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Eirtakon 2014 || Friday 21/11 - Sunday 23/11
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11-11-2014 3:27pm#1
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They couldn't setup a system link, so they ran it via xbox live using the venues poo internet. So the team on the host xbone had an insane advantage.
Every match the team without host would lag horribly and even go blackscreen while the other team owned them.
They spent most of the day actually trying over and over again to connect to the host lobby as it kept losing connection.
So me and Lee played Semi finals on a 4 way split screen cus this xbl nonsense wasn't working.
The 2 we were against in finals were the 2 running it all day and we were quite friendly with them. They "Bagsied" player 1 and 2 for the split screen. But then went on to try AGAIN to connect the 2 xbones while one of them sat comfortably on the host xbone. Before the match started I asked if we could have that xbox and they said "No way, we know all about host!"
Ok fair enough, so the match starts and 1 min in, me and Lee start lagging rottenly and die. Come out of blackscreen to see I'm waiting to spawn. I mention it to them and straight away they're not happy about it. They claimed it wasn't lagging.... after spending about 2 hours over the whole day dealing with connection issues.. they claimed it wasn't laggy. Ok :rolleyes:
Straight away they're dejected, and I'm genuinely confused as to what is wrong with them. I thought they would WANT a fair grand finals for the game they spent their entire day running. I thought that like any true competitor, they would want to become champs fairly and earn it! I was wrong.
I suggested that we play a split screen match so its fair, like they had us do for semi finals. But the girl immediately claimed that screen hacking is unfair. I let her know that we would all be looking at the same TV so it cannot actually be "unfair"... to which she replied something like "Well, I just don't believe in it and I won't do it so it will be unfair on us." Ok it's not ideal, but playing over xbl is just so unfair it totally defeats the purpose of a tournament I said.
They then claimed that there is no disadvantage to using the non host xbox, so I suggested that they used that one... And ofcourse they wouldn't.
So about now I straight up confront them and point out they clearly just want to cheat to win.
The greenshirt running Halo (bffs with the 2 we were against) then suggested that we play again, them on host, and if it lags.. me and Lee put our hands in the air and then all 4 of us put our pads on the table until the lag passes.. This apparently was the rule for dealing with lag all day that the 3 of them came up with.
MFW
Because they knew they were trying to cheat us, and couldn't argue their stance at all, they made the conversation needlessly confrontational. Since they weren't getting their way and couldn't argue it, they just acted like we were fighting when it was just a chat over a game. They all had an extreme lack of social skills. It was extremely awkward as I was left alone the entire time by my wonderful teammate Lee to deal with these 3 wonderful creatures currently on their annual venture outside. I alone had to listen to their pathetic idiotic reasoning and rotten attitudes. Both males actually got in my face at times..
When I offered them to play us either on 4way split screen or over xbl but me and Lee on host (Which they are claiming makes no difference), they then started claiming we don't have time to set that up..
(note, this discussion went on for another 30 mins i'd say before the match finally started and the actual match had a 5min limit)
I've never had to deal with such childishness in charge of a situation. They knew I was in the right but couldn't admit it or even coherently argue their stance at all. Instead they just dropped lines like "This is how the tournament has been run all day, and we already had to use the bad xbox. I don't believe in screenhacking.. its UNFAIR. It's just... sigh.... we've been at this all day so... .......
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Whenever I suggested that they choose either give us host or play on split screen they would just sigh and sit there like dopes. They called over other friends working at Eirtakon to back them up. One absolute gremlin yoke kept coming over and saying something with a snotty face on her but I didn't understand once.
So eventually we had to get Sinead and some other yellow shirts of Eirtakon come and deal with the situation. Whatever they decided would be final.
After hearing what both teams had to say they went off to make a decision.
I said we should play on split screen because xbl is a complete joke, and that if they insist on xbl, then we should get host or 1 per team on the host xbone. Again they just moaned instead of making any point about the actual situation.
The yellows decided we would play on 4way split screen, but me and Lee would have to win 2 games, and team nomates would only have to win 1 game.
Me and Lee were delighted, here's our chance to show our dominance on an even playing field... twice.
Game starts and xbone freezes..
They then suggest a pot split which we accepted for the lols and to get away from them. 20 buck voucher for game stop for each team. Collusion.
Ken and others said that every year there's issues in Halo featuring these 2. I'm not surprised as they were honestly some of the dumbest and worst people I've ever had to deal with. I would have walked away much sooner as I didn't give a crap about the prize. But I couldn't stand idly by and watch such injustice and a lack of dignity.
On the plus side, the whole thing was hilarious for me and the fgc. Yo e-sports.0 -
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I spent a lot of time trying to explain the situation to Onion and Doom. It was so baffling that it took ages to elaborate how ridiculous the situation was (not to mention all the eSports ads breaking the flow). But when I did join the fray it was like arguing with tumblr users. Couldn't fathom how Doyler could keep talking to them.
Me: "Let's just play 4-player split screen"
Halo Pro: "No way! Screen watching is cheating!"
Me: "Well yeah, it sucks, but at least that way it's fair, since the connection just drops for us any way."
Halo Pro: "There's nothing wrong with the connection!"
Me: "Then stand by those words and let us use the host xbox. See how well it runs for you."
Halo Pro: "No"
Me: "Why not?"
