No Apartment left to rent in Dublin

Alakbd

Guys,
I was searching for apartment to rent in Dublin within €850 to €1000 (2 bed room) and found there are no apartments at all. I was looking into several property website but so far no luck. Just few months back apartments were available with suitable price. Now they all gone. I was wondering what going on here??

Cathmandooo

Your budget is too low, a 2 bed place in Dublin City will be on average €1300-€1500 per month. Demand is high, supply is low at the moment.

Plus it's a busier time of year with college students taking the bulk of the properties in September.

January

Wut...

http://www.daft.ie/dublin-city/houses-to-rent/?s%5Barea_type%5D=on&s%5Bmnp%5D=850&s%5Bmxp%5D=1000&s%5Bmnb%5D=2&s%5Badvanced%5D=1

AndonHandon

January wrote: »

Wut...

http://www.daft.ie/dublin-city/houses-to-rent/?s%5Barea_type%5D=on&s%5Bmnp%5D=850&s%5Bmxp%5D=1000&s%5Bmnb%5D=2&s%5Badvanced%5D=1

I wouldn't call Balbriggan, Swords, Tallaght, Donabate, Rush, Lusk, Finglas, Kinsealy, Ballymun, Clonsilla, Skerries and Lucan 'Dublin City' within the boundaries of this forum. Further, a two bedroom apartment in Ballyfermot for €1,000? Jog on!

adamski8

I know what you mean OP, i just searched for 5 bed mansion with pool and heli pad for 1300e a month and nothing as well! What the hell government!

January

AndonHandon wrote: »

I wouldn't call Balbriggan, Swords, Tallaght, Donabate, Rush, Lusk, Finglas, Kinsealy, Ballymun, Clonsilla, Skerries and Lucan 'Dublin City' within the boundaries of this forum. Further, a two bedroom apartment in Ballyfermot for €1,000? Jog on!

Finglas, Ballymun and Ballyfermot definitely come under the remit of this forum though

Point is, you posted there are no apartments for rent in 'Dublin' for €850-€1000 a month. There are your choices.

Gumbo

AndonHandon wrote: »

I wouldn't call Balbriggan, Swords, Tallaght, Donabate, Rush, Lusk, Finglas, Kinsealy, Ballymun, Clonsilla, Skerries and Lucan 'Dublin City' within the boundaries of this forum. Further, a two bedroom apartment in Ballyfermot for €1,000? Jog on!

2 bed apartments are yielding just over 1k per month in Finglas all day long

January

I've lived in Finglas, and Ballymun (actually the same place, different building to the one advertised) and both are nice areas.

anncoates

How dare somebody suggest people live within easy commuting distance of the city centre.

Larry Wildman

January wrote: »

I've lived in Finglas, and Ballymun (actually the same place, different building to the one advertised) and both are nice areas.

I don't think that's a fair or accurate statement.

Neither Finglas nor Ballymun are "nice areas".

ProudDUB

Larry Wildman wrote: »

I don't think that's a fair or accurate statement.

Neither Finglas nor Ballymun are "nice areas".

I'm going to take a wild guess here, and and say that you have zero knowledge of either one. Both Ballymun & Finglas definitely have parts that would not qualify for the description of "nice." But both of them also have parts that are perfectly fine. They would generally border Glasnevin/Glasnevin North, Ballygall and Santry. The only thing is, they would probably not be within the OP's budget. As DCU is also in the area, the OP would face stiff competition in the accommodation stakes from students.

Larry Wildman

ProudDUB wrote: »

Both Ballymun & Finglas definitely have parts that would not qualify for the description of "nice." But both of them also have parts that are perfectly fine

That is not what the poster said.

He/she said Finglas and Ballymun are "nice areas".

tenifan

Where in Dublin are you looking? Let me guess, walking distance to city centre?
Be realistic! Your budget might get you 2 rooms in a house share. Or an apartment within walking distance of a half-decent commuter route. in which case, commuting will add to your costs and sap some joy out of your life.
This thread has been done very recently fyi. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057301178
In summary, it's all down to supply and demand.

