Voter Registration

The Brofessor

We are being ask to register so we can vote on the issue of Marriage equality

However, why would they assume we would vote in their favour?

sunshine and showers

They're not assuming you'll vote yes - but UCDSU policy appears to support a yes vote, so they're hoping you will.

kilrush

UCDSU have a policy mandate supporting Marriage Equality and it also has a policy mandate that it has to have a flag and poster supporting Marriage Equality at all its events where appropriate.

I'm pretty sure they don't care if you are just registering so that you can now be called up to jury duty but I'm pretty sure the voter register drive is being run with UCD LGBTQ+ society who I'd imagine would like you to vote with them but they are just enabling you to exercise your legal right to vote pretty sure they won't be standing over you in the polling booth.

McKrab

Of course anyone is allowed to register regardless of whether they will vote Yes or No in the referendum. Some polls place University students' support for Marriage Equality in the 90% range, so it's likely that most of the people who sign up will be in favour.

The Brofessor

McKrab wrote: »

Of course anyone is allowed to register regardless of whether they will vote Yes or No in the referendum. Some polls place University students' support for Marriage Equality in the 90% range, so it's likely that most of the people who sign up will be in favour.

I doubt that's true.

Take for example David Norris running for president

It was made to appear was though everyone supported him but in reality what happened?

sunshine and showers

The Brofessor wrote: »

I doubt that's true.

Take for example David Norris running for president

It was made to appear was though everyone supported him but in reality what happened?

There's a difference between supporting marriage equality and supporting a presidential candidate who happens to be a gay man.

You can't equate the two in this context.

McKrab

The Brofessor wrote: »

I doubt that's true.

Take for example David Norris running for president

It was made to appear was though everyone supported him but in reality what happened?

These are internal polls that GLEN have conducted themselves, so I cant link you to them or anything but I could easily believe it.

robman60

McKrab wrote: »

Of course anyone is allowed to register regardless of whether they will vote Yes or No in the referendum. Some polls place University students' support for Marriage Equality in the 90% range, so it's likely that most of the people who sign up will be in favour.

That's such a weak argument though. If Sinn Féin were garnering 90% in opinion polls in the university should there be posters prior to a general election saying "register now so you can vote for Sinn Féin"?

It's somehow socially acceptable for "liberals" (ok, this issue has unanimous support among the political parties but any opposition would be from the right) to push an agenda but the reverse is never true. I'm not opposed to same-sex marriage FWIW but I think the campaign for voter registration shouldn't be hijacked by a political agenda, which has happened in this case.

sunshine and showers

robman60 wrote: »

That's such a weak argument though. If Sinn Féin were garnering 90% in opinion polls in the university should there be posters prior to a general election saying "register now so you can vote for Sinn Féin"?

It's somehow socially acceptable for "liberals" (ok, this issue has unanimous support among the political parties but any opposition would be from the right) to push an agenda but the reverse is never true. I'm not opposed to same-sex marriage FWIW but I think the campaign for voter registration shouldn't be hijacked by a political agenda, which has happened in this case.

It's a campaign for voter registration for the same sex marriage referendum, though. It's not a bog-standard "the register is being made, make sure to join it!" thing.

And same sex marriage is a different kind of political issue than party politics. You can't compare Sinn Fein support to same sex marriage support. They're mutually exclusive issues.

The Brofessor

sunshine and showers wrote: »

There's a difference between supporting marriage equality and supporting a presidential candidate who happens to be a gay man.

You can't equate the two in this context.

It seemed to me that his sexuality was very much at the center of it (Sad to say)

Some people thought having a gay president would be a great idea

And some people didn't. That's why negative stories in relation to his sexuality were printed in the papers.

I think it's a propaganda tool that never really works unless you already support gay marriage, then it makes.

But if you don't support gay marriage or just feel indifferent toward it there is not the impression that everyone supports gay marriage

SparkySpitfire

The Brofessor wrote: »

It seemed to me that his sexuality was very much at the center of it (Sad to say)

Some people thought having a gay president would be a great idea

And some people didn't. That's why negative stories in relation to his sexuality were printed in the papers.

I think it's a propaganda tool that never really works unless you already support gay marriage, then it makes.

But if you don't support gay marriage or just feel indifferent toward it there is not the impression that everyone supports gay marriage

And some people didn't give a toss he was gay and voted for him or didn't based on his political career thus far, like a rational human being would.

I don't know what you're trying to stir up here, but it doesn't seem to be working.

The SU has a position on an issue, because we voted it that way. Sorry if you were too apathetic to vote on it, or if you did you were in the minority but that's how democracy works.

The Brofessor

SparkySpitfire wrote: »

And some people didn't give a toss he was gay and voted for him or didn't based on his political career thus far, like a rational human being would.

I don't know what you're trying to stir up here, but it doesn't seem to be working.

The SU has a position on an issue, because we voted it that way. Sorry if you were too apathetic to vote on it, or if you did you were in the minority but that's how democracy works.

Yep, that's how democracy works