Halo Pro: "... because we've been on this one all day."
Me: "Then you're lying and just want to cheat your way to victory."
It was around this point of the conversation when one of them would literally hold their hands up to Doyler's or my face until one of the staff interjected.
Personally, I'm annoyed we didn't even get to play against them. They'd take our controllers and organise the teams and match so that we'd get the **** spawn at the start every time. I want that runback with everyone in the FGC cheering us on, cause when everyone started upping the hype, the two halo players started sweating bullets. It was as if everything they'd ever done in their lives was now on the line. And for being such insufferable tools, I was eager to beat them.0 -
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Hey guys,
Just to let ye know that we'll do everything we can to make sure things are a bit more clear-cut next year. Apologies for all the drama!
Tbh just ban them from entering next year is the easiest solution. I know all the people who've had to deal with them just don't enter the Halo Tournament anymore to avoid them, even if they win while dealing with them. It's just hassle.
Last year they complained they weren't allowed used their custom controllers and headsets in the tournament.
Year before that they complained and called me and my mate Shane out on "camping" when we beat them fairly on a map they chose and chose the spawns for so they'd be closer to powerweapons.
They're just really dramatic and whiny and have no sense of fair play at all.
I've heard more Halo stories from other con-goers involving these two, many more.
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I've got stories for days about the dramatic antics of these two. They're the worst when it comes to Halo tournaments. They don't care about FairPlay and they're horrifically unsportsmanlike.Tbh just ban them from entering next year is the easiest solution. I know all the people who've had to deal with them just don't enter the Halo Tournament anymore to avoid them, even if they win while dealing with them. It's just hassle.
Last year they complained they weren't allowed used their custom controllers and headsets in the tournament.
Year before that they complained and called me and my mate Shane out on "camping" when we beat them fairly on a map they chose and chose the spawns for so they'd be closer to powerweapons.
They're just really dramatic and whiny and have no sense of fair play at all.
I've heard more Halo stories from other con-goers involving these two, many more.
I've had a few people come to me about the drama at this years Eirtakon about what they did to the Halo tournament and I actually can't believe they were let away with so much.0 -
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Alright how's about we hear the story from someone that was just watching it, ok one I myself was not in any of the tournaments I ain't that good a player so I was standing watching the halo all day and yes the connection was bad all day but that was croke parks internet being **** and since the xbox ones don't have lan it had to be done with a laptop.
Now as for the lag yeah there was lag all day on Both Xboxes and the rules where to raise your hand and wait it out which worked all day with no complaints from other teams.
now here's why i'm writing this, as I said I've been watching the halo nearly all day and there was NO black screen on either xbox the final round or lag for that matter! all I seen was one guy stand up and start giving out and I thought ok maybe some things wrong but what? and when I found out after talking to a staff member im left there think ok there was no black screen at all what the hell?!
ok last few things is if the con people say there gonna hold a tournament their way then its gonna be their way and not only that its a CON tournament for fun and I really feel sorry for the staff cause there was a lot of **** and not just with the halo.
yeah know what I really hope that someone has the recordings of that halo match cause if there is lag the game will record the lag. I don't know maybe its just me but if anyone else has seen what I seen then I hope they make a post too.
If there was no lag, then why did they have a hissy fit and not want to swap consoles with the people who thought their one was lagging? Seems like a simple swap console then if they really think it was fair and there was no advantage being on the host xbox. I smell shenanigans. 0 -
If there was no lag, then why did they have a hissy fit and not want to swap consoles with the people who thought their one was lagging? Seems like a simple swap console then if they really think it was fair and there was no advantage being on the host xbox. I smell shenanigans.
I think Left4Shiz might be one of them, given the account was created today and it's only post is here. Just a thought...0 -
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ArcaneMarine wrote: »Wow, just...wow, really?
Well I can see this is going to go nowhere
Anyway the way I see it, you can complain and moan all you want here till your fingers bleed, it wont change anything for either parties, you or them, the con is over and in the past so go ahead, i doubt boards will run out of server space anytime soon. But next time I say you can either try arrange set the tourney up yourself, spend the five hours trying to get it to work, and deal with people hassling and complaining at you all day, or just don't bother competing next time. Which is exactly the reason i don't bother with tournaments way too much butt hurt drama from everyone afterwards.
I ran Marvel + SF4 and it went fine because I'm not an absolute moron and I did't try to cheat.
If you read back you will see that I was actually asked what happened, so I told the whole story. I'm not one to complain or moan, it's a funny story about two complete losers that our community has gotten a kick out of.
And I looked up umbrella corporation..
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Well ... As I was there time and again when the connection was interfering with the tournament
That would annoy me but I have seen the people in question play and there is no question that they were just professional players that just won a tournament out of skill
I have tried playing against them and they made me look like I was was a toddler in cardboard armour with a potato gun..these guys were just that good ..hell I could barely touch their shields for Christ sake o.o
I also saw them try their best to get this tournament running despite the constant hold ups but kept trying anyway so you guys could play....
They even shared some of the prize as a peace offering
So the way I see it fellas .... Next year you set it up...and when they beat you ...again ...
Try to accuse them again
P.s try yelling "NEEEEEEERD" next time your in a con at people for cosplaying and you will see what people's reactions look like when the are staring at a complete twonk0 -
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