Edit: as for the reasonable prices a few months ago.. Over the past few years there probably were some bargains to be had. Great for people who signed medium term leases but for the majority of people they'll be facing rent hikes at the end of their first year

Dord

Even before the recent increases, you'd struggle to find a 2 bed under €1000. Most seemed to be just over. I think you'll need to up your budget to at least 1200 now if not more.

Useful.Idiot

yep. 850-1000 seems to be the average amount for a one bedroom nowadays. To keep rent manageable you should probably be searching for 3/4 bedrooms.

As an aside, I lived on main street Ballymun in a nice apartment for a college year and it was fine.

Alakbd

Thanks for all your comment. But look at the economy, is it still much more better than 2006/2007 or 2008. I can bet you on that you there were much more people living in Dublin before and the prices were min €1100 to €1300. Mostly with €1100 you would get a nice 2 bed room apt in City Centre (Specially D1, D2, D7) which seems now nothing at all. I am living in Dublin for last 12 years (D1& D2). It is terrible time now. Students came to city centre because of Study purpose I can understand that. But it is not happening for the first time. But crisis like that I never saw. So there might be other reason I don't know what it is. But this is the reality.

Lux23

People were still building apartments in 2006/2007, this isn't the case anymore so stock is running out.

power pants

looking forward for the next crash. I hate this country so much

Lux23

Yes, because property booms and busts are completely Irish phenomenon.

syklops

Alakbd wrote: »

Thanks for all your comment. But look at the economy, is it still much more better than 2006/2007 or 2008. I can bet you on that you there were much more people living in Dublin before and the prices were min €1100 to €1300. Mostly with €1100 you would get a nice 2 bed room apt in City Centre (Specially D1, D2, D7) which seems now nothing at all. I am living in Dublin for last 12 years (D1& D2). It is terrible time now. Students came to city centre because of Study purpose I can understand that. But it is not happening for the first time. But crisis like that I never saw. So there might be other reason I don't know what it is. But this is the reality.

There are more people living in Dublin Now.

OP, why do you want a 2 bed? There is only one of you. And if you are living in the city centre you will be out a lot and dont need a big place - practically speaking.

Greenmachine

The market out there has certainly got worse. When I was looking at places in april of last year saw some lovely 1 beds, with lots of room for 800. Prices have exploded and the op wants a 2 bed for something similar.

Alf Veedersane

Two words:

Supply.

Demand.

starlit

I'd suggest to look outside the city, mainly the suburbs or areas outside Dublin that have good transport links. Public transport and commuting might be a consideration if trying to get an apartment with those prices. Its impossible to get a two bedroom place, you be lucky to get a one bedroom place for your budget.

AndonHandon

doovdela wrote: »

I'd suggest to look outside the city, mainly the suburbs or areas outside Dublin that have good transport links. Public transport and commuting might be a consideration if trying to get an apartment with those prices. Its impossible to get a two bedroom place, you be lucky to get a one bedroom place for your budget.

I would completely recommend not doing this; the cost of your daily commute together with taxis home from nights out mean it isn't worth the cheaper rent.

January

There are nice areas in Finglas and Ballymun... Don't tar a whole area with the same brush :rolleyes:

Larry Wildman

January wrote: »

There are nice areas in Finglas and Ballymun... Don't tar a whole area with the same brush :rolleyes:

Nobody said that there weren't.

What was challenged is the view that Finglas and Ballymun are nice areas.

They are not.

Aard

People tend to view certain parts of Dublin with extreme optimism in this forum. The other day somebody described Raheny as "upper class". Yeah, just like how Finglas is a "nice area". The latter isn't one of the cheapest parts of Dublin for nothing.

ProudDUB

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Nobody said that there weren't.

