Water tax & Household Benefits Package

n97 mini

Just spotted this.

If you're in receipt of the Household Benefits Package from the Dept of Social Welfare you will get €100 a year towards water tax even if you don't pay it!

From January 2015 the Household Benefits Package will include a new Water Support payment. This will be €100 each year (made up of four equal payments of €25). The Water Support payment will be paid to everyone who qualifies for the Household Benefits Package (including people who are not customers of Irish Water

What a great little country!

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/extra_social_welfare_benefits/household_benefits_package.html

touts

n97 mini wrote: »

Just spotted this.

If you're in receipt of the Household Benefits Package from the Dept of Social Welfare you will get €100 a year towards water tax even if you don't pay it!



What a great little country!

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/extra_social_welfare_benefits/household_benefits_package.html

While I also have serious reservations with the way the welfare system often throws money around on the most obscure benefits in this case I understand where they are coming from. You can't give it to someone who is a customer of Irish Water and tell someone in rural Ireland who had to pay to sink and maintain their own well or is paying for a group water scheme they don't qualify for the payment.

BoJack Horseman

This was leaked before the budget & announced with considerable fanfare on the day.

Its well known.

Rightwing

Irish water needs to be dissolved. It's a national embarrassment.

Tiger Mcilroy

Rightwing wrote: »

Irish water needs to be dissolved. It's a national embarrassment.

It will rumble on and on, its sad that such an oppurtunity to provide real improvements to the way water is provided has been mismanaged from day one but its no surprise when you see the absurd way it was set up.

Rightwing

Tiger Mcilroy wrote: »

It will rumble on and on, its sad that such an oppurtunity to provide real improvements to the way water is provided has been mismanaged from day one but its no surprise when you see the absurd way it was set up.

Just a nice number for some of the boys like Tierney.

He is 'humbled' by the IW workers :rolleyes:

n97 mini

touts wrote: »

You can't give it to someone who is a customer of Irish Water and tell someone in rural Ireland who had to pay to sink and maintain their own well or is paying for a group water scheme they don't qualify for the payment.

There are other supports available already to rural dwellers
- Subsidies for group water schemes
- Grants towards wells
- €4000 grant towards septic tank maintenance

So it's quite possible someone who is in receipt of the €100 will never have to spend it on anything water related.

barneystinson

Rightwing wrote: »

Irish water needs to be dissolved. It's a national embarrassment.

You can't dissolve water though, can you...


(Gets his coat...)

barneystinson

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

This was leaked before the budget & announced with considerable fanfare on the day.

Which proves that they can't fix the leaks until after everyone starts paying for their water...


(Puts on his coat and leaves!)

Rightwing

barneystinson wrote: »

You can't dissolve water though, can you...


(Gets his coat...)

Dissolve Irish, keep the water.

Even the diehard PS punters are embarrassed by the shambles that's unfolding now.

Icepick

spongers gonna sponge

Rightwing

Icepick wrote: »

spongers gonna sponge

But who are the spongers...the State ?

barneystinson

Rightwing wrote: »

But who are the spongers...the State ?

Actually, sponges might just be the answer....

Rightwing

barneystinson wrote: »

Actually, sponges might just be the answer....

I think so Barney.

The Govt are running into huge difficulties over this water fiasco. They need something to mop up the damage.

barneystinson

Rightwing wrote: »

I think so Barney.

The Govt are running into huge difficulties over this water fiasco. They need something to mop up the damage.

Well that would be a job for a mop, surely?

Rightwing

barneystinson wrote: »

Well that would be a job for a mop, surely?

Kenny & Tierney should be used as the mop.

Buck stops at the top.

hfallada

Rightwing wrote: »

I think so Barney.

The Govt are running into huge difficulties over this water fiasco. They need something to mop up the damage.

We need a water company to manage, maintain and upgrade the infrastructure to our most important resource. Without decent water we will have no industry as it wouldnt be safe to produce goods here. There is obviously going to be issues creating the largest state body possibly ever. The ESB wasnt set up overnight. It was a slow and expensive process and IW is the same.

Every other country in Europe pay for water in a user pays principle. The same is being introduced here. We are taking the cost of supplying water in Ireland from general taxation to what the person uses. This is what is done in every country in Ireland

We had the same mindset of this is a "disgrace" etc with the introduction of bin charges. Remember some people went to jail over protesting. But eventually everyone cooperate with the bin charges and there is no resistance anymore. But more importantly most households have gone from massive black bins weekly, to small ones fortnightly. They are recycling more as they have to pay for their waste.

If people pay for water, they wont waste it. There will no longer be watering of lawns in the summer. Or running of taps over night to stop them freezing

RustyRobo

To be eligible for the grant, the house has to be over 7 years old and not connected to a public supply. So how have you been getting water for at least the last seven years? Most likely because you already have a well, that's bought and paid for out of your own pocket!

So gracious as this gesture may appear - I'd like to see just how may have been paid out.

RustyRobo

To be eligible for the grant, the house has to be over 7 years old and not connected to a public supply. So how have you been getting water for at least the last seven years? Most likely because you already have a well, that's bought and paid for out of your own pocket!

So gracious as this gesture may appear - I'd like to see just how many have been paid out.

Rightwing

hfallada wrote: »

We need a water company to manage, maintain and upgrade the infrastructure to our most important resource. Without decent water we will have no industry as it wouldnt be safe to produce goods here. There is obviously going to be issues creating the largest state body possibly ever. The ESB wasnt set up overnight. It was a slow and expensive process and IW is the same.

Every other country in Europe pay for water in a user pays principle. The same is being introduced here. We are taking the cost of supplying water in Ireland from general taxation to what the person uses. This is what is done in every country in Ireland

We had the same mindset of this is a "disgrace" etc with the introduction of bin charges. Remember some people went to jail over protesting. But eventually everyone cooperate with the bin charges and there is no resistance anymore. But more importantly most households have gone from massive black bins weekly, to small ones fortnightly. They are recycling more as they have to pay for their waste.

If people pay for water, they wont waste it. There will no longer be watering of lawns in the summer. Or running of taps over night to stop them freezing

We also need to see our taxes falling. Property charges, water charges, refuse charges, what exactly are we paying failing councils for?