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New shed secure girders

  • 27-10-2014 7:31am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭


    Hi al puting up a small shed 30x20 what is the best way to secure the steel girders concrete into the ground or on top of the slab shed is just really a store cheers folks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭dzer2


    Hi al puting up a small shed 30x20 what is the best way to secure the steel girders concrete into the ground or on top of the slab shed is just really a store cheers folks

    If you a putting in a concrete wall then plate the RSJ's and bolt down to floor just deepen the floor at the points where the uprights are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭letterkenny man


    dzer2 wrote: »
    If you a putting in a concrete wall then plate the RSJ's and bolt down to floor just deepen the floor at the points where the uprights are.

    Thanks what's the best to use is the bolts put in while concrete is wet or are they drilled in after


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭dzer2


    If you are accurate enough put them in while wet. If not chemical anchor and threaded bar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    dzer2 wrote: »
    If you a putting in a concrete wall then plate the RSJ's and bolt down to floor just deepen the floor at the points where the uprights are.

    +1

    and if you putting a pillar where there's no wall get a a foot square of 3," aero board and set that in the slab to allow the the base plate to be under ground and outa the way

    use 7" anchor bolts and nothing will shift it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭letterkenny man


    orm0nd wrote: »
    +1

    and if you putting a pillar where there's no wall get a a foot square of 3," aero board and set that in the slab to allow the the base plate to be under ground and outa the way

    use 7" anchor bolts and nothing will shift it
    Thanks good idea the aero board


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    myself and 2 uncles stood a 3 bay shed over the weekend.

    8 pillars , 15 timbers and 4 cross beems up and bolted together and all plum in 5 hours. We couldn't believe it. Not bad for an accountant, a council worker and a lad who works in a plumbing supply store


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭dzer2


    myself and 2 uncles stood a 3 bay shed over the weekend.

    8 pillars , 15 timbers and 4 cross beems up and bolted together and all plum in 5 hours. We couldn't believe it. Not bad for an accountant, a council worker and a lad who works in a plumbing supply store

    Would have sheeted it inthat time also:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭letterkenny man


    myself and 2 uncles stood a 3 bay shed over the weekend.

    8 pillars , 15 timbers and 4 cross beems up and bolted together and all plum in 5 hours. We couldn't believe it. Not bad for an accountant, a council worker and a lad who works in a plumbing supply store
    Not bad goin was it a kit how much roughly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Miname


    When your putting in the concrete have it deeper where the holes are, weld on flat plates onto short pieces of rsj and press down into the concrete. Make sure they are lined and squared and just run round with a laser and bobs your uncle. It gives a far firmer grip for the uprights when you weld them onto the plates and it's way faster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    Not bad goin was it a kit how much roughly

    ye he got a lad he knows to cut make the kit. ill ask him when im talking to him next


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    dzer2 wrote: »
    Would have sheeted it inthat time also:p

    you don't fancy coming to stand a 3 bay hayshed with lean to for me so?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Miname wrote: »
    When your putting in the concrete have it deeper where the holes are, weld on flat plates onto short pieces of rsj and press down into the concrete. Make sure they are lined and squared and just run round with a laser and bobs your uncle. It gives a far firmer grip for the uprights when you weld them onto the plates and it's way faster.

    Out of interest does this work also for square or round uprights for a crush or race - can they be plated and bolted or do they have to be sunk into the slab?

    And is there a good source for chemical fixings / epoxy around Cork? Not so easy to get in the builders merchants here..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭dzer2


    kowtow wrote: »
    Out of interest does this work also for square or round uprights for a crush or race - can they be plated and bolted or do they have to be sunk into the slab?

    And is there a good source for chemical fixings / epoxy around Cork? Not so easy to get in the builders merchants here..

    Hilti used to have a place out near wilton


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭dzer2


    you don't fancy coming to stand a 3 bay hayshed with lean to for me so?

    Is It all on site?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Miname


    kowtow wrote: »
    Out of interest does this work also for square or round uprights for a crush or race - can they be plated and bolted or do they have to be sunk into the slab?

    And is there a good source for chemical fixings / epoxy around Cork? Not so easy to get in the builders merchants here..
    It can work yes but a crush is a lot smaller set up and easier handled so I wouldn't see the point just set them in concrete and your finished. Chemical fixings are readily available in most places it's usually just you end up with the one clown that doesn't know what it is. Hilti does it alright but I think hilti has closed a lot of their stores in the last few years.


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