stove and cyclinder setup

tom_con

Hey all. Hoping for a bit of info regarding a plumbing problem. I was contemplating installing an insert stove with back boiler into my heating setup. Currently I have an air to water heat pump and solar panels. Dormer house with rads upstairs and underfloor heating downstairs. Both are connected to dual coil cylinder with is located in hot press on the ground floor. What I want to do is use air to water heat pump solely for the underfloor heating, solar panels for DHW and then stove for rads and DHW. My problem is the plumbing of stove as the cylinder and stove would b on ground floor. Therfore I cant set up a proper gravity install between the two(no tearing up floor because of underfloor heating). Is there a safe/legal way to do lt.? Any advice would b much appreciated

tom_con

Just to b clear ive no intention of doing any work myself or installing something that's dangerous. Wanna find out is it posdible to b done at all.

The Hurricane

Hi Tom,

There is a product on the market now called the Heat Genie saw it at a trade show and seem to be revolutionary might suit your issue but not sure. Its made by systemlink who design heating systems and have been around a good while.

Hope this helps

Dtp1979

tom_con wrote: »

Hey all. Hoping for a bit of info regarding a plumbing problem. I was contemplating installing an insert stove with back boiler into my heating setup. Currently I have an air to water heat pump and solar panels. Dormer house with rads upstairs and underfloor heating downstairs. Both are connected to dual coil cylinder with is located in hot press on the ground floor. What I want to do is use air to water heat pump solely for the underfloor heating, solar panels for DHW and then stove for rads and DHW. My problem is the plumbing of stove as the cylinder and stove would b on ground floor. Therfore I cant set up a proper gravity install between the two(no tearing up floor because of underfloor heating). Is there a safe/legal way to do lt.? Any advice would b much appreciated

Is your cylinder pressurised?

tom_con

Yeah the whole system is pressurised.

Dtp1979

tom_con wrote: »

Yeah the whole system is pressurised.

You cannot join a solid fuel appliance to a pressurised cylinder

tom_con

Can I ask why?

Dtp1979

tom_con wrote: »

Can I ask why?

It's an uncontrollable heat source

kerryplumber

Dtp1979 wrote: »

You cannot join a solid fuel appliance to a pressurised cylinder

You can with a heat genie

kerryplumber

Dtp1979 wrote: »

You cannot join a solid fuel appliance to a pressurised cylinder

You can with a heat genie

kerryplumber

Dtp1979 wrote: »

You cannot join a solid fuel appliance to a pressurised cylinder

You can with a heat genie

tom_con

Has anyone any experience of the heat genie. Good job, bad job?

Dtp1979

tom_con wrote: »

Has anyone any experience of the heat genie. Good job, bad job?

http://touch.boards.ie/thread/post/90462180

tom_con

Cheers Dtp1979. So stove -heat genie- pressurised cyclinder is also a no go? Any other possibilities?

Dtp1979

tom_con wrote: »

Cheers Dtp1979. So stove -heat genie- pressurised cyclinder is also a no go? Any other possibilities?

Can you move the cylinder upstairs? Maybe make it open vented too.

tom_con

I could but it would mean an awful lot of extra work so a lot more €€€. What if I didnt connect stove to pressurised cylinder and opted just to heat the rads?? Just an idea

Dtp1979

tom_con wrote: »

I could but it would mean an awful lot of extra work so a lot more €€€. What if I didnt connect stove to pressurised cylinder and opted just to heat the rads?? Just an idea

You need the stove to heat the cylinder circuit first. It must be by gravity and not pumped. The pumped circuit is for the radiators

tom_con

So new Cylinder upstairs in a gravity circuit and open vented. Run a zone off it for the rads.(pumped circuit). That work? What to do with the water in upstairs cylinder then?

Dtp1979

tom_con wrote: »

So new Cylinder upstairs in a gravity circuit and open vented. Run a zone off it for the rads.(pumped circuit). That work? What to do with the water in upstairs cylinder then?

That cylinder upstairs should be your hot water supply also if possible