Hijacking threats in the current climate?

Bang_Bang

Just wondering have any of the Irish airlines issued any warnings to their crew, given that ISIS are basically threatening the "west" with any means necessary to achieve their caliphate. I'm sure everyone remembers post 9/11 cockpit doors being reinforced and closed at all times, but in recent years I have noticed this has become relaxed, understandable since 9/11 was 13 years ago.

But with these nutjobs on the loose all over Europe it would seem, I would think the potential hijacking threat is significantly elevated.

That's just an opinion of mine, would anyone else agree?

Lapin

The airlines probably have issued briefings to their staff but its not the kind of thing they like to make public for obvious reasons.

Having said that, a threat of a potential hijacking would be be of more immediate concern for airport security.

BuffyBot

Bang_Bang wrote: »

Just wondering have any of the Irish airlines issued any warnings to their crew, given that ISIS are basically threatening the "west" with any means necessary to achieve their caliphate. I'm sure everyone remembers post 9/11 cockpit doors being reinforced and closed at all times, but in recent years I have noticed this has become relaxed, understandable since 9/11 was 13 years ago.

But with these nutjobs on the loose all over Europe it would seem, I would think the potential hijacking threat is significantly elevated.

That's just an opinion of mine, would anyone else agree?

Hijacking is a threat from another age. Apart from onboard security procedures having changed considerably (both in terms of physical precautions and policy on how to deal with hijack attempts) the heightened security pre-departure makes traditional hijacking very hard to pull off.

The modus operandi of the current players on the terror scene is maximum impact (i.e underwear bombs, electronics, liquid bombs) not hijackings. Why? Apart from the spectacular nature, they know traditional hijacks aren't really an option anymore.

Jack1985

The guidance is pretty straight forward and universal at nearly all airlines - the cockpit door remains closed and necessary actions to protect the aircraft/cockpit and passengers shall be taken by the crew.

After 9/11 all I can really say is any idiot who honestly thinks they can somehow breach the cockpit and survive in current times is clearly deranged. Any attempt would either result in them being restrained by crew or in all probability being either severely injured or killed by pax as demonstrated in the U.S. after 9/11.

I'm much more concerned with non-conventional methods, as pointed out hijackings are out in all probability.

smurfjed

Hijacking is a threat from another age.

I would love to agree with you, but unfortunately i can't. Hijackings are a real and everyday threat, but post 9-11, i don't believe that the results will ever be the same.

Bang_Bang

I hope you're right, my fear is that these clowns are so blinded by their idiotic beliefs that some young brainwashed thugs may try to do this. Or even worse they get their hands on a JASDF Type91 SAM and use it within EU borders. It won't stop me flying though, just something I had thought about, with 9/11 there was a focus point for these terrorists, with ISIS there is not, they are everywhere, living in everyones community.

man98

I doubt the Aer Arann BN Islander is hard to hijack… you won't get too far though and The Spire is the only thing to hit here!

EoghanIRL

What if the threat came from the flight crew themselves ?
If Isis turned one of the pilots or something like that .
I've been watching too much homeland haven't I.

Pat Dunne

EoghanIRL wrote: »

I've been watching too much homeland haven't I.

YES!

BuffyBot

EoghanIRL wrote: »

What if the threat came from the flight crew themselves ?
If Isis turned one of the pilots or something like that .
I've been watching too much homeland haven't I.

Always a possibility. Remote as it might be..but some things you simply cannot prevent every combinations of circumstances, just minimise risk.

jamo2oo9

EoghanIRL wrote: »

What if the threat came from the flight crew themselves ?
If Isis turned one of the pilots or something like that .
I've been watching too much homeland haven't I.

Even if one of the IS members became a pilot, they wouldn't get hired by the airlines as they are subjected to strict background checks before they are interviewed.

Fred Swanson

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keeponhurling

They could try a tiger hijacking , similar to tiger kidnapping

The pilot might put the lives of his family ahead of the passengers

smurfjed

as they are subjected to strict background checks before they are interviewed.

Is it rude to laugh about this statement?

I have a good friend who held a valid crew visa for the USA, but was refused a visit visa as he was deemed a risk!

Five Lamps

smurfjed wrote: »

I would love to agree with you, but unfortunately i can't. Hijackings are a real and everyday threat, but post 9-11, i don't believe that the results will ever be the same.

Would agree - like many air accidents, 9/11 was a perfect storm of a range of issues - security and intelligence failures. It wasn't down to one thing. Most of these have addressed so the risk is substantially minimised but not entirely removed.

Strumms

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Post 9/11 a similar style of attack is unlikely and it would take a great degree of negligence for it to happen, unthinkable.

However the scenario above could be possible. All sorts of people are having their heads turned by these people and that could be a worry.. Well is a worry.

fr336

Yeah I doubt many people even those informed could have seen 9/11 coming - one of those "well yeah anything's possible but come on"....everything's unlikely till it happens. Complacency has to be one of the worst human traits and that is saying something! :pac: I'd rather appear to be over the top personally.

Locker10a

Hijackings are very much considered a possibility by authorities and as recent as last week they were performing precautionary drills for this exact scenario I heard all about it and it sounded very real and very scary