Trailer size most suitable for jeep

farawaygrass

Hi all, on the lookout for a trailer for the last while. See nice 14 foot tri axles on dd a lot. Wondering would it be much harder on a jeep, particularly the clutch that a 12 foot x 6 double axle. Jeep is a 02 Pajero sport. Thanks in advance

Willfarman

farawaygrass wrote: »

Hi all, on the lookout for a trailer for the last while. See nice 14 foot tri axles on dd a lot. Wondering would it be much harder on a jeep, particularly the clutch that a 12 foot x 6 double axle. Jeep is a 02 Pajero sport. Thanks in advance

12 foot would be plenty big. Bring 6 450 kg cattle or 5 550 kg. 4 700 kg.

simx

Willfarman wrote: »

12 foot would be plenty big. Bring 6 450 kg cattle or 5 550 kg. 4 700 kg.

would agree on this, pulled a 14ft full and its a nice load, seen a few 16ft trailers behind jeeps, must be some yoke to pul:eek:

_Brian

Regarding clutch and how hard a trailer is on a jeep.. much much of this depends on how the rig is driven and handled..

Know a fella who uses similar tri axle rig to draw cattle to the mart, he drives like he stole it, apart from the added stress on cattle the abuse he gives the jeep and trailer is unreal, with axles needing replacing from hammering through potholes and the like..

A smooth driver will make life on man, beast and machine much handier.

Muckit

Apparently you save a lot on dazill because the trailer is driving the jeep

farawaygrass

Willfarman wrote: »

12 foot would be plenty big. Bring 6 450 kg cattle or 5 550 kg. 4 700 kg.

Would you really bring 5 550kg animals? Would be plenty big alright. Local mart only 5 miles away so if had to make two trips even it's no problem. Hard to come by a like new condition second hand 12x6 trailer though

farawaygrass

_Brian wrote: »

Regarding clutch and how hard a trailer is on a jeep.. much much of this depends on how the rig is driven and handled..

Know a fella who uses similar tri axle rig to draw cattle to the mart, he drives like he stole it, apart from the added stress on cattle the abuse he gives the jeep and trailer is unreal, with axles needing replacing from hammering through potholes and the like..

A smooth driver will make life on man, beast and machine much handier.

I'd agree there 100% with you. Some people think it's dead weight they are driving and not livestock.

Gard1

slightly off issue you would need to check the towing capacity of the jeep. No point in having a 16ft tri axle if you can only bring 3 or 4 cattle in it. also new regulations regaring EB Licence important to get it all in order or insurance wont cover you

farawaygrass

Gard1 wrote: »

slightly off issue you would need to check the towing capacity of the jeep. No point in having a 16ft tri axle if you can only bring 3 or 4 cattle in it. also new regulations regaring EB Licence important to get it all in order or insurance wont cover you

Have the trailer license alright. It's complicated knowing the weights though, ever vehicle is played with a towing capacity and you're not meant to exceed that. A 16ft full would be way over I'd say

northdub14

Think 12x6 trailer is plenty big and not that hard pulled loaded.. Got a lend of a 16ft trailer one day to bring a bigger load to the mart never again. it was like a 40ft behind the jeep.........

simx

farawaygrass wrote: »

Would you really bring 5 550kg animals? Would be plenty big alright. Local mart only 5 miles away so if had to make two trips even it's no problem. Hard to come by a like new condition second hand 12x6 trailer though

put 6 500kg fr blks in mine once, often put 5 good fr store cows in it too, know a lad that puts 7 cows in a 14ft trailer, one of them would want to be handier but will fit but not much space to spare, sold an immaculate 12x6 ifor for 3k about a month ago, never spent one night dirty, was about 9/10 yrs old all the same, bought a 20`tractor trailer

Gard1

farawaygrass wrote: »

Have the trailer license alright. It's complicated knowing the weights though, ever vehicle is played with a towing capacity and you're not meant to exceed that. A 16ft full would be way over I'd say

I would say so too. I would look into a decent 20ft cattle trailer for behind the tractor, you would pick one up as cheap as a jeep trailer and if you are only 5 miles from the mart its not a long haul and you haven't to be worrying about what you have in the back

Willfarman

farawaygrass wrote: »

