Estonia v England. ITV1. KO 5pm

Mint Sauce

Anyone watching. ITV been pretty good with their coverage this weekend.

Kerrigooney

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Anyone watching. ITV been pretty good with their coverage this weekend.

Did they have Adrian Chiles killed?

Mint Sauce

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Did they have Adrian Chiles killed?

No I think he was there thursday night, but putting that aside, the ITV network has had some good games this weekend, and still have Denmark v Portugal on Tuesday, although there maybe another match that night for us to watch.

DenMan

Cans of Carling in the fridge! It doesn't get any more English than that!:pac:

xerces

^I've turned to Carling myself recently, 8 cans for €10 in local shops, tastes damn good too I think :pac:

Dozen Wicked Words

Chiles, Hoddle and Wright. The reason tv makers invented the mute button. Shame Andy Townsend isn't mutable.

Lee Dixon was a good signing from the BBC though.

Professional Griefer

Hart; Chambers, Cahill, Jagielka, Baines; Wilshere, Henderson, Delph, Lallana; Rooney, Welbeck

Why call up Clyne just to use Chambers rb?

GLaDOS

Professional Griefer wrote: »

Hart; Chambers, Cahill, Jagielka, Baines; Wilshere, Henderson, Delph, Lallana; Rooney, Welbeck

Why call up Clyne just to use Chambers rb?

No Sterling?

RQ2013

That is such a terrible team... No Sterling no Clyne... And that midfield... so poor... Delph is no way near international class

Dozen Wicked Words

Come on England.

jamesbere

Professional Griefer wrote: »

Hart; Chambers, Cahill, Jagielka, Baines; Wilshere, Henderson, Delph, Lallana; Rooney, Welbeck

Why call up Clyne just to use Chambers rb?

Chambers to get booked, he's getting fond of that this season

Mint Sauce

DenMan wrote: »

Cans of Carling in the fridge! It doesn't get any more English than that!:pac:

Cant beleive they are still using that ad, was terrible during the WC, and it still is now.

ctrl-alt-delete

Nervy start for England.

Agent Coulson

Estonia have one corner in the first minute.

Townsend... England will have a harder game than on thursday but its not insurmountably and I expect England to win.

LOL.

Must be great crack being stuck beside the trumpet chap!

Kerrigooney

I'm not enjoying this game at all.

MagicIRL

If England get desperate for a goal, Estonia could very well break on the counter and go 1-0 up.

Dozen Wicked Words

Kerrigooney wrote: »

I'm not enjoying this game at all.

You can't have watched enough England games to know that generally this is as good as it gets.

Kerrigooney

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

You can't have watched enough England games to know that generally this is as good as it gets.

Really? Jaysus.

Not gonna bother with the second half. My daughter is playing with some Sylvanian stuff and it looks like way better fun than this game.

K4t

Chambers has been poor. Offers very little as an attacking threat. But then you'd expect that as he's not actually a right back whereas Clyne, who is an excellent one, sits on the bench. Typical Hodgson.

A case could be made for Shaw too, 30m and he can't displace Baines from the England team.

Dozen Wicked Words

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Really? Jaysus.

Not gonna bother with the second half. My daughter is playing with some Sylvanian stuff and it looks like way better fun than this game.

You have made a wise choice, think of us poor fools still here whilst you watch overpriced Mr and Mrs rabbit chatting to overpriced Mr and Mrs penguin.

GLaDOS

Something happened!

Stupid foul to get a 2nd yellow for.

Kenjataimu

Should be easier for England now, Estonia just got a man sent off.

microsim

Delph you cheating ******

Dozen Wicked Words

High and wide my prediction for this free kick

Dozen Wicked Words

Come on now England ffs.

Kenjataimu

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

High and wide my prediction for this free kick

It was closer than I was expecting :pac:

Mint Sauce

Took his time to leave.

microsim

If England don't go on to win this by at least 3 the manager has to go.

MagicIRL

K4t wrote: »

A case could be made for Shaw too, 30m and he can't displace Baines from the England team.

He's injured with a hamstring or thigh issue if I recall correctly.

microsim

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Took his time to leave.

it was a blatant dive in fairness. Delph along with the rest of the England superstars are a disgrace

microsim

Fook you Henderson

Dozen Wicked Words

microsim wrote: »

If England don't go on to win this by at least 3 the manager has to go.

1 nil will do me, despite betting on 3 - 1. Not many managers out there that would want the job anyway, or would be any better than Hodgson, who admittedly isn't great.

Shanotheslayer

microsim wrote: »

it was a blatant dive in fairness. Delph along with the rest of the England superstars are a disgrace

he clearly shoulder charged Delph. Clearly you have a bee in your bonnet about England

microsim

Things are bad when you have to dive against Estonia

Dozen Wicked Words

An hour gone, well it's simply flown by. Said no one.

Kirby

Give it over. I am the staunchest critic of diving of anybody on this forum.....and it wasn't a dive and was a clear yellow. He deserved to be sent off.

Dozen Wicked Words

Kirby wrote: »

Give it over. I am the staunchest critic of diving of anybody on this forum.....and it wasn't a dive and was a clear yellow. He deserved to be sent off.

I agree but ref has made few odd choices. One or two nasty tackles have gone in from both teams and haven't been punished. Cahill probably should have been booked for the blatant handball too.

microsim

Is Wilshire back on the fags?

RQ2013

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

1 nil will do me, despite betting on 3 - 1. Not many managers out there that would want the job anyway, or would be any better than Hodgson, who admittedly isn't great.

Thing about Hodgson is that he listens to the press etc and is afraid of criticism... Sterling should 100% be playing tonight but because Rodgers had a go at him over Sturridge he leaves him out . Similarly Chambers signs for Arsenal... Has one or two good games and suddenly the press are saying he deserves a call up.... Next thing Hodgson is starting him in the first 11...

Dozen Wicked Words

I think a point will be OK, we all know it's much harder to play against 10 plucky underdogs, the sending off didn't do England any favours. Any clean sheet is admirable, lot of fatigue, positive there's no injuries.

And that's all I've got.

dfx-

Red card doesn't help a Hodgson team, they need invention, imagination to break down a side.

Still they should do it. A shot on target would be good.

Professional Griefer

Rooney!!!

Dozen Wicked Words

Soft but thank fupp.

Mint Sauce

England certainly know how to make a game hard work.

RQ2013

Was just about to be taken off before that goal according to ITV... You would have thought that when Estonia went down to 10 that Hodgson would have brought on Ox and Townsend and got a bit of pace and width into his team... It's all so pedestrian and one paced... Still a win is a win

Kirby

Hodgson isn't the manager for England. He just doesn't have the tools needed for a team that's expected to win. Not that he is a bad coach, for example I'm positive he would keep QPR in the premier league. But you need more with a top team.

England will continue to struggle with him at the helm. Barely beating a 10 man Estonia is very poor.

AllGunsBlazing

Can see England side suffering the same fate in France as it did in Brazil. Nothing really outstanding about any of them. Comparable to a mid-table premiere league outfit, if even that.

Headshot

What ever happened to the next big thing, Jack Wilshere?

RQ2013

Headshot wrote: »

What ever happened to the next big thing, Jack Wilshere?

Been made of glass doesn't help... Spends half the game rolling around injured

Headshot

Headshot wrote: »

What ever happened to the next big thing, Jack Wilshere?

Rooney owes him a few assists, more successful dribbles and chances created than anyone on the pitch.