Russell Brand on water charges! Do your worst!

FullblownRose

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/russell-brand-wades-into-water-charges-row-297814.html

The_Valeyard

I do not like Russell Brand.
I do not like the Irish accent he puts on.
I do like like his hair.



But I agree with what he says.

FullblownRose

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I do not like Russell Brand.
I do not like the Irish accent he puts on.
I do like like his hair.



But I agree with what he says.

He seems to have mellowed with age. slightly!

He still looks like he might leap up at any moment and take a running jump through the window, cackling maniacally, father jack style

El Weirdo

FullblownRose wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/russell-brand-wades-into-water-charges-row-297814.html

Wow, thanks for the link. Saves me going to Reddit.

Don't Chute!

This from a guy who clearly never uses water.

Specialun

El Weirdo wrote: »

Wow, thanks for the link. Saves me going to Reddit.

That's impressive sarcasm. I applaud that

bnt

So the incoherent is indignant about the incomprehensible. Or is it the other way around?

Egginacup

black and amber wrote: »

This from a guy who clearly never uses water.

That was brilliant!

The Backwards Man

Has quite the track record of offending people with different accents, does Russell.

That's the only remotely interesting thing about him

Streetwalker

Have to say never liked him few years back but by jesus he speaks I lot of sense now.

BoJack Horseman

I miss Russell's radio show.
Him & Matt Morgan & Noel Gallagher made some good radio.

Foxhound38

Water charges aside (I'm undecided on this - IW is a mess though, that's undeniable) - that floppy haired tosser can fcuk off

dquinnan

"Fight back against rich capitalists, but make sure to visit my web site and buy my $37 Russell as Che Guevara t-shirts though!"

Ann22

I like him:)

The Backwards Man

Streetwalker wrote: »

Have to say never liked him few years back but by jesus he speaks I lot of sense now.

Sense?!
I just got more sense out of my dog when I asked her why she ate my toe nail clippings

iDave

The only funny thing about him is his pathetic attempt to re-brand (pun not intended) himself as some sort of intellectual fighting for the common man. Odd he needed to go down the populist route after his shameful prank-call stunt.

In Lonesome Dove

I heard of the name Russell Brand before but I'll be completely honest, I don't know who he is or what he does? Is he a singer? An acter? A comedian? I suppose a Google will sort that out for me.

I watched his video last night about Irish water and I admire him for it.

FullblownRose

In Lonesome Dove wrote: »

I heard of the name Russell Brand before but I'll be completely honest, I don't know who he is or what he does? Is he a singer? An acter? A comedian? I suppose a Google will sort that out for me.

I watched his video last night about Irish water and I admire him for it.

Big Brother, the tv show, or something like that. Famous for being famous

elefant

Are the water charges not paying for the water infrastructure and treatment rather than the water itself? I don't understand how this amounts to being charged for a human right.

I don't really get the fuss about having to pay for water services, aside from the fact that the water quality isn't great (you'd hope paying for the service would lead to an improvement) and Irish Water seems predictably shadily structured. Wikipedia, the great bastion of all accurate information, tells me that the 'lowest water tariffs in the world are found in Ireland and Turkmenistan, where residential water is provided for free'.

Would Brand agree that every single country in the world apart from Turkmenistan is violating human rights by charging for water services?

[I'm not living in Ireland at the moment so maybe I'm missing some of the intricacies of why everyone seems so pissed off. If so, could someone relieve my ignorance?]

Duggy747

He really is going for that martyr / messiah look with that thing around his head and the Che Guevara thumbnail.

jamesbere

elefant wrote: »

Are the water charges not paying for the water infrastructure and treatment rather than the water itself? I don't understand how this amounts to being charged for a human right.

I don't really get the fuss about having to pay for water services, aside from the fact that the water quality isn't great (you'd hope paying for the service would lead to an improvement) and Irish Water seems predictably shadily structured. Wikipedia, the great bastion of all accurate information, tells me that the 'lowest water tariffs in the world are found in Ireland and Turkmenistan, where residential water is provided for free'.

Would Brand agree that every single country in the world apart from Turkmenistan is violating human rights by charging for water services?

[I'm not living in Ireland at the moment so maybe I'm missing some of the intricacies of why everyone seems so pissed off. If so, could someone relieve my ignorance?]

