady Eye broke up and freed Andy Bell from his satanic contract...

McTigs

I'd say they'll be on the festival circuit next summer

eviltimeban

Gigs announced:

05/22: Glasgow @ Barrowland
05/23: Manchester @ Albert Hall
05/24: London @ Roundhouse
05/26: Amsterdam @ Paradiso
05/27: Paris @ Olympia
05/29: Barcelona @ Primavera Festival
06/02: Toronto @ DanForth Music Hall
06/04: New York @ Terminal 5
06/07: London @ Field Day

I for one will be angling to get tickets for the London show. Will be awesome! And Mark Gardner said in the NME that they haven't ruled out doing a new album. Awesome!

Yes, glad that Andy is out of the Oasis / Beady Eye timewarp now. He deserves to front his own band and get the respect back. Ride were never hugely respected in their day but they are now, so that's good to see (could say the same for Slowdive but x10).

seachto7

A Ride/Swervedriver tour. Would like to see Ride for sure...

They should be a shoe in for the EP I'd say.

mosstin

Think I might go to the Manchester show out of curiosity if nothing else. Loved them as they came out just when I was developing a love for the whole MBV/Sonic Youth type of music. Still think their legacy has been romanticised a bit too much though. Thought their best work by far was in their initial EPs.

SilverScreen

I could see this coming so it was really no surprise. A show over here sometime next year would be great.

Their early EPs (Play, Ride and Fall), their debut album Nowhere and Today Forever EP are their best work. Going Blank Again is hit or miss, but then again it has Twisterella which is fantastic song.

eviltimeban

I loved Carnival of Light when it came out; still like most of it though I understand why others don't like it. I'd love it if they played Birdman or 1000 Miles. Tarantula I didn't like, though Walk On Water and one or two others were good.

I've had Nowhere on repeat the last few days...

Dandelion6

SilverScreen wrote: »

Their early EPs (Play, Ride and Fall), their debut album Nowhere and Today Forever EP are their best work. Going Blank Again is hit or miss, but then again it has Twisterella which is fantastic song.

Yes yes yes I agree with every word of this.

I cannot wait for this. Have to decide which gig to go to. Might go to all of them

anncoates

eviltimeban wrote: »

I've had Nowhere on repeat the last few days...

This plus EPs.

loyatemu

eviltimeban wrote: »

I loved Carnival of Light when it came out; still like most of it though I understand why others don't like it. I'd love it if they played Birdman or 1000 Miles. Tarantula I didn't like, though Walk On Water and one or two others were good.

I've had Nowhere on repeat the last few days...

CoL is OK, it's very derivative though. Tarantula is terrible, they'd already announced their split when it came out and it was deleted after a week, so they clearly didn't care at that stage.

Forget their later career though, this is why they're remembered so fondly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RCqKSBoYPI

Mr_Spaceman

I'm going to try for tickets for the London Roundhouse.

JAMC next week, Slowdive pre-Xmas, now Ride. Too much post-rave comedown fun!

Just need Moose, Chapterhouse and Lush for the full set now!

eviltimeban

Would love to see Slowdive but can't manage two London trips. So Ride it is. First time I saw them was in 1994 in the Tivoli - I was actually queuing to buy tickets for Oasis, who were also playing the Tivoli. I didn't know Ride were playing but saw a poster for them in HMV and I quickly changed my mind. At that point I was a far bigger Ride fan than Oasis. And it was a killer gig.

COL has a lot to offer - pretty much everything from track 1 to Birdman is excellent. And at the time they were actually praised for changing their sound. They still had the Byrds-y jangle but the noise was gone. I liked it, I thought it was a great step up. There's a b-side from that time called At The End Of The Universe which is fantastic too. I loved all the hammond organs, as played by Jon Lord from Deep Purple!

Tarantuala - well the single was good, Black Nite Crash. I also liked Dead Man, Walk On Water, and a b-side called Slave. The rest of it is pretty nasty however. Deep Inside My Pocket has to be the nadir.

Still though, if they do a new record they'll most likely do it in the style of Nowhere / GBA.

loyatemu

eviltimeban wrote: »

Still though, if they do a new record they'll most likely do it in the style of Nowhere / GBA.

Since GBA, Andy Bell has done CoL, Tarantula, 2 Hurricane #1 records, several Oasis albums and 2 Beady Eye albums. That's a lot of retro rock, going back to a noise-rock/shoegazing style may not be the easiest.

Can't comment on Mark Gardener's post-Ride stuff as I haven't heard it, but AFAIK he's released very little in the last 20 years.

eviltimeban

Yeah but all that was a reaction against Ride, to differentiate it. Hurricane was basically him trying to be Oasis, and he was hardly going to be bringing in shoegaze songs to Oasis sessions now was he?

