Cattle housed yet?

westlander

Anyone got any of their cattle in yet?
Weather is getting bad here in the west!

freedominacup

westlander wrote: »

Anyone got any of their cattle in yet?
Weather is getting bad here in the west!

After the summer we've had I've no guilt about saying not even thinking about it yet. Grass growth stronger than it's been since mid June and not a hint of give in the ground. Very little rain here in the past week.

Muckit

Bad oul morning here alright. The ground is holding up incredibly well though. Getting a bit mucky at water troughs but that's about it. Trying to get cattle to eat down tight by rationing out grass with strip wires. They are very settled. Have lovely green cover coming on ground held up for springtime. Will sail past 1Nov l had in my head for housing.

Miname

Put some of the first spring Calvers in. I'm going to ration out what grass is left for the replacements and the autumn Calvers, probably slightly against Teagasc advice. Ground is holding up perfect but I'm not going wasting it on sry cows.

Mad4simmental

Next saterday cows and calves going in. Starting to worry about staggers this time of the year. I'll try leave the light cattle out for another few weeks plenty of grass but the wether will decide how long theft stay out.

The Cuban

Same as that Mad4,
I put out round feeders this morning as I`d be worried about the cows getting tetany. Plenty grass under their feet but they still made a stampede to the silage. The Weanlens are getting big some of them are hitting the 400kg mark now and still sucking the cow, so after a heavy nights rain the weanlens tend to drag off the cow more. Plus they are simmental cross cows which tend to keep throwing out large amounts of milk but can go backward in condition very fast and go down on you.
Better safe than sorry for the sake of a few bales till they are housed

Reggie.

The Cuban wrote: »

Same as that Mad4,
I put out round feeders this morning as I`d be worried about the cows getting tetany. Plenty grass under their feet but they still made a stampede to the silage. The Weanlens are getting big some of them are hitting the 400kg mark now and still sucking the cow, so after a heavy nights rain the weanlens tend to drag off the cow more. Plus they are simmental cross cows which tend to keep throwing out large amounts of milk but can go backward in condition very fast and go down on you.
Better safe than sorry for the sake of a few bales till they are housed

FIL has them type of cattle but has no intention of housing them for another while. The odd bit of hay is all he gives them. What should I be watching out for as he can be a bit "stubborn"

Mad4simmental

Reggie. wrote: »

FIL has them type of cattle but has no intention of housing them for another while. The odd bit of hay is all he gives them. What should I be watching out for as he can be a bit "stubborn"

Not much to be honist Reggie. Most of the time they are fcuked when you find out. If they are dopie or like they find it hard to balance or have sunk eyes.

I was going to put out a round feeder but for the sake of a few bales I'll be happy to have them in.

Reggie.

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Not much to be honist Reggie. Most of the time they are fcuked when you find out. If they are dopie or like they find it hard to balance or have sunk eyes.

I was going to put out a round feeder but for the sake of a few bales I'll be happy to have them in.

The cows are out with calves at the minute and I'm noticed 4 calves yesterday that were either lame or had a bit of a hurt. 3 with it on the same leg (the back right). Thought it was strange. Told they are covered for blackleg tho

Mad4simmental

Reggie. wrote: »

The cows are out with calves at the minute and I'm noticed 4 calves yesterday that were either lame or had a bit of a hurt. 3 with it on the same leg (the back right). Thought it was strange. Told they are covered for blackleg tho

That is a bit strange allright. Had two bulls get fowel here a few weeks ago but they pulled out of it themselves after a few days thankfully. One bitch of a calf is sucking everything she is the best calf here now but she could tip one of the cows over the edge.

Reggie.

Mad4simmental wrote: »

That is a bit strange allright. Had two bulls get fowel here a few weeks ago but they pulled out of it themselves after a few days thankfully. One bitch of a calf is sucking everything she is the best calf here now but she could tip one of the cows over the edge.

