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Redundancy

  • 05-10-2014 4:19pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1


    Two wks ago I was told there was going to be management restructuring in the company and I was given 3 options which I needed to chose from:

    1. Stay as I was and hopefully there would be a full time position for me in my branch
    2. Go part time, 3 days a week/multi site
    3. Redundancy -5wks per year of service

    After a lot of sleepless nights and endless conversations with my husband we decided that with 19yrs service a redundancy package would be a really good option for me. I passed on my interest on this and a couple of days later I received a one pager with a redundancy package breakdown and an overall figure. I sought advice re tax implications and was still happy to go with this.
    On Friday last I was told that my branch would not be restructuring my role so I was to stay as I am, no redundancy.
    Is there anything I can do about this considering I have received a figure and if there was to be no change to my role why was I offered this?
    I really want to fight this as I had made up my mind and was ready for a career change and am bitterly disappointed with the latest revelations.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Bepolite


    Speak to an employment solicitor which is something you should already, ideally, have done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭Tweedle Dumb


    From what I understand from the voluntary redundancies currently ongoing at my place of work, it is designed in a way, that you express interest in it, they come back with a figure which in fact is not an offer, just states if you apply and are successful this is the figure you will get so technically they never offered it and have no legal obligation to give it.

    As there were 3 options on the table I assumed the redundancy would be voluntary.

    Could be Completely wrong on this though. This is just based on how my workplace dealt with it. Yours may have done differently


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    If you take part time it can affect the quantum of future redundancy.

    I would speak to an employment sol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭Rob Thomas


    From what I understand from the voluntary redundancies currently ongoing at my place of work, it is designed in a way, that you express interest in it, they come back with a figure which in fact is not an offer, just states if you apply and are successful this is the figure you will get so technically they never offered it and have no legal obligation to give it.

    As there were 3 options on the table I assumed the redundancy would be voluntary.

    Could be Completely wrong on this though. This is just based on how my workplace dealt with it. Yours may have done differently

    Would agree with this. It was the same in my workplace. Nothing was an actual offer or acceptance until nearly the end of the process.

    I would imagine that the legal position would be that you were only given the three options because your existing role was changing. Now they have decided that your role is unaffected, the options no longer apply.

    I can see why you are disappointed as you only considered a change because they raised the issue and then took it away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭James esq


    Looks like an offer and acceptance to me, would look into it, wouldn't use a solicitor though. I would ring SIPTU and ask for the name of a retired official to represent and negotiate for you, they know the ropes and won't get you caught up in a costly legal battle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    James esq wrote: »
    Looks like an offer and acceptance to me, would look into it, wouldn't use a solicitor though. I would ring SIPTU and ask for the name of a retired official to represent and negotiate for you, they know the ropes and won't get you caught up in a costly legal battle.

    To me its invitation to treat, offer and no acceptance.

    Just noticed this is a 4 month old thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭rock22


    James esq wrote: »
    Looks like an offer and acceptance to me, would look into it, wouldn't use a solicitor though. I would ring SIPTU and ask for the name of a retired official to represent and negotiate for you, they know the ropes and won't get you caught up in a costly legal battle.

    I would be almost certain that SIPTU ( or any other union ) would not give you the name of a retired official .
    However I would be inclined to seek advice from a uniion , if you are a member, rather than a solicitor. Often, redundancy packages are negotiated by a union representing the staff. If this is the case then I would make contact with them.

    However, realistically, if you are not being made redundant you have no entitlement to redundancy payment.


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