From reading and hearing recent interviews, they are very aware of what the Ride legacy is now - the first two albums and the EPs. That's what they'll be playing at the gigs. If Ride were to move on, it would have to be in this direction. MBV did it - no reason why Ride can't. If Slowdive make a new album, its hardly going to sound like Pygmalion - or Mojave 3 for that matter. It'll be the "classic" sound.

Shoegaze can now exist rather respectfully, unlike 20 years ago when it was a dirty word. They know they'd get more respect making a shoegaze album than a 60s album.

eviltimeban

Just got tickets for the Roundhouse! Delighted.

roll

i'm quite surprised by the reaction to slowdive and ride re-forming... i think maybe they suffered at the hands of the 'all conquering' britpop fans at the time (oh the irony!). After seeing slowdive you probably would expect any new material to have a bit more of an edge but I wouldn't care less either way as long as they did release something! one point tho - the years haven't been good to mark gardener!

eviltimeban

roll wrote: »

the years haven't been good to mark gardener!

I know, pretty shocking to see him now if you hadn't seen him since the heyday - I had seen a few pics from 2005 I think so I knew he was losing his hair. But he's certainly lost that pin up look alright! :-)

I'd say Slowdive would sound even better now - their albums never sounded particularly great. They could have a more chunky sound but with all the reverb and vocals going on around it, would sound great.

Same goes for Ride - Nowhere is a bit mad sounding in places, production-wise. They couldn't make an album that sounds like that now. Albums from that era have a particular sound alright. I'd say any new Ride stuff would probably be a mix of the MBV album and some really bright 12 string guitar stuff.

Who knows though. Their sound was pretty groundbreaking at the time. They could break even newer ground.

mosstin

eviltimeban wrote: »

I know, pretty shocking to see him now if you hadn't seen him since the heyday - I had seen a few pics from 2005 I think so I knew he was losing his hair. But he's certainly lost that pin up look alright! :-)

I'd say Slowdive would sound even better now - their albums never sounded particularly great. They could have a more chunky sound but with all the reverb and vocals going on around it, would sound great.

Same goes for Ride - Nowhere is a bit mad sounding in places, production-wise. They couldn't make an album that sounds like that now. Albums from that era have a particular sound alright. I'd say any new Ride stuff would probably be a mix of the MBV album and some really bright 12 string guitar stuff.

Who knows though. Their sound was pretty groundbreaking at the time. They could break even newer ground.

I don't think it was remotely groundbreaking. It ploughed a similar furrow to many other bands of that era and it followed on from a template set by groundbreaking bands. Ride, by themselves, were, for a brief period, wonderful and refreshing but they never reinvented the wheel.

Alonso77

mosstin wrote: »

I don't think it was remotely groundbreaking. It ploughed a similar furrow to many other bands of that era and it followed on from a template set by groundbreaking bands. Ride, by themselves, were, for a brief period, wonderful and refreshing but they never reinvented the wheel.

Quite the opposite in my opinion, there were a deluge of bands at the time who were pale imitations of mbv and ride. Ride had a very different sound of their own compared to a lot of their contemporaries

mosstin

Alonso77 wrote: »

Quite the opposite in my opinion, there were a deluge of bands at the time who were pale imitations of mbv and ride. Ride had a very different sound of their own compared to a lot of their contemporaries

A different sound within a scene that was nowhere near groundbreaking. MBV were goundbreaking. Ride weren't.

Alonso77

mosstin wrote: »

A different sound within a scene that was nowhere near groundbreaking. MBV were goundbreaking. Ride weren't.

You do concede their sound was different to a lot of the shoegazers of the time, that's what I was taking issue with, as for groundbreaking it doesn't bother me whether they were considered that or not. Having said that, what bands pre ride do you feel had that template (i.e. the album nowhere 1990) already down?

Dandelion6

Ride were kind of distinct within the shoegaze scene for having such a strong Byrds influence, but I wouldn't call them groundbreaking as such. They were just really, really good.

Got tickets for Glasgow.

the years haven't been good to mark gardener!

No they haven't, Andy Bell is still rather tasty though.

sweetie

I'd managed to wipe Hurricane no. 1 from my memory until this thread
Never really got into Ride, a bit before my time. I do remember liking Birdman though.
Will go to a dublin gig if it happens. the reunion i'm hoping for is Boo Radleys.
Oh to hear Lazarus again in all it's glory!

mosstin

sweetie wrote: »

I'd managed to wipe Hurricane no. 1 from my memory until this thread
Never really got into Ride, a bit before my time. I do remember liking Birdman though.
Will go to a dublin gig if it happens. the reunion i'm hoping for is Boo Radleys.
Oh to hear Lazarus again in all it's glory!

