Raw 15/09/14 *Spoilers*

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-WWE World Heavyweight Champion Brock Lesnar is returning to Raw, and John Cena will be looking for a fight.


-As Jericho’s collision with Orton awaits at Night of Champions, Y2J might get a startling reminder of why Orton was once known as The Legend Killer.


-A marquee Divas Tag Team Match has already been set for Raw pitting Brie & AJ against Nikki & Paige, but how will the ensuing chaos alter the three-way race for the Divas Title?


-Will The Miz have something up his tailored sleeve for Ziggler, or will the Hollywood star need a calming seaweed bath and shiatsu massage to de-stress before Night of Champions?


-Will Rollins look to stomp out Reigns’ momentum before their bout at Night of Champions?

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JP Liz V1

I'm really surprised Reigns Vs. Rollins one on one is happening tonight much better to save that for NOC ppv

brianregan09

That is a dumb move for sure ....Why give it away a week before the PPV ...Oh WWE

rovert

Obvious angle is obvious.

Strongbow10

rovert wrote: »

Obvious angle is obvious.

Ambrose to interrupt proceedings at the PPV and allow Reigns to get the win/or see him DQ'd in order to keep both Reigns and Rollins strong.

rovert

Strongbow10 wrote: »

Ambrose to interrupt proceedings at the PPV and allow Reigns to get the win/or see him DQ'd in order to keep both Reigns and Rollins strong.

More Kane giving Reigns a good Kane-ing with Rollins.

JP Liz V1

I want Heyman Vs. Cena

Rjd2

Its not far away from 2015 and Kane is still a thing.

JP Liz V1

Kurt Angle needs to rally for Henry

RobbingBandit

Pretty quite round these parts, why does Swagger look depressed.

riffmongous

Nikki looks pretty well tonight

Rjd2

I know I am not Brock Lesnar nor are many here, but anyone think Bo needs to bulk up a little? Looks pudgy.:o

RobbingBandit

Bray still awesome on the mic, very foley esque.

rovert

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Bray still awesome on the mic, very foley esque.

Foley actually made sense and spoke to people.

RobbingBandit

rovert wrote: »

Foley actually made sense and spoke to people.

Yeah he made sense alright, and I quote if your not down with that I've got thirteen words for ya, how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood.:p

paconnors

Great turnaround for bigshow..

RobbingBandit

When did Cesaro become Taz 2.0

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Sheamus

RobbingBandit

American ads are crazy, anti smoking, followed by fast food ads times ten followed by pro democrat propaganda.

RobbingBandit

It was half time 14 minutes ago, we want Brock, we want Brock, and so on.

rovert

Hour 3 got stapled ahead of Hour 2 in the script

shineon23

Rjd2 wrote: »

Its not far away from 2015 and Kane is still a thing.

17 more years!
17 more years!
17 more years!

No, just me? and WWE creative?

At least I've realised my mistake

Loughc

rovert wrote: »

Obvious angle is obvious.

Not so obvious now!

It was such a dumb move to give reigns such a clean win less than a week before the PPV.

The only way I see Rollins winning this if ambrose interferes and turns and cost reigns the match which makes even less sense!

Moneymaker

Reading the results, I'm absolutely baffled.

Who the **** wrote this show?

Dubliner28

Raw |Thread 2 pages

Think i'll give it a miss

Loughc

Moneymaker wrote: »

Reading the results, I'm absolutely baffled.

Who the **** wrote this show?

I can only assume monkies with typrewritters.... but I'm prob being a bit harsh on monkies.

D.Q

I know there is an annual slump. But Jesus. Raw has been so so bad the last few weeks.

SlickRic

I enjoyed the Cena/Heyman/Brock stuff, I'd have thought it will have sold a couple of subscriptions to the Network at least.

Omackeral

Needs more Ambrose.

rovert

Dubliner28 wrote: »

Raw |Thread 2 pages

Think i'll give it a miss

D.Q wrote: »

I know there is an annual slump. But Jesus. Raw has been so so bad the last few weeks.

Raw was good last week. Don't pretend otherwise.

Boards being quiet isn't that much of a barometer of show quality.

Moneymaker

The show was grand last week.

Booking this week from top to bottom almost was completely nonsