Irish Vintage mag

Capri

Still going strong and well produced, great effort for the small scene here and good for supplier / show info.

MK 1 1300E

Capri glad you are enjoying it we do our best to provide an alternative over imported magazines. Its a small market and we love what we do, its always great to get a clap in the back. I hope we can bring you the best of our hobby in Ireland each month. December issue on the shelf's right now.

Capri

Nice to see stuff that's relevant to here, might even see some of my previous motors featured at some stage - remembered the Capri 3000GT XLR 1269 Z in July issue, identical to my first 3000GT XLR even the colour and the Quinns plates - can't find photo of mine to check reg tho', think it ended in YI

Zoo4m8

Capri wrote: »

Still going strong and well produced, great effort for the small scene here and good for supplier / show info.

Couldn't agree more.. Rang to renew my sub last year and Tom answered the phone, very happy to chat and came across as the real enthuiast I always reckoned you'd have to be to run a project like this in Ireland.

classiccarman

+1 Great magazine, well worth the subscription, look forward to it every month.

CCM

ba_barabus

Not a mag I've learned to appreciate myself but others seem to enjoy it.

MK 1 1300E

Great your all enjoying it and as the Christmas approaches nice time to get a subscription as a pressie so drop the hints.
Capri YI was Dublin reg ran from Sept 1970 to Feb 1971.

mattroche

Yes Tom, A lovely Xmas present. My wife got it for me, a Years Sub. for 2011, and every year since. This Classic scene is a worse addiction than drink.!! Much better than the Pub or the Bookies. Out every Sun. from March to Oct. Keep it up. I hope you will organise it again in Galway Racecourse again Next Year. Best Wishes to EMMA, and I am sure, so say all of us.

rubin_spitfire

Quite an enjoyable read. Have only read one issue, last month's issue - the calender is a cool idea, I'm trying to get into the Classic scene in Ireland having just moved to Ireland in August. Have a few cars I'd like to get "out there" into the scene, and the calender was a good insight into upcoming shows. Will be subscribing soon.

Max Headroom

Theres just not any practical stuff in it for me....i like to be told/shown how to do stuff myself....Its well produced, and tbh working in the print industry for years im impressed that they can produce it on quality weight paper for that price....

chevyv8

i love the magazine, have every one of them since day one, and really enjoy retro classic as well, ive been in them both a few times, always a good and interesting read from both mags, keep up the good work.

carchaeologist

Max Headroom wrote: »

Theres just not any practical stuff in it for me....i like to be told/shown how to do stuff myself....Its well produced, and tbh working in the print industry for years im impressed that they can produce it on quality weight paper for that price....

I would imagine the advertisers are a big part in this.
It is a nicely finished magazine it has to be said.

weadick

Excellent magazine. Great quality to it both in terms of the overall feel as well as the articles themselves which are really well written, by people who have a real appreciation of what they're writing about, it seems to me anyway.

Silvera

Max Headroom wrote: »

Theres just not any practical stuff in it for me....i like to be told/shown how to do stuff myself....Its well produced, and tbh working in the print industry for years im impressed that they can produce it on quality weight paper for that price....

I too feel that this is an area which the magazine needs to develop. It would really add to the magazine, and draw in additional readership.

goochy

i think as with most irish things( classic car shows especially) its not as good as it should be . rather that have an expensive to make glossy publication i would like more content/ reading material. how about testing out classic cars that are advertised like uk mags do , visiting the few classic specialists we have in ireland , reporting on foreign places of interest to classic car enthuasists or doing reports on future classics etc.. i would not spend good money on something with so little to read in it.

swarlb

goochy wrote: »

i think as with most irish things( classic car shows especially) its not as good as it should be . rather that have an expensive to make glossy publication i would like more content/ reading material. how about testing out classic cars that are advertised like uk mags do , visiting the few classic specialists we have in ireland , reporting on foreign places of interest to classic car enthuasists or doing reports on future classics etc.. i would not spend good money on something with so little to read in it.

I very rarely buy this, usually only if there is something of interest in it, to me.
However, the fact that it actually exists, and comes out every month is almost a miracle in itself.
Why do we constantly have to compare ourselves with the UK. They have millions upon millions of more people, cars, customers, classic cars, non classic cars, boats,, planes, trains...whatever, more than we will ever have.
How many different car publications are in print in the UK ? dozens if not hundreds. the fact that we have ONE is a bonus.
The classic car scene in Ireland is tiny compared to the UK, there are one make clubs over there with more classics then we have in the entire country.
You could probably print a magazine once a month on the Mini in the UK, and it would have a following.
You could probably print a magazine in the UK on classics built in 1960, all painted red, and you'd still have a following over there.
All in all, it's a damn fine publication, and can only get better.