Martin Carr has a new solo album out entitled 'The Breaks'.

Laura Palmer

Ah brilliant! I was only thinking about them the other day and how it was a shame such immensely talented musicians just kinda... faded away.

mosstin

Alonso77 wrote: »

You do concede their sound was different to a lot of the shoegazers of the time, that's what I was taking issue with, as for groundbreaking it doesn't bother me whether they were considered that or not. Having said that, what bands pre ride do you feel had that template (i.e. the album nowhere 1990) already down?

But if you look back at that whole pathetic 'scene' (MM referred to it as 'The Scene That Celebrates Itself' I think), Ride were rather lazily thrown in there in the same way bands who weren't remotely Britpop were later thrown under that same label. Ride were a very derivative band which was no bad thing, for a while at least.
Template? House of Love, MBV, Sonic Youth. Not sure I'd refer to it as a template though, just a sound they were clearly heavily influenced by.

eviltimeban

Groundbreaking in that they took a sound, that granted other bands were doing, but bolted it to strong melodies and took it to the charts. First Creation band to break the top 75, and Leave It All Behind went to number 9 in the charts. Think about that now! A 9 minute maelstrom of noise going top 10.

Groundbreaking in that they ... broke new ground.

Laura Palmer

They were derivative for sure. Back in 1991/2 I was only 13/14 and didn't have a clue about what The Small Faces/Byrds/post Rubber Soul Beatles/Velvet Underground sounded like, and now that I do, hell yeh, Ride owe them a lot.
But Ride still also gave their own distinctive flavour to the (fantastic) sounds that inspired them.

Mr_Spaceman

I missed out on Roundhouse tickets. All gone in the first fuzz of an effects pedal this morning.

Gah!

SilverScreen

All bands are derivative in some aspect. Unless you take four individuals, lock them in isolation for all their lives with no exposure to music, hand them musical instruments in their late teens and expect them to be able to play something.

Yes you can easily pick out Ride's influences, but they were still one of the best indie bands of the early 90's. Ok they weren't as influential as My Bloody Valentine and Slowdive but Nowhere is still regarded as a shoegaze cornerstone.

loyatemu

SilverScreen wrote:

All bands are derivative in some aspect. Unless you take four individuals, lock them in isolation for all their lives with no exposure to music, hand them musical instruments in their late teens and expect them to be able to play something.

that's how the Shaggs album came about. something of a acquired taste...

SilverScreen

loyatemu wrote: »

that's how the Shaggs album came about. something of a acquired taste...

The Shaggs are an exception to the rule

mosstin

SilverScreen wrote: »

All bands are derivative in some aspect. Unless you take four individuals, lock them in isolation for all their lives with no exposure to music, hand them musical instruments in their late teens and expect them to be able to play something.

Yes you can easily pick out Ride's influences, but they were still one of the best indie bands of the early 90's. Ok they weren't as influential as My Bloody Valentine and Slowdive but Nowhere is still regarded as a shoegaze cornerstone.

Perfectly aware of this. Just pointing out that in no way were they groundbreaking. Their early EPs were exciting, compelling and promising and their debut was, in parts, excellent. Just a really good indie band of their time and sometimes that's enough.

Alonso77

mosstin wrote: »

Perfectly aware of this. Just pointing out that in no way were they groundbreaking. Their early EPs were exciting, compelling and promising and their debut was, in parts, excellent. Just a really good indie band of their time and sometimes that's enough.

in your opinion of course.

eviltimeban

SilverScreen wrote: »

they weren't as influential as My Bloody Valentine and Slowdive but Nowhere is still regarded as a shoegaze cornerstone.

There's no way Slowdive were more influential than Ride. I'm not sure if you remember, but Slowdive was a dirty word until about a year ago when they reformed! :-) Ride were definitely more influential - even Billy Corgan said Ride were an influence on him, you can hear it in certain places (like Today sounding like Close My Eyes).

Slowdive were always considered lower on the rung, so it would've been MBV, Ride and then Slowdive (if not Chapterhouse or Lush next). Slowdive's timing was bad as their early EPs were good (though they came out about a year after MBV and Ride had set the scene) but their first album wasn't very good. It wasn't until Souvlaki in '93 that Slowdive really got it right, but at that point it was WAY too late. Anyway they did the sensible thing after Pygmalion by splitting and continuing in another form, Mojave 3, which did get Goswell and Halstead some respect.

Slowdive may have been popular, but they weren't as influential as Nowhere and especially the Smile album in the US.

