Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

Cantona's Collars

"It’s not difficult to coach to just get 10 players right on your 18-yard box." Rodgers.

For any team,that's shocking defending,who exactly are the Liverpool players marking?

LuckyLloyd

djPSB wrote: »

He has far more quality in the squad but far less quality in the first 11 due to the absence of Suarez and Sturridge.

Everyone is in agreement that results this season haven't been good enough. It's just a matter of whether fans believe he can get things back on track with time.

It's a matter of that plus how much time you might wait. What people's squeal point is essentially with regards to an extended run of poor performances and results.

He has two weeks to figure out something for Palace. A loss there would be very concerning.

kryogen

Turtyturd wrote: »

Hernandez was the worst player I have ever seen for it.

Balotelli is still fairly bad though.

There can be only one

Cantona's Collars

kryogen wrote: »

There can be only one

The difference between Inzaghi,Hernandez & Mario is that 2 out of that 3 scored goals and moved around.

Kerrigooney

kryogen wrote: »

There can be only one

We have a winner.

Cisse and Bent we're bad but Inzaghi was never onside.

Turtyturd

zerks wrote: »

"It’s not difficult to coach to just get 10 players right on your 18-yard box." Rodgers.

For any team,that's shocking defending,who exactly are the Liverpool players marking?

That quote has nothing to do with the picture...better suited to the humour thread for a couple of thanks.

djPSB

KingJamsie wrote: »

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Mind blowing isn't it? And Stevie taking corners while Raheem & Joe Allen are in the box

We got loads of goals from Gerard's corners last season. Didn't see any issue then.

Mr Alan

Turtyturd wrote: »

That quote has nothing to do with the picture...better suited to the humour thread for a couple of thanks.

While not specifically related to the picture, the quote is very relevant to this season.

When our manager had Suarez tearing up trees in the attacking stakes, he was quite arrogant in the view that's it's easy to get a team to be just solid/organised & not concede goals if that's all they were interested in.
Yet this season we can stop conceding from silly set pieces because we are absolutely completely unable to be in any way solid/organised & it's costing us points virtually week in/week out.

Turtyturd

Turtyturd wrote: »

That quote has nothing to do with the picture...better suited to the humour thread for a couple of thanks.

I think it was a very constructive intelligent debate starter myself.

Kerrigooney

djPSB wrote: »

We got loads of goals from Gerard's corners last season. Didn't see any issue then.

We need to stop talking about last season...it's dead and gone.

There's an issue with them NOW. They're shit.

djPSB

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

It's a matter of that plus how much time you might wait. What people's squeal point is essentially with regards to an extended run of poor performances and results.

He has two weeks to figure out something for Palace. A loss there would be very concerning.

Personally, I'd give him until at least the end of the season.

It's hard to know when the correct time is to pull the trigger.

What your thoughts on Klopp and Dortmund in the relegation zone. Do you think his time is limited there or should he be given more time.

Mr Alan

djPSB wrote: »

What your thoughts on Klopp and Dortmund in the relegation zone. Do you think his time is limited there or should he be given more time.

I think only a fool would not think Klopp deserves substantially more patience than Rodgers

Devilman40k

Turtyturd wrote: »

That quote has nothing to do with the picture...better suited to the humour thread for a couple of thanks.

No but if defending is so easy (according to Rodgers) then why are we so bad at it?

This season is starting to resemble Rodgers season with Reading he spent big there (relative to their budget) and refused to adapt, constantly stating work harder and it would get better and it cost him.His blind belief in a single system could be his downfall again.

Balotelli offers no movement which nullifies any threat Gerrards passing range gives and puts pressure on midfield and therefore the defence. The quick interplay and transitions from last season are gone and it's all one dimensional.

If there is no improvement in next 5 league games watch the pressure ratchet up.

Agent Coulson

djPSB wrote: »

What your thoughts on Klopp and Dortmund in the relegation zone. Do you think his time is limited there or should he be given more time.

There is a huge difference Klopp is a proven winner!!

Rodgers has won nothing at the 4 clubs he has managed.

5starpool

In that picture, Gerrard should get back onside or we'll never score from that attacking corner.

We should be out of the running for CL spots at this stage, or at least have a mountain to climb.

Luckily the other teams challenging are almost as shít as us.

I still doubt we'll get it anyway unless a top striker is signed in Jan to play alongside Sturridge

djPSB

Mr Alan wrote: »

I think only a fool would not think Klopp deserves substantially more patience than Rodgers

Do you think Klopp would have got us within a whisker of winning the PL last season?

Not a hope.

Mr Alan

djPSB wrote: »

Do you think Klopp would have got us within a whisker of winning the PL last season?

