Drench,pouron or injection.

I said

Which one do people use for dosing.Im using pouron and I'm not happy with the results any advice would be appreciated.

Muckit

I use the injection. I got a primatech injection 'gun.' They're around the €20-25 l think. Find it a fast and handy job. You could equally use an ordinary syringe, but slower if you have a few to do.

I use insulating tape to attach a piece of wire to the up turned bottle. I then have a velcro opening loop on work pants that holds bottle. Take off bottle to fill next round of crush.

At least you know the product is inside them and once you don't underdose you can say well it either did it's job or it didn't.

_Brian

We alternate, but we found Closamectin pour on poor enough.

Greengrass1

Muckit wrote: »

I use the injection. I got a primatech injection 'gun.' They're around the €20-25 l think. Find it a fast and handy job. You could equally use an ordinary syringe, but slower if you have a few to do.

At least you know the product is inside them and once you don't underdose you can say well it either did it's job or it didn't.

Used injections all yr here going with drench now

I said

_Brian wrote: »

We alternate, but we found Closamectin pour on poor enough.

Yes that's what I used this year not happy with it a bit hit and miss

Fuxake

We've been using cheap injectable ivermectins last couple of years on sucklers. Bit of hardship but it's not too bad if you squeeze em tight into crush. way cheaper than pour-ons is the key thing especially if you shop around for bigger bottles of generic ivermectin. So cheap that you might even consider giving it to heavier stock at winter housing.

Count Mondego

There was a deal on a cheap ivermectin on magenta last year, turbomec or some such name. 3 x 500ml for 75 quid. Might as well be injecting water into them, pure rubbish. As well as that the stuff goes off inside 30 days. Good luck using up 500ml in one month unless you do all the stock. Lesson learned, you get what you pay for. Drench with Albex 10% and find it effective.

I said

Was thinking about using albex when being housed this year

J.O. Farmer

Count Mondego wrote: »

There was a deal on a cheap ivermectin on magenta last year, turbomec or some such name. 3 x 500ml for 75 quid. Might as well be injecting water into them, pure rubbish. As well as that the stuff goes off inside 30 days. Good luck using up 500ml in one month unless you do all the stock. Lesson learned, you get what you pay for. Drench with Albex 10% and find it effective.

If you're buying the 500 ml for €25 then surely you'll have the value gotten from it after 28 days unless you have very few cattle. Also best of luck finding an injectable or any other product with a longer shelf life after broaching. 28 days is the standard for the preservative to be tested for.

visatorro

I said wrote: »

Which one do people use for dosing.Im using pouron and I'm not happy with the results any advice would be appreciated.

important to alternate between the three. cattle can become immune to one type if its constantly used, which leads to nightmare stuff

J.O. Farmer

visatorro wrote: »

important to alternate between the three. cattle can become immune to one type if its constantly used, which leads to nightmare stuff

I think you mean it's important to alternate between different classes of drugs as the parasites can become immune. No point alternating between an ivermectin pour on and an ivermectin injection.

Count Mondego

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

If you're buying the 500 ml for €25 then surely you'll have the value gotten from it after 28 days unless you have very few cattle. Also best of luck finding an injectable or any other product with a longer shelf life after broaching. 28 days is the standard for the preservative to be tested for.

Fine, but not great value if it doesn't work either, as I pointed out.

I said

Used levicide pour on this morning on younger stock.anyone else use it this year and what about results using it.

patjack

Count Mondego wrote: »

There was a deal on a cheap ivermectin on magenta last year, turbomec or some such name. 3 x 500ml for 75 quid. Might as well be injecting water into them, pure rubbish. As well as that the stuff goes off inside 30 days. Good luck using up 500ml in one month unless you do all the stock. Lesson learned, you get what you pay for. Drench with Albex 10% and find it effective.

I have done my yearlings with albex 10% at the weekend. Prior to this they got zanil drench just so they were getting something for Rumen fluke and prior to this Bimectin Plus injection. Month to 6 weeks between doses.

Problem is cattle are very dirty at the rear, I would've thought they'd have cleaned up by now.

They are thriving though but if they were someone elses stock I'd question whether they were dosed or not.

Anyone any opinions as to why they might still be so dirty? 100% grass diet.