Max Headroom

swarlb wrote: »

I very rarely buy this, usually only if there is something of interest in it, to me.
However, the fact that it actually exists, and comes out every month is almost a miracle in itself.
Why do we constantly have to compare ourselves with the UK. They have millions upon millions of more people, cars, customers, classic cars, non classic cars, boats,, planes, trains...whatever, more than we will ever have.
How many different car publications are in print in the UK ? dozens if not hundreds. the fact that we have ONE is a bonus.
The classic car scene in Ireland is tiny compared to the UK, there are one make clubs over there with more classics then we have in the entire country.
You could probably print a magazine once a month on the Mini in the UK, and it would have a following.
You could probably print a magazine in the UK on classics built in 1960, all painted red, and you'd still have a following over there.
All in all, it's a damn fine publication, and can only get better.

Because most of the cars here have english birth certs.....:p

Seriously though...if IVM had articles on best tools/underseal/rust products etc etc and "how to " articles then i might stop buying the brit stuff , but until then....
I'm just putting this out there BUT...from what I'VE seen /heard, theres just not that much knowledge in this country...and to find people that are willing to give up their time to produce a 5000 word article every month would be near impossible..IMO....;)

Capri

Max Headroom wrote: »

Because most of the cars here have english birth certs.....:p

Seriously though...if IVM had articles on best tools/underseal/rust products etc etc and "how to " articles then i might stop buying the brit stuff , but until then....
I'm just putting this out there BUT...from what I'VE seen /heard, theres just not that much knowledge in this country...and to find people that are willing to give up their time to produce a 5000 word article every month would be near impossible..IMO....;)

I just like to see old ORIGINAL IRISH cars in Irish Vintage that have been restored / or are daily driven.

( It bring me back to a 'better' time when I could drive around unmolested by the Gardai over NCT / Insurance / Tax , I had a Garage policy and a change of ownership slip in the tax holder :rolleyes:Nowadays you have to have every t crossed and i dotted before you open your garage door or the car will be seized as soon as you hit the road - zero tolerance, or revenue collection :mad: )

And there's the ad's for services or cars available HERE, not 2 days away in ...........shire
If I'm doing a rebuild then Practical Classics, but for local info / nostalgia then it's Irish Vintage ( MAYBE Irish Vintage should team up with Motoring Life and do old Motoring Life sections/pull outs )

whisky_galore

Max Headroom wrote: »

Because most of the cars here have english birth certs.....:p

I'm just putting this out there BUT...from what I'VE seen /heard, theres just not that much knowledge in this country...and to find people that are willing to give up their time to produce a 5000 word article every month would be near impossible..IMO....;)

Very small pool relative to our tiny population. A sizeable number of lads wouldn't have a clue and have never restored a heap from scratch themselves, just buy a pre-restored uk reg and ship her over to have sh*ts and giggles doing runs with a club. Then there are the experts that keep themselves to themselves and would never dream of submitting an article to a magazine.

Max Headroom

whisky_galore wrote: »

Very small pool relative to our tiny population. A sizeable number of lads wouldn't have a clue and have never restored a heap from scratch themselves, just buy a pre-restored uk reg and ship her over to have sh*ts and giggles doing runs with a club. Then there are the experts that keep themselves to themselves and would never dream of submitting an article to a magazine.

You mean everyone at Terenure :eek:......:p

Sadly this is true...you'd be lucky if they'll even talk to you if you dont have a "prestige" car.....

Sabre Man

I've bought a few issues in the past but found there were too many tractors and other farm machinery for my liking.

weadick

As previously said it is a miracle that this mag exists at all, I still get a bit surprised when I see it on the shelves. It is extremely well produced and put together and any article that's in it is always well written.

I'd sooner spend a fiver on this than most of the UK mags any day. If it was as bad as some of ye are suggesting it wouldn't have survived this long, not a hope. Great to see an Irish enterprise going well.

mattroche

Weadick, I will second that.

clogher71

mattroche wrote: »

Weadick, I will second that.

Me too....

26000 Elephants

weadick wrote: »

As previously said it is a miracle that this mag exists at all, I still get a bit surprised when I see it on the shelves. It is extremely well produced and put together and any article that's in it is always well written.