So can we just send all the protesters to Turkmenistan

c_man

elefant wrote: »

[I'm not living in Ireland at the moment so maybe I'm missing some of the intricacies of why everyone seems so pissed off. If so, could someone relieve my ignorance?]

We're already paying for water through general taxation. Being asked to pay for something twice, and which has been made a complete balls of by the gov == people pissed off.

Micky Dolenz

Is it the dude from Rubber Bandits doing the jingle at the end?

mikom

elefant wrote: »

[I'm not living in Ireland at the moment so maybe I'm missing some of the intricacies of why everyone seems so pissed off. If so, could someone relieve my ignorance?]

Not in Ireland?
You won't be paying for water twice so.

FullblownRose wrote: »

Big Brother, the tv show, or something like that. Famous for being famous

Yeah, just that........

The Russell Brand Show, Forgetting Sarah Marshall, Get Him to the Greek Brand X, Ponderland, From Addiction to Recovery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBA6qlHW8po

FullblownRose

mikom wrote: »

Yeah, just that........

Well, that's all that I know about him. Is he famous for something else?

c_man

FullblownRose wrote: »

Is he famous for something else?

Yep.

FullblownRose

c_man wrote: »

Yep.

The spoiler part was added after I replied there. I haven't seen/ read them.

Little CuChulainn

Streetwalker wrote: »

Have to say never liked him few years back but by jesus he speaks I lot of sense now.

I have always hated him and everything he said has been wrong in the past but because his view is the same as mine on this one particular issue I'm willing to ignore all his past and hold him up as a representative of the Gods.

c_man

FullblownRose wrote: »

The spoiler part was added after I replied there. I haven't seen/ read them.

Regardless, I don't accept that you (and others) are not capable of a simple google search.

denhaagenite

Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day. He's a tw*t with many a populist agenda, and by the calibre of this gem, he clearly thinks he's of a superior nationality to us.

Funny how he likes to bash elitism and then there's lovely pics like this floating around the place:

russell brand.png

I betcha there was actually (not pictured) four burly men holding him back from attacking her.

Micky Dolenz

c_man wrote: »

Regardless, I don't accept that you (and others) are not capable of a simple google search.

I often couldn't be bothered me arse googling something. It's easier to ask someone else do it.

FullblownRose

c_man wrote: »

Regardless, I don't accept that you (and others) are not capable of a simple google search.

That's ok, we don't mind if you accept it or not. Maybe we're not that interested in his past work

elefant

c_man wrote: »

We're already paying for water through general taxation. Being asked to pay for something twice, and which has been made a complete balls of by the gov == people pissed off.

I did a search online to learn more about this 'taxed twice for water' concept but I couldn't find anything concrete about it, only some bits like comments from protesters who were marching and referred to it. Do you have something you could link to so I can read up on it? If that is the case then the frustration could be more understandable.

Too Tough To Die

iDave wrote: »

The only funny thing about him is his pathetic attempt to re-brand (pun not intended) himself as some sort of intellectual fighting for the common man. Odd he needed to go down the populist route after his shameful prank-call stunt.

This isn't new with him. Although he does seem to be more politically focused of late.

Rabo Karabekian

elefant wrote: »

I did a search online to learn more about this 'taxed twice for water' concept but I couldn't find anything concrete about it, only some bits like comments from protesters who were marching and referred to it. Do you have something you could link to so I can read up on it? If that is the case then the frustration could be more understandable.

You don't need a link to it. We have been paying for water prior to Irish Water through general taxation. How else do you think it was being paid for?

Now, with Irish Water, we will be charged a further amount for water. Hence the being 'charged twice'.

ShowMeTheCash

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Has quite the track record of offending people with different accents, does Russell.

That's the only remotely interesting thing about him

I find it funny when people comment like this!
I am sure Russell would be offended by ... who??

ShowMeTheCash

FullblownRose wrote: »

That's ok, we don't mind if you accept it or not. Maybe we're not that interested in his past work

I actually remember him back when he worked for MTV on the dance scene.
He used to be off his chops half the time but he was pretty funny, I think MTV had to give him the boot as he was out of control.

denhaagenite

Rabo Karabekian wrote: »

You don't need a link to it. We have been paying for water prior to Irish Water through general taxation. How else do you think it was being paid for?

