Looking for some help on a plane part

Markor69

Looking to find out some information for a plane part I have bought.

Stovepipe

like what?

endacl

Lever cap? Sole? Cutter nut?

Markor69

Sorry didn't realise the post had posted, I was trying to find out how to upload an image, but it won't let me.

I have been sold a part of a plane, it appears to be the front landing gear and wheel.

Where would I go to find out more information on this?? There are numbers on it like AF5679Y6 and 07637Y187 but I can't find anything in google.

martinsvi

wow, you're easy to work with, may I interest you in some sort of a car? 10k euro, cash only, no backsies

Stovepipe

Try Aero Part Identity Boards, for historical and current part numbers.

roundymac

Markor69 wrote: »

Sorry didn't realise the post had posted, I was trying to find out how to upload an image, but it won't let me.

I have been sold a part of a plane, it appears to be the front landing gear and wheel.

Where would I go to find out more information on this?? There are numbers on it like AF5679Y6 and 07637Y187 but I can't find anything in google.

You have to have 50 posts before you can upload an image AFAIK.

billy few mates

Markor69 wrote: »

Sorry didn't realise the post had posted, I was trying to find out how to upload an image, but it won't let me.

I have been sold a part of a plane, it appears to be the front landing gear and wheel.

Where would I go to find out more information on this?? There are numbers on it like AF5679Y6 and 07637Y187 but I can't find anything in google.

You sound like the Storeman in the last place I worked...

lintdrummer

Upload the image(s) here: http://www.wthax.org/ and paste the link that you get back in this thread so we can see it.

smurfjed

it appears to be the front landing gear and wheel.

Wheels are usually easy to identify as they are round! Nose wheel struts usually won't have any brake assemblies.

Peregrine

lintdrummer wrote: »

Upload the image(s) here: http://www.wthax.org/ and paste the link that you get back in this thread so we can see it.

Newbs aren't allowed to post links either.

billy few mates

I think we should make an exception in this case and allow him to post a pic, I'm dying to see what he actually bought...

jamo2oo9

billy few mates wrote: »

I think we should make an exception in this case and allow him to post a pic, I'm dying to see what he actually bought...

It's a boards.ie rule. It's to stop spammers so they must post 50 posts before they can add in links and pictures to their posts.

billy few mates

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

It's a boards.ie rule. It's to stop spammers so they must post 50 posts before they can add in links and pictures to their posts.

Well it clearly hasn't worked in this case, the guy sounds like a total spanner...

Tenger

billy few mates wrote: »

I think we should make an exception in this case and allow him to post a pic, I'm dying to see what he actually bought...

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

It's a boards.ie rule. It's to stop spammers so they must post 50 posts before they can add in links and pictures to their posts.

While I too am intrigued its a non runner. Boards.ie have this rule pretty much set in store due to some issues over the last couple of years.

eeyore2502

Here is the part.

Any ideas where we could find out more about it, i.e. What plane it is off etc.

Thanks

PapaQuebec

Looks more like a brakeless main gear assy than a nosewheel, though the mudguard makes it a strange one! - unless the wheel itself has rotated through 90*.

Markor69

sorry guys, boards wont even let me post a link , so i have no way of showing you.

martinsvi

eeyore2502 wrote: »

Here is the part.

Any ideas where we could find out more about it, i.e. What plane it is off etc.

Thanks

there's no way that thing came from a plane, try farming and forestry forum

lintdrummer

Can he not paste the link as plain text? Then we could copy and paste the link into the address bar old school style.

edit: I see the image got posted. I've no idea what that came off. Did the seller not have any info on it?

Markor69

its definitely of a plane ,the type is a good year aviation tyre.

lintdrummer

martinsvi wrote: »

there's no way that thing came from a plane, try farming and forestry forum

It's definitely an aircraft gear assembly of some sort.

martinsvi

Markor69 wrote: »

its definitely of a plane ,the type is a good year aviation tyre.

lintdrummer wrote: »

It's definitely an aircraft gear assembly of some sort.

are we talking about the picture attached to eeyore2502's post? That mudgard is quite inappropriate for aviation and the tyre depth/profile looks absolutely unsuitable. Even a small cessna has a wider tire than this! With a tyre like that you would skid easily, wheel would be prone to creeping and it wouldn't handle pressure from the side very well (it would come off the disk if you land in crosswinds and do not straighten the plane before touchdown)

eeyore2502

Yes the image I posted is the plane part we are talking about. I posted it for him as he can't post a picture yet with being a new user.

folbotcar

Actually several aircraft nose wheels had mudguards. The Gloster Meteor being one. It prevented muck entering the nose gear bay.

It's not from a meteor though. The Green colour is reminiscent of Russian aircraft. The crudeness of parts point to that too.

Is there any sign of Cyrillic writing on it?

martinsvi

I know that aircraft have mudgards, but usually they are quite flat and aerodynamic. This one looks like taken from a wheelbarrow.. I have to say, the more I look at it, the more I start to believe it IS a nose landing gear, but still the unusual dimensions of the tyre itself are extremely confusing

folbotcar

It looks similar to the nose gear of an old Cessna 310. Same shape mudguard. But that leg never came out of Wichita.

The more I look at it the more Russian it looks.

tom_k

It's interesting alright. I'm estimating that its total height is somewhere around 1.7 to 2 metres.