Had an awful run of foul this year with the bullock weanlings. Got handy with the injections by the end of it tho

just do it

I'd the autumn calvers still due in this morning for their mineral bolus and they didn't want to go back out again! Agree with Muckit, despite the rain the ground is still holding up well. Only a matter of time before the water table rises though :rolleyes:

Reggie.

just do it wrote: »

I'd the autumn calvers still due in this morning for their mineral bolus and they didn't want to go back out again! Agree with Muckit, despite the rain the ground is still holding up well. Only a matter of time before the water table rises though :rolleyes:

Heavy land here and my small batch is St the bottom of a hill. Acts like a bowl with the rain. Getting sticky at times

The Cuban

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Not much to be honist Reggie. Most of the time they are fcuked when you find out. If they are dopie or like they find it hard to balance or have sunk eyes.

I was going to put out a round feeder but for the sake of a few bales I'll be happy to have them in.

Very hard to catch the onset of tetany, you might get lucky and spot them kicking their back legs as if they have something caught in their hoof, some of them exhibit that symptom but most of the time you don't get any warning only find them dead.

Count Mondego

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Next saterday cows and calves going in. Starting to worry about staggers this time of the year. I'll try leave the light cattle out for another few weeks plenty of grass but the wether will decide how long theft stay out.

Would you not be safe enough with a hi-mag mineral bucket in the field?

westlander

Count Mondego wrote: »

Would you not be safe enough with a hi-mag mineral bucket in the field?

Thats what I do. You dont feel the cows going through them.

Mad4simmental

Count Mondego wrote: »

Would you not be safe enough with a hi-mag mineral bucket in the field?

I have them out with them, but strong calves and Notting in grass this time of year they can get it quick. Nabourgh lost a few last year the same way.

greysides

Cause, signs, treatment and prevention of Grass Tetany in cows.

Also.

whelan2

The Cuban wrote: »

Very hard to catch the onset of tetany, you might get lucky and spot them kicking their back legs as if they have something caught in their hoof, some of them exhibit that symptom but most of the time you don't get any warning only find them dead.

even if you do save them they can be brain damaged, had to get one put down last year. Always have hi-mag buckets with them, any time we lost one bucket was empty or had gone under the fence or into creep feeder

trixi2011

Drafting out heifers and lighter cows tomorrow house , the rest will stay out to Finnish off some very heavy covers

Brass Tag

whelan2 wrote: »

even if you do save them they can be brain damaged,

Few lads on F&F must have tetany in that case!!
Better tell Greysides to stop saving them!!

dh1985

We always have hi mags out with the cows during the shoulder months of the year. This year they are split into dry cows and cows with calves. Is there a need to have hi mag buckets with the dry cows.

Reggie.

Count Mondego wrote: »

Would you not be safe enough with a hi-mag mineral bucket in the field?

Hard to know if all the cows are licking from them tho

Mad4simmental

dh1985 wrote: »

We always have hi mags out with the cows during the shoulder months of the year. This year they are split into dry cows and cows with calves. Is there a need to have hi mag buckets with the dry cows.

No

Count Mondego

dh1985 wrote: »

We always have hi mags out with the cows during the shoulder months of the year. This year they are split into dry cows and cows with calves. Is there a need to have hi mag buckets with the dry cows.

I had a dry dairy cow die from it a few years ago. Christmas f#cking day so I never bothered going down to see the 3 dry cows at the end of the farm. She was susceptible to it though. When milking and she'd start getting it she used challenge the dog, always the sign ha.

My sucklers are weaned for the last 2 weeks and I'll keep buckets in front of them for at least another 2 weeks. They're currently going through 2 a week for 20 cows.

frazzledhome

In calf heifers will be housed Nov 1 with lighter ones left out in grass and meal.
Lighter ones will be housed 1 mth before start of calving

All weanlings will remain out till Xmas with heavier ones housed if necessary.

Again lighter ones will remain outside on grass

Farrell

All went in this weekend, easier to work in the shed apin the dark rather than outside with a lamp.
Get the sheep to clean off over the winter

Stan27

we are 50.50. the ones in are calves and for fattening, and the rest out and no problem with them. land is great at the moment. fantastic weather

Reggie.

I'd say after today cattle are closer to the sheds

Muckit

Well are they in the field next to the yard?

larrymiller

Muckit wrote: »

Well are they in the field next to the yard?