What was challenged is the view that Finglas and Ballymun are nice areas.

They are not.

Is every single square inch of Finglas and Ballymun nice? No, they are not.

Is every single square inch of Finglas and Ballymun an unmitigated kip? No, they are not.

Do Finglas and Ballymun have considerably larger areas that the average person would consider to be dodgy, compared to Ballsbridge & Foxrock? Yes, they do.

The bottom line is that ALL of Ballymun & Finglas are not horrible areas. To imply that they are, is ignorance & snobbery plain and simple.

Take a drive up Ballymun Rd from Griffith Ave to Collins Ave & have a look at the lovely large, detached, red brick houses from the Victorian era. Have a look at the cars in the driveways and all of the DCU students & locals making use of Albert Park. You could be in Ranelagh or Rathgar, if you didn't know better. Does it get rougher the closer you get to the Ballymun flats are? Yes, it does. But there is a lot more to Ballymun than the flats, despite what you see on the news.

ShoulderChip

ProudDUB wrote: »

Is every single square inch of Finglas and Ballymun nice? No, they are not.

Is every single square inch of Finglas and Ballymun an unmitigated kip? No, they are not.

Do Finglas and Ballymun have considerably larger areas that the average person would consider to be dodgy, compared to Ballsbridge & Foxrock? Yes, they do.

The bottom line is that ALL of Ballymun & Finglas are not horrible areas. To imply that they are, is ignorance & snobbery plain and simple.

Take a drive up Ballymun Rd from Griffith Ave to Collins Ave & have a look at the lovely large, detached, red brick houses from the Victorian era. Have a look at the cars in the driveways and all of the DCU students & locals making use of Albert Park. You could be in Ranelagh or Rathgar, if you didn't know better. Does it get rougher the closer you get to the Ballymun flats are? Yes, it does. But there is a lot more to Ballymun than the flats, despite what you see on the news.

great, can we get back on topic now?

ProudDUB

ShoulderChip wrote: »

great, can we get back on topic now?

Finding the OP somewhere decent to live, that is within his budget? Sure.

When you have finished doling out the incredibly witty one line put downs, perhaps you would care to contribute something that could be of actual use to the OP? If it's not too much trouble ! :rolleyes:

B.A._Baracus

Alakbd wrote: »

Guys,
I was searching for apartment to rent in Dublin within €850 to €1000 (2 bed room) and found there are no apartments at all. I was looking into several property website but so far no luck. Just few months back apartments were available with suitable price. Now they all gone. I was wondering what going on here??

Greed.
There is a domino effect happening because all this crap started in January. Various media outlets reported that the price of housing was going up, so in turn, landlords put their rent up.

I would be willing to place a large wager that if someone appeared on the RTE 6.01 news tomorrow stating that "rent prices are expected to go up by 10% in the next quarter" - That alone would put rents up.

Larry Wildman

ProudDUB wrote: »

Is every single square inch of Finglas and Ballymun nice? No, they are not.

Is every single square inch of Finglas and Ballymun an unmitigated kip? No, they are not.

Do Finglas and Ballymun have considerably larger areas that the average person would consider to be dodgy, compared to Ballsbridge & Foxrock? Yes, they do.

The bottom line is that ALL of Ballymun & Finglas are not horrible areas. To imply that they are, is ignorance & snobbery plain and simple.

Take a drive up Ballymun Rd from Griffith Ave to Collins Ave & have a look at the lovely large, detached, red brick houses from the Victorian era. Have a look at the cars in the driveways and all of the DCU students & locals making use of Albert Park. You could be in Ranelagh or Rathgar, if you didn't know better. Does it get rougher the closer you get to the Ballymun flats are? Yes, it does. But there is a lot more to Ballymun than the flats, despite what you see on the news.

Serious question - Do you actually read other people's posts?

I am challenging the view that Finglas and Ballymun are nice areas.