SilverScreen

eviltimeban wrote: »

There's no way Slowdive were more influential than Ride. I'm not sure if you remember, but Slowdive was a dirty word until about a year ago when they reformed! :-) Ride were definitely more influential - even Billy Corgan said Ride were an influence on him, you can hear it in certain places (like Today sounding like Close My Eyes).

Slowdive were always considered lower on the rung, so it would've been MBV, Ride and then Slowdive (if not Chapterhouse or Lush next). Slowdive's timing was bad as their early EPs were good (though they came out about a year after MBV and Ride had set the scene) but their first album wasn't very good. It wasn't until Souvlaki in '93 that Slowdive really got it right, but at that point it was WAY too late. Anyway they did the sensible thing after Pygmalion by splitting and continuing in another form, Mojave 3, which did get Goswell and Halstead some respect.

Slowdive may have been popular, but they weren't as influential as Nowhere and especially the Smile album in the US.

Let's just say that I've heard more bands cite Slowdive as an influence over the years than Ride. This even includes metal bands such as Katatonia and Alcest, post-rock bands such as Mogwai (who met at a Slowdive gig) and countless shoegaze and dream-pop bands. This isn't the inner fanboy in me talking by the way.

Also I don't remember Slowdive being a dirty word up to a year ago. I've seen tons of people online worshipping them and crying for them to reform. Souvlaki has been held in very high regard for years now along with Loveless and Nowhere. Hindsight can be a wonderful thing.

eviltimeban

SilverScreen wrote: »

Hindsight can be a wonderful thing.

Exactly. And with hindsight, Slowdive could be said to be influential. But at the time, no. Ride were way more popular, way more respected, had way more airplay, and therefore would've been way more influential.

mewso

I'm late to the party. Looks like the first 3 shows are sold out. Anyone remember seeing them in Mcgonagles back in the day? Amazing gig.

Swiper the fox

Ride were a great band back in the day, vapour trail was almost the soundtrack to one of my summers but Crown of creation off carnival of light is my favourite of their songs.

eviltimeban

Ride playing Coachella.

Only a matter of time before they are added to the Electric Picnic bill I would say.

seachto7

On a Ride related note, there is a new Swervedriver album due out in a few months as well. Maybe they might also get added to the Electric Picnic bill \m/

mewso

Electric Picnic. Stopping me from seeing bands I'd like to see for years. Sure it's only Ireland. A spot at a festival will do.

Eileen Down

They're also playing at a festival in O Porto next June. A short two hour drive from my house, it would be a terrible crime to miss it but huge festivals terrify me.

sweetie

Eileen Down wrote:

They're also playing at a festival in O Porto next June. A short two hour drive from my house, it would be a terrible crime to miss it but huge festivals terrify me.

primavera, amazing festival!

Eileen Down

sweetie wrote: »

primavera, amazing festival!

I'm very tempted!
I've been to a few small festivals in Portugal and the thing that stands out about them is how well people behave. There's just no bother at all at them, everybody is so chilled.

sweetie

Eileen Down wrote:

I'm very tempted! I've been to a few small festivals in Portugal and the thing that stands out about them is how well people behave. There's just no bother at all at them, everybody is so chilled.

I only go to foreign festivals now, the weather, the late hours and the people make it so much better

Eileen Down

sweetie wrote: »

I only go to foreign festivals now, the weather, the late hours and the people make it so much better

You might like this one in the north of Portugal, about an hour drive outside O Porto. For a small festival they always have a great line up of acts. Great facilities, you never have to que for beers. And of course a polite and well behaved cool crowd of people.
Tickets are really affordable too, 90 euro's for the weekend with camping.


http://www.paredesdecoura.com/2014

eviltimeban

I agree that festivals in Ireland have taken away bands that might normally pay a venue. I remember when Sigur Ros were touring Valtari they only played Electric Picnic, and I was dying to see them but wasn't going fork out hundreds to stand in the cold surrounded by a loud of drunk idiots and girls in wellies and shorts. OK that part of it may not have been that bad but you know what I mean.

Festivals in warm countries, I've only heard good things about them. Now I was lucky enough to get a Roundhouse ticket for Ride so don't need to worry about it!

roll

eviltimeban wrote: »

I agree that festivals in Ireland have taken away bands that might normally pay a venue.

Seeing slowdive at EP last year was great but I'm now desperate to see them in a proper venue! Festivals are fine for bands you've seen before or bands you don't know a whole pile about-but a band your dying to see? a festival is not the place.....

seachto7

Slowdive toured with Low in American recently. Would have been some show.... Surely Ride will play in Ireland....

Anesthetize

seachto7 wrote: »

Slowdive toured with Low in American recently. Would have been some show.... Surely Ride will play in Ireland....

They probably will but my guess would be Electric Picnic. Somehow I can't see them being booked for an indoor venue in Ireland.