I'd sooner spend a fiver on this than most of the UK mags any day. If it was as bad as some of ye are suggesting it wouldn't have survived this long, not a hope. Great to see an Irish enterprise going well.

I agree. Their is a certain mentality in this country that we cannot do as well as our English counterparts. Utter rubbish. Its just that we have a smaller market.

Read my first copy of this a few weeks ago ( Fiat Argenta story intrigued me) and I have to say I was well impressed. The photography was excellent, considering our bad light here!!

Well done to the team involved.

Capri

whisky_galore wrote: »

Very small pool relative to our tiny population. A sizeable number of lads wouldn't have a clue and have never restored a heap from scratch themselves, just buy a pre-restored uk reg and ship her over to have sh*ts and giggles doing runs with a club. Then there are the experts that keep themselves to themselves and would never dream of submitting an article to a magazine.

I met an 'expert' who told me my Shelby 'wasn't a real one' :mad: - my subsequent sale of it to an English enthuiast sorted that chap out :P

Another boss of a company who couldn't drive a month without a prang in his Jag bought his 'classic' from the UK for big bucks, but it only had the basic engine instead of the 'real' McCoy - he just wanted to 'show off' instead of knowing his cars and engines ( and values !)

I love talking to people who are on the same wavelength as me,and you do meet up with a lot of them at shows regularily, but there's others who don't know their Chevrolets from Chryslers, and others who see 'Bentley' taxis (300C's with 'B' badging :P ), I humour them and try to 'correct' their mistakes without putting them down :rolleyes:

whisky_galore

Sabre Man wrote: »

I've bought a few issues in the past but found there were too many tractors and other farm machinery for my liking.

Can't please everyone, there is a big tractor following out there, like it or not.

Capri

whisky_galore wrote: »

Can't please everyone, there is a big tractor following out there, like it or not.

That's why everyone buys a 'daysel' car here :rolleyes:

Sabre Man

whisky_galore wrote: »

Can't please everyone, there is a big tractor following out there, like it or not.

I've nothing against tractor lovers, but I believe there are several magazines catering for them.

whisky_galore

Sabre Man wrote: »

I've nothing against tractor lovers, but I believe there are several magazines catering for them.

The clue is in the title, Irish Vintage Magazine, not Irish Car Magazine.

swarlb

Sabre Man wrote: »

I've nothing against tractor lovers, but I believe there are several magazines catering for them.

There possibly is, but including this type of material is possibly what makes the magazine successful. Like it or not, Ireland is an agricultural country, so the chances that someone having an appreciation for an old Minor and a Ferguson would be fairly likely.
Remove the tractor 'stuff', and it's doubtful the magazine would succeed to the same degree.
The same criticism could be pointed at UK magazine, I personally have no interest in MG's, Jaguars or TR's, yet practically every UK magazine, will , every month be guaranteed to either have a few articles on those makes, have one on the cover, and feature many, many advertisements supporting these makes.
Most people buy magazines for an article, or a few topics that interest them. Very few people, would buy a UK publication, every month, read it from cover to cover, and announce "Brilliant, I really cannot wait till next month"

Kenny Logins

Eh, they also publish Retro Classic quarterly.

Max Headroom

Kenny Logins wrote: »

Eh, they also publish Retro Classic quarterly.

You know i was talking to a guy in Terenure who said that this type of magazine isnt for classic car lovers...but "butchers"....true story..

Its the only irish mag i buy ....;)

Capri

Max Headroom wrote: »

You know i was talking to a guy in Terenure who said that this type of magazine isnt for classic car lovers...but "butchers"....true story..

Its the only irish mag i buy ....;)

Here's a real 'butchered' classic for him

From this

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/rover-p4/8099143

to :eek:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/unfinished-hot-rod-project/8231212

:rolleyes:

Max Headroom

Capri wrote: »

Here's a real 'butchered' classic for him

From this

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/rover-p4/8099143

to :eek:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/unfinished-hot-rod-project/8231212

:rolleyes:

I'd agree with him on that one....some cars just dont rod.....looked like a half-arsed sled attempt....

ba_barabus

Max Headroom wrote: »

I'd agree with him on that one....some cars just dont rod.....looked like a half-arsed sled attempt....

I think that spent a long time parked near the sea in Sandymount. I'd say it's scrap.

Alfasudcrazy

Its a great mag all right and I love to read about peoples classic cars and the classifieds. Fiar play for making it a success. Some weeks though there are too many tractors / trucks etc in it for me to buy it.

Max Headroom

Maybe theres more people restoring tractors and trucks than there are importing cars....;)

BTW...why is the IVS web site so lightly attended.....

whisky_galore

Max Headroom wrote: »

Maybe theres more people restoring tractors and trucks than there are importing cars....;)

BTW...why is the IVS web site so lightly attended.....

Would be interesting to get the stats on this, many field days tractors outnumber cars.
Tractors can get dog's abuse over a working life, getting relegated to scraping dung or other duties when a newer one comes on the scene so there's many older survivors, can stand out on a field or a yard for 20 or 30+ years and many are perfectly restorable afterwards.

hi5

Max Headroom wrote: »

Maybe theres more people restoring tractors and trucks than there are importing cars....;)

BTW...why is the IVS web site so lightly attended.....

Its a lot easier to restore a tractor than a car, sand blaster in one hand and a spray gun in the other:D

But where are all the old Irish buses, you never see any vintage busses at shows or in the vintage magazine, I know there are a few CIE ones and the yellow fiberglass school bus from the 70's.
Did they get broken up for their metal, or is it the whole DOE/ seatbelts/regulations etc.

whisky_galore

The crap state of Irish roads put paid to many older buses and commercials, plus not many people here could afford to buy, keep and maintain them.

Also way smaller pool of vehicles compared to uk and we don't have a 'tradition' of maintaining our heritage as they do. The vintage movement was pretty slow to take off here and become something approaching mainstream.

corktina

hi5 wrote: »

Its a lot easier to restore a tractor than a car, sand blaster in one hand and a spray gun in the other:D

But where are all the old Irish buses, you never see any vintage busses at shows or in the vintage magazine, I know there are a few CIE ones and the yellow fiberglass school bus from the 70's.
Did they get broken up for their metal, or is it the whole DOE/ seatbelts/regulations etc.

you don't see many but they are out there. Always a treat to come across one

desmo58

I can't put up a link but if you search for Dublin Port Rally 2014 in Google Images there's some preserved buses there.

Capri

I think in the past the CIE/Dublin Bus/BusEireann buses had to be scrapped/sold out of the state for (customs?) reasons. Maybe the Transport Museum might know the reasons ?

Max Headroom

Am i wrong or is there some DJ who has an old double-decker...???

Capri

Max Headroom wrote: »

Am i wrong or is there some DJ who has an old double-decker...???

DJ DD :p:p

Max Headroom

Capri wrote: »

DJ DD :p:p

...in D bus.....komin at ya.....:)


mmmm....lot of tractors this month...:o

..and a feature on the bus show on the quays.....

Funny...i must have missed the Leopardstown Classic bike show feature.....:rolleyes:

Capri

Observations on this month's mag, and Retro Classics - there really is something for everyone-in-the-audience

One letter writer talks about the 126/Bambino names - AFIR it was marketed by Fiat Ireland as the 126 Bambino ,
translated quote from a Polish site

The colloquial name of Fiat 126p in Poland is called a toddler, Maluchem, unlike the Fiat 125p, called the big Fiat. In some regions, it is also called Kaszlak (engine sound reminds cough when it is launched). In Albania, is known as Kikirez. In Croatia and Serbia is known as Peglica (diminutive Pegla = "iron"), Slovenia, as Bolha ("flea"), Pici-for now (loosely translated as "free and loud") or the Slovenian coast KALIMERO (dc . "cardboard"). The Hungarian language is known as kispolszki ("Little Polish", 125p is called "nagypolszki" which means "large Polish"), kispolák or torpe-Polyak, where "kis" means small, "torpe" dwarf, a "Polak "or" Polyak "is archaic determining the Poles. There are also car was nicknamed "egérkamion" or "mouse truck." In Germany and Ireland (and in the UK, but to a lesser extent) Fiat 126 was known as the "Bambino" (aka. "child")

There are some tractors with smaller plates using the 'euro' characters that look well but in general I still think that the older size letters look more 'proper' on older cars.

I love the small ads in the back too, better descriptions than some of the DD lads.

Retro Classics seems to deal with the sportier classics and might be better for those who are more focused on cars alone instead of the overall vintage machinery scene. I like the 1303 and the 'innocent' Kadett C 1.8, a real sleeper (and there's a 'build' section for those here who wanted to see that part of the resto ) For a quarterly it's definitely full of good stuff especially seeing as Ireland has only a fraction of the UK's population of classics

Max Headroom

Yeah its the Retro for me anyways...the only gripe i have, and its going to sound silly, is that the featured car articles are too long....i reckon they could get an extra article or two in there.....and not enough bikes either...theres wayy more old bikes out there...:)