You (and others) are diving in and screaming "they have nice parts to them".

That is not the same thing.

Are they nice areas? No, they're not, and to suggest otherwise is crazy.

chopper6

Larry Wildman wrote: »

I am challenging the view that Finglas and Ballymun are nice areas.

Based on what?

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Larry Wildman wrote: »

Are they nice areas? No, they're not, and to suggest otherwise is crazy.

How do you quantify a "nice" area?

No social housing?

Nobody in tracksuits?

There's not one "nice" area in the city that doesnt have social housing and people in tracksuits living withing a five minute walk...look at Monkstown,Dun Laoighre and Killiney..all have substatntial "corporation" housing devlopments nearby.

I've lived in finglas for over 13 years and i can tell you in terms or bus routes,shopping facilities,proximity to the M50 and sheer friendlyness of the inhabitants it's an area thats hard to beat.

I think a lot of people want to live in gated apartment complexes where they never interact with anybody and like to think they're in some way shielded from the rest of the world.

odyssey06

On the assumption that "nice" means crime levels and feelings of safety, given that I don't think there are crime statistics available by Dublin area, the best you can do is...

If you want a 'big data' idea of what's a "nice" area and what isn't, go onto an insurance company website like Aviva.ie, put in the address of the property you're thinking of renting. Put in all other values as the same as your current one.
See what the premium is.

Use your current address as a bench mark. See what it's premium is.

If there's a significant difference in premium, that indicates a difference in the level of property crime in the area.
It could also indicate that the property is at risk of flooding, but usually they won't even give you a quote online if that's the case.

You can do the same for your car insurance. Use the same vehicle and proposer details. If there's a difference between two Dublin postcodes, that likely reflects levels of car theft from people in that area.

Lux23

According to an article in the Times today, there are noisy flags in Dublin 4 near the Indian embassy so I am defintely not moving there. The horror that some people have to put up with.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/dublin-4-residents-fail-to-stop-plans-for-indian-embassy-1.1967369

chopper6

odyssey06 wrote: »

If you want a 'big data' idea of what's a "nice" area and what isn't, go onto an insurance company website like Aviva.ie, put in the address of the property you're thinking of renting. Put in all other values as the same as your current one.
See what the premium is.

Use your current address as a bench mark. See what it's premium is.

If there's a significant difference in premium, that indicates a difference in the level of property crime in the area.
.

What exactly is "property crime" and how does it affect premiums?

Aard

That headline is so misleading, as if flag noise was the main or only problem. The area is zones R2 and the Board Inspector recommended against grant of permission, so it certainly is newsworthy but not in the fashion that the Times has reported.

odyssey06

chopper6 wrote: »

What exactly is "property crime" and how does it affect premiums?

Break-ins, burglaries, theft of items from house e.g. not muggings as you don't claim on your house insurance for that. That's going to be the most frequent high-value type of claim.
The more such claims in a particular area (different insurance companies will have a different concept of area, for some its postcode, for some it's parish, for some it's a "block" of properties) the higher the premiums will be if you look for cover in that area.
If all other things on the quote are the same (proposer age, house profile, contents and buildings value) that's the most likely reason for premium difference.

The other things you typically claim for are rare but expensive (fire), or more frequent but low value (lightning damage) and unlikely to be something that differentiates one area from another.
Floods as mentioned are likely to result in the whole area being declined for new business. Try to get a quote online for an area that has flooded in last 5 years and you're likely to draw a blank.

Peter Anthony

Dont bother asking on this forum you wont get non biased answers. If you listened to most of the regular posters here you'd believe Dublin was Europes greatest City and there is zero crime because they didn't see any. They'd have you living in some kip of a street in Finglas or paying stupid money for a damp studio apartment in the City Centre, complain and "its better than London and Paris".