Bet me to it. To many smart arses

severeoversteer

Stan27 wrote: »

we are 50.50. the ones in are calves and for fattening, and the rest out and no problem with them. land is great at the moment. fantastic weather

are you stanflt's beef cousin????:D

mahoney_j

Loads of grass and under foot conditions excellent.managing with strip wires and pigtails.cow ground will have 64% closed by end of week.will stretch remainder till late November .in calf heifers following heifer calves .enough grass for at least 5 weeks.bull calves have about 6 weeks grass left .all going well nothing will hit sheds till early December.been some year and even better back end

severeoversteer

the casualty weanlings are in the shed

but the rest are out and will be out until they have all the grass and rape ate

wont even start grazing rape for another month at least

have a ridiculous amount of silage in the yard but I would be even crazier if I bought in stores for winter finishing, so it remains to be decided what beasts are going to eat it all

Greengrass1

Cows will be finished up grazing by end of the week..getting rid of culls soon and drying off 15/20 thiz week
Incalf Heifers have anothet 2 wls of grass and calves have a good month ahead of them.
Good going considering I onlu spread 20ac of N 2nd week of September.
Doesn't feel like October at all

larrymiller

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Cows will be finished up grazing by end of the week..getting rid of culls soon and drying off 15/20 thiz week
Incalf Heifers have anothet 2 wls of grass and calves have a good month ahead of them.
Good going considering I onlu spread 20ac of N 2nd week of September.
Doesn't feel like October at all

Is that the last time you spread fert?
Good work if so

Greengrass1

larrymiller wrote: »

Is that the last time you spread fert?
Good work if so

Yep had spent a good bit on fert this yr and couldn't afford any more tbh

larrymiller

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Yep had spent a good bit on fert this yr and couldn't afford any more tbh

Ah yeah but shur as they say a tonne of fert goes further than a tonne of meal.

larrymiller

Weanings in now. Fym spread today so that's all that cl

larrymiller

Weanings in now. Fym spread today so that's all that closed off. Will use the rest of the cattle to graze the place off and then they'll be in probably 10-14 days.

Robson99

Heavy heifers [650 kg] in today. Have been getting small amount of barley at grass. 70 days hard feeding now and ready for kill first week in Jan all going well

larrymiller

Robson99 wrote: »

Heavy heifers [650 kg] in today. Have been getting small amount of barley at grass. 70 days hard feeding now and ready for kill first week in Jan all going well

What breed and age are they? They'll be a good weight by jan

Robson99

larrymiller wrote: »

What breed and age are they? They'll be a good weight by jan

Charolais. 20 to 22 months. Hope to have them k.o. 400- 420kgs

Mad4simmental

Cows dryed off and back out in the field. Weanings in the shed for winter. Hopefully get another few weeks out for the cows and heifers.

Milked out

Autumn maidens coming in Fri. Maybe another week for any dry in calf stock. Milking cows will have 10 days to 2 weeks of grass left unless it dries significantly.calves Will be in in around 10 to 14 days again if it becomes dry may be able to extend that. If weather is dry will stretch cows on grass but if not will try to get thru it fast.

Miname

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Cows dryed off and back out in the field. Weanings in the shed for winter. Hopefully get another few weeks out for the cows and heifers.

Do you mind me asking why did you put the weanlings in and cows out? Would the cows not do more damage out and easier control their feeding if in? Just curious not trying to be smart.

Mad4simmental

Miname wrote: »

Do you mind me asking why did you put the weanlings in and cows out? Would the cows not do more damage out and easier control their feeding if in? Just curious not trying to be smart.

Cows are out on a good dry field they should be grand. I'm afraid of the weanlings braking out of any field I put them in around the house looking for the cows. Depending on weather they might get out for a few more weeks in a week or two but I doubt that'll happen. Fields away from the farm are closed for the year.

jack o shea

Anyone sell fr bullocks lately?hard to sell them?

Muckit

First silage bale opened yesterday evening. Brought in one bunch as some amount of rain has fallen the last few days.

Rest will be coming in tomorrow.

F.D

Only 14 cattle left out and they will be housed tomorrow i put in the rest of the stock last weekend, some difference in them in a week since they got silage
grass was doing nothing for them

Reggie.

All in here bar the weanling bull calves