Not a hope.

With Suarez in his team?

Yes I think he could have.

Do you think Rodgers is a more proven manager than Klopp?

djPSB

djPSB wrote: »

Do you think Klopp would have got us within a whisker of winning the PL last season?

Not a hope.

I know it's all hypothetical stuff, but wondering how you came to this conclusion.

djPSB

Agent Coulson wrote: »

There is a huge difference Klopp is a proven winner!!

Rodgers has won nothing at the 4 clubs he has managed.

But it's a results driven business regardless of who you are is what they say.

Kerrigooney

djPSB wrote: »

Do you think Klopp would have got us within a whisker of winning the PL last season?

Not a hope.

Are you saying Rodgers is a better manager than Klopp??

Luckycharms_74

Looking back at the game yesterday many of Rodgers decisions were mind boggling. Playing Balotelli up front alone for 70 mins then replacing him with borini instead of playing them both up top.
Also taking off Can when he was the best midfielder was another one.
Coutinho was very poor for the 2nd goal (Johnson going AWOL didn't help) and in my eyes he is a flat track bully or impact sub, bar the 5-1 win vs arsenal this year he hasn't performed against the big teams. Lambert offered nothing and him falling over himself was comical.

Rodgers needs to start delivering soon or I'm certain he will be gone next summer. FSG are business people and ain't gone put up with it.

Turtyturd

Devilman40k wrote: »

No but if defending is so easy (according to Rodgers) then why are we so bad at it?

This season is starting to resemble Rodgers season with Reading he spent big there (relative to their budget) and refused to adapt, constantly stating work harder and it would get better and it cost him.His blind belief in a single system could be his downfall again.

Balotelli offers no movement which nullifies any threat Gerrards passing range gives and puts pressure on midfield and therefore the defence. The quick interplay and transitions from last season are gone and it's all one dimensional.

If there is no improvement in next 5 league games watch the pressure ratchet up.

He was talking about a specific type of defending, which he has never tried to implement at the club.

5starpool

djPSB wrote: »

Do you think Klopp would have got us within a whisker of winning the PL last season?

Not a hope.

Put down the glass, bit early for that isn't it?

djPSB

Mr Alan wrote: »

With Suarez in his team?

Yes I think he could have.

Do you think Rodgers is a more proven manager than Klopp?

No.

But one manager sitting in the relegation zone supposedly deserves more time than a manager who guided the team to second in the world's most competitive league last season and currently just 4 points off CL spots while playing appallingly.

djPSB

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Are you saying Rodgers is a better manager than Klopp??

Who said that

I am drawing parallels between their similar situations.

Both find themselves under pressure.

5starpool

djPSB wrote: »

No.

But one manager sitting in the relegation zone supposedly deserves more time than a manager who guided the team to second in the world's most competitive league last season and currently just 4 points off CL spots while playing appallingly.

Having one poor first season, then one excellent season and a poor start to he 3rd season does not equate to being a league winning manager, serial qualification for the CL, and a final appearance and some deep runs in that as well. One has earned more leeway than the other or do you think both managers achievements are on a par?

Mr Alan

djPSB wrote: »

No.

But one manager sitting in the relegation zone supposedly deserves more time than a manager who guided the team to second in the world's most competitive league last season and currently just 4 points off CL spots while playing appallingly.

No "supposedly" about it. He definitely deserves more time/patience than Rodgers based on his record at the club when compared to Rodgers 1 good season at Liverpool.

Agent Coulson

Rodgers as a manager.

Watford left them after 6 months saved them from relegation.

Reading sacked after 6 months after spending a lot of money and refusing to change his style. leaving them in thr relegation zone.

Swansea took over at a well built team with a playing style started by a former manager and carried on by others who took over to this day. Brought them into the preimer league via the play offs.

Preimer league era as manager 11th with Swansea then joins Liverpool to finish 7th, 2nd & ?.

Can Liverpool afford to giver him time I think we can till the end of the season. But if we finish 7th again his time will be up one way or another.

Luckycharms_74

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Looking back at the game yesterday many of Rodgers decisions were mind boggling. Playing Balotelli up front alone for 70 mins then replacing him with borini instead of playing them both up top.
Also taking off Can when he was the best midfielder was another one.
Coutinho was very poor for the 2nd goal (Johnson going AWOL didn't help) and in my eyes he is a flat track bully or impact sub, bar the 5-1 win vs arsenal this year he hasn't performed against the big teams. Lambert offered nothing and him falling over himself was comical.

Rodgers needs to start delivering soon or I'm certain he will be gone next summer. FSG are business people and ain't gone put up with it.

This is going on for 3 months now, (1 up top) It's getting weird tbh