Now, with Irish Water, we will be charged a further amount for water. Hence the being 'charged twice'.

So "general taxation" doesn't cover power showers, overfull cisterns, broken public and private infrastructure and general wastefulness- then what? The Irish public are so conscientious that they can absolutely be trusted to look after the future of water in Ireland without having to pay for what they use, is it?

It's a big money hole. The setting up of IW is shady as hell, protest all you like about that for sure but don't be fooled by the great unwashed benefitters who are only complaining because they're not liable for property tax or universal social charge and are finally being called to task about something.

elefant

Rabo Karabekian wrote: »

You don't need a link to it. We have been paying for water prior to Irish Water through general taxation. How else do you think it was being paid for?

Now, with Irish Water, we will be charged a further amount for water. Hence the being 'charged twice'.

Is Road Tax also double-taxation then?

Also, what happens if more funds are needed to keep water services functioning? Do we take money from other important services? Or does general taxation need to be raised?

The Backwards Man

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

I find it funny when people comment like this!
I am sure Russell would be offended by ... who??

I was referring to him as the offender, not the offendee.

Micky Dolenz

elefant wrote: »

Is Road Tax also double-taxation then?

Sure is.

So where do you draw the line? Never?

smash

I'd take it more seriously if he dropped the accent and didn't dress like a nun.

DrumSteve

I think he's alright.

c_man

FullblownRose wrote: »

That's ok, we don't mind if you accept it or not. Maybe we're not that interested in his past work

So why even ask?!

FullblownRose

c_man wrote: »

So why even ask?!

I didn't. Someone else wasn't sure who he was.

keithclancy

I need to wash (sparingly) after watching him.

Mrs Garth Brooks

Fair play to him. What other Irish celebrity is helping us out. Is Bono? It takes a British bloke to.

I see he's making an appearance on American TV next week on the same day as Garth Brooks. Wonder would he care about Irish Water as much as Russell Brand? ... Though I doubt he's there to tell the Americans about our fight with Irish Water.

everlast75

He makes some very valid points.

86 Million in Consultants???

Huge tax deficit paid by large businesses? And before anyone jumps in with "what would you prefer - that they leave?" the answer is no, but they can pay a little more than currently I am sure. I'm not talking about the 2 Billion needed (apparently) to fix and maintain the infrastructure, but a greater contribution.

Further, absolutely nothing was said to the public in terms of water conservation before this was slapped on as another tax. If they were concerned about irish water as a resource, perhaps some education in the same manner as energy conservation would have been in order.

It is clearly a money grab and the Government are being called on it.

Hope more comedians/public figures make videos about it.

denhaagenite

Mrs Garth Brooks wrote: »

Fair play to him. What other Irish celebrity is helping us out. Is Bono? It takes a British bloke to.

I see he's making an appearance on American TV next week on the same day as Garth Brooks. Wonder would he care about Irish Water as much as Russell Brand? ... Though I doubt he's there to tell the Americans about our fight with Irish Water.

It's posts like this that highlight the issues with our great nation. What makes you think that he gives a s**t? Why would he?? Stop looking at shouty celebrities to tell you how to think and start making your own mind up. Here's exactly what Garth and Russ feel about Irish people:

Jake Rugby Walrus666

Rabo Karabekian wrote: »

You don't need a link to it. We have been paying for water prior to Irish Water through general taxation. How else do you think it was being paid for?

Now, with Irish Water, we will be charged a further amount for water. Hence the being 'charged twice'.

How do you know we weren't being charged three times. Or four.
Have you got an itemised receipt for your "general" taxation.

everlast75

Rabo Karabekian wrote: »

You don't need a link to it. We have been paying for water prior to Irish Water through general taxation. How else do you think it was being paid for?

Now, with Irish Water, we will be charged a further amount for water. Hence the being 'charged twice'.

Jake Rugby Walrus666 wrote: »

How do you know we weren't being charged three times. Or four.
Have you got an itemised receipt for your "general" taxation.

I think Rabo's point is that we would be paying for water with tax, more than just the once.

You suggest three times, or four.

It appears ye are both in agreement then so.