Would you really bring 5 550kg animals? Would be plenty big alright. Local mart only 5 miles away so if had to make two trips even it's no problem. Hard to come by a like new condition second hand 12x6 trailer though

You will. I do regularly. I was in the same position as you you a few years back looking at 2nd hand stuff and I found the best value to be a new one. Bought a nugent in the north. Very happy with it.

farawaygrass

Gard1 wrote: »

I would say so too. I would look into a decent 20ft cattle trailer for behind the tractor, you would pick one up as cheap as a jeep trailer and if you are only 5 miles from the mart its not a long haul and you haven't to be worrying about what you have in the back

Thought of that too but wouldn't ya want air brakes really for trailer, and a decent one would still be big money?
Tractor actually has the pipe for hydraulic brakes on trailer

farawaygrass

Willfarman wrote: »

You will. I do regularly. I was in the same position as you you a few years back looking at 2nd hand stuff and I found the best value to be a new one. Bought a nugent in the north. Very happy with it.

It was worth your whole do going to the north? Happy with nugent?

Base price

Gard1 wrote: »

slightly off issue you would need to check the towing capacity of the jeep. No point in having a 16ft tri axle if you can only bring 3 or 4 cattle in it. also new regulations regaring EB Licence important to get it all in order or insurance wont cover you

Would you not need EC1 to pull 5x550kg animals? I always get confused as to what the laden weight limits (laden/unladen/combination etc) are on the different licence categories.
I reckon the reason that so many tri axle trailers are for sale on DD is that most people do not have either the correct licence or else they would be overweight (fully loaded) behind a jeep. RSA are clamping down on jeeps/trailers. I was stopped on the way to a factory (EFF) at a multi agency checkpoint with our 12'x5' trailer and 2 FR cull cows and a FR bull on board. Garda asked to see my licence. I have EC1 but RSA man looked at the plate inside the door of the jeep to see what the drawing weight was.

Kevin McCloud

That year sport is rated for 2800kg towing, that figure would include weight of box so minus that from 2800kg to give max weight permitted in trailer would that be right?

severeoversteer

farawaygrass wrote: »

Would you really bring 5 550kg animals? Would be plenty big alright. Local mart only 5 miles away so if had to make two trips even it's no problem. Hard to come by a like new condition second hand 12x6 trailer though

you'll bring 6 550kg beasts in a twelve foot trailer

I am more stubborn than the cattle though !! :rolleyes:

Willfarman

farawaygrass wrote: »

It was worth your whole do going to the north? Happy with nugent?

Bought it over the phone and only had to go to dublin to collect and pay. Was 600 cheaper than local agent. I'm very happy with it so far anyway.

farawaygrass

Kevin McCloud wrote: »

That year sport is rated for 2800kg towing, that figure would include weight of box so minus that from 2800kg to give max weight permitted in trailer would that be right?

Ya that's how I understand it too

The Letheram

I have a 12 x 6 but borrowed an uncles 14 x 6'6 to pull a lazy mans load a good distance one afternoon about a month ago. The bigger load in the 3 axle 14ft was a lot smoother behind me than a smaller load in a 12ft double axle. Thought 3 axle was a great job despite knowing I was over weight.
Don't worry about pulling behind a jeep though, about these parts they are seen as an expensive show pony.;-)

poor farmer

Kevin McCloud wrote: »

That year sport is rated for 2800kg towing, that figure would include weight of box so minus that from 2800kg to give max weight permitted in trailer would that be right?

severeoversteer wrote: »

you'll bring 6 550kg beasts in a twelve foot trailer

I am more stubborn than the cattle though !! :rolleyes:

A 12ft twin axle ifor williams weighs about 1000 kg and its probably the lightest trailer on the market.
So that jeep and trailer can carry 1800 kg of livestock.
Thats 3.2 of s.o.s beasts .

paddysdream

poor farmer wrote: »

A 12ft twin axle ifor williams weighs about 1000 kg and its probably the lightest trailer on the market.
So that jeep and trailer can carry 1800 kg of livestock.
Thats 3.2 of s.o.s beasts .

Bit heavier than that.Think its a little with 1100 kgs but maybe thats with decks.Know the 14ft. 3 axle is a little more than 1250 kgs