Dublin shouldnt be compared to either, its 10 times the kip they are , with twice the prices and 1/10 of the amenities.

tricky D

Peter Anthony wrote: »

Dont bother asking on this forum you wont get non biased answers. If you listened to most of the regular posters here you'd believe Dublin was Europes greatest City and there is zero crime because they didn't see any. They'd have you living in some kip of a street in Finglas or paying stupid money for a damp studio apartment in the City Centre, complain and "its better than London and Paris".

Dublin shouldnt be compared to either, its 10 times the kip they are , with twice the prices and 1/10 of the amenities.

Mode note: this type of posting is far less than helpful, contains sweeping generalisations which are against the charter, is generally attacking posters who have a different but valid opinion - again after a previous warning. Don't post again in this thread unless you can improve your posts. Some other posters should bear this note in mind too.

Faith+1

Peter Anthony wrote: »

Dublin shouldnt be compared to either, its 10 times the kip they are , with twice the prices and 1/10 of the amenities.

Are you for real? Dublin has it's problems like any major city but calling it 10 times worse than London or Paris is taking the p*ss.

Greenmachine

Greenmachine wrote: »

The market out there has certainly got worse. When I was looking at places in april of last year saw some lovely 1 beds, with lots of room for 800. Prices have exploded and the op wants a 2 bed for something similar.

Place across the hall from me is rented already. No idea if they got what they were asking. I know the one I am in was on daft at least a month before I looked at it. My how times change.

Hulk Hands

By the logic of some in this thread, we could say Ranelagh is a horrible place to live because it has the odd bad estate in it. You cant term an overall big area as nice just because certain parts of it happen to be ok. Every place in Dublin has nice parts and bad parts. Finglas has both, yet it has more bad parts than most. Therefore overall, it's not a nice place to live. Parts may be nice certainly, but we can't break down the city into every little estate.

For there to be nice places to live in a city, there must surely be mediocre places and 'not nice' places. We cant term every place as lovely. And while parts of Finglas are fine, overall it falls below most places in Dublin. Therefore it goes in the 'not nice' category

chopper6

Hulk Hands wrote: »

For there to be nice places to live in a city, there must surely be mediocre places and 'not nice' places. We cant term every place as lovely. And while parts of Finglas are fine, overall it falls below most places in Dublin. Therefore it goes in the 'not nice' category

Have you ever lived there?

Larry Wildman

chopper6 wrote: »

Have you ever lived there?

Would he need to live in Iraq to know that it's not a nice place to live?

cson

Depends on where your radar is for nice/not nice.

Fwiw, what I've seen is that there's a few sketchy areas in the City that are easily avoided. Swerving an entire area because the address has Finglas/Coolock/Whatever in it is at best ignorance, at worst downright stupidity.

People need to get the **** over themselves and accept that is the way the market is in Dublin right now; if you want your leafy southside suburb you're gonna have to pay for it.

chopper6

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Would he need to live in Iraq to know that it's not a nice place to live?

Well Iraq seems to have suited Iraqis for the last 5000 years...what is your point?

odyssey06

chopper6 wrote: »

Have you ever lived there?

So, disregarding price and distance, where wouldn't you live in Finglas? In Dublin? Are there any parts of Dublin you wouldn't want to live in? Why not?

And consider that if you are not from Finglas\Dublin it can be very hard to answer that question...

keane2097

I'm not sure what the massive opposition to acknowledging that rent prices all over Dublin are unsustainably high is all about here. It's a pretty obvious and generally accepted fact.

chopper6

odyssey06 wrote: »

So, disregarding price and distance, where wouldn't you live in Finglas? In Dublin? Are there any parts of Dublin you wouldn't want to live in? Why not?

I asked the previous poster who seems to know all about finglas as an area has he ever lived there.

I'm still waiting on a reply.

TheBandicoot

This is not going to get any better either - http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1023/654253-rent/

Nearly a third of landlords want to sell and when they do most of these properties will be bought by owner-occupiers.

That is a looming crisis if I ever I heard of one.