Perhaps the OP has more information about the seller or there are other markings on it apart from what he's already stated especially on the tyre?

billy few mates

Apart from the mudguard the rest of it looks aviation grade, assuming the wheel hasn't been turned through 90 degrees it looks like a main landing gear strut to me. If you look closely you can see the little hydraulic actuator for breaking the over centre lock to retract the leg and what could possibly be the retract actuator itself just tucked in behind. Also the split pins through the nuts and bolts suggest aircraft rather than agricultural to me.

cerastes

martinsvi wrote: »

I know that aircraft have mudgards, but usually they are quite flat and aerodynamic. This one looks like taken from a wheelbarrow.. I have to say, the more I look at it, the more I start to believe it IS a nose landing gear, but still the unusual dimensions of the tyre itself are extremely confusing

Id have thought some kind of main gear, is there anything there that suggests a steering control or anti shimmy?
Looks like the cylinder could be rotated by 90 degrees though.
Any braking assy on the other side of the rim?, thought maybe Russian too as looks pretty agricultural.

Must follow.

Stovepipe

Take photos of data plates and any visible numbers and lettering.

billy few mates

Why has that statue got a bandage on it's hand....?

cerastes

how did you come to buy this OP? and ermmm why?
I thought you were looking for information on a part from a functional aircraft originally.

martinsvi

cerastes wrote: »

Id have thought some kind of main gear, is there anything there that suggests a steering control or anti shimmy?
Looks like the cylinder could be rotated by 90 degrees though.
Any braking assy on the other side of the rim?, thought maybe Russian too as looks pretty agricultural.

Must follow.

The lack of visible brake mechanism suggest me that it could be a nose gear. I've done a lot of digging and I simply couldn't find a plane with that sort of wheel dimensions. Will have to wait for OP to publish all the numbers and and letters he/she can find on the bloody thing...

cerastes

martinsvi wrote: »

The lack of visible brake mechanism suggest me that it could be a nose gear. I've done a lot of digging and I simply couldn't find a plane with that sort of wheel dimensions. Will have to wait for OP to publish all the numbers and and letters he/she can find on the bloody thing...

Isnt it possible that any hydraulic lines and a disc or even a drum?? might be or were previously on the other side of the wheel rim/undercarriage leg and any flexible hose since removed? it might still be a main gear.

Dont think its been mentioned, but wondering is it one main undercarriage wheel off a taildragger?
I was thinking off something with tricycle originally and trying to fit it to something.

any guesses as to era? and aircraft type?
Utility, post WW2 but Id say more recent than just after, probably piston driven?? or is this just clutching, trying to narrow it down.

2 stroke

its definitely of a plane ,the type is a good year aviation tyre.

Don't let that sway you. I've seen aviation tyres on combine harvestors. But there may be some date markings on the tyres, though probably not original tyres.

cerastes

2 stroke wrote: »

Don't let that sway you. I've seen aviation tyres on combine harvestors. But there may be some date markings on the tyres, though probably not original tyres.

Maybe its been kept as some kind of curio? like an old plough?
and just had a tyre that fitted, fitted.
Thats what I thought the OP might have bought this for after I saw it, Im bloody curious now.

2 stroke

Lots of agricultural machines have a fold up wheel that is used when towing the machine lengthways through gates and along the road and then folded up when the machine was used width ways in fields.

rossb2009

I believe having looked around on google images it's off a gloster javelin nose gear. There are images of them with the stoneguard on there.

rossb2009

tangmere-museum.org.uk/aircraft-month/gloster-javelin

just put www. in front of that......it won't let me post links.

martinsvi

rossb2009 wrote: »

I believe having looked around on google images it's off a gloster javelin nose gear. There are images of them with the stoneguard on there.

good find, that's a match allright! I'm absolutely shocked

cerastes

2 stroke wrote: »

Lots of agricultural machines have a fold up wheel that is used when towing the machine lengthways through gates and along the road and then folded up when the machine was used width ways in fields.

I had said "it might well be"

not unreasonable split pins are on other stuff, just the mechanism looks to much aircraft like and would a mudgaurd like that not likely have the potential to get clogged up on an agricultural machine?

cerastes

rossb2009 wrote: »

tangmere-museum.org.uk/aircraft-month/gloster-javelin

just put www. in front of that......it won't let me post links.

well I'll be,
Have to have a look and see how this was steered? differential braking?

nungesser

I used to be an A & P in the states and I can tell you this is not a nose gear as you can see all the linkages are on the side. Looks a bit to big to be from a Cessna 310 but i'm only guessing as to how tall it might be.

cerastes

From the few pictures I can garner

The wheel is at 90 degrees, looking up the aircraft mentioned its an exact match.
Ive read it had self centering nosewheel, which suggests no steering input? differential braking and thats what the mechanism is halfway up on the leftside Id say.
Well spotted that man.
Despite looking different, always thought that aircraft looked similar look to the sea vixen

sjb25

Here's one with the mudguard

cerastes

Couple of images where you can make out the nosewheel here too.

http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/javelin/gallery.php

nungesser

I think you found it lads heres from the same site with a sectioned marked undercarriage which has some close up shots
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/javelin/walkaround.php
even the rim on the wheel is the same,
so I have to retract my previous statement it is a nose gear.
I wonder if there is some restorers in the uk or states that could put your part to use?

El_robbo1980

Well done, you sir, are a Genmaster

martinsvi

so we have two questions unanswered - how did the gear ended up in Ireland and why did the OP buy it without knowing what it is?

2 stroke

Another great pic here http://web.ipmsusa3.org/sites/default/files/reviews/gloster-javelin-faw-99r/javelin_crew_ladder_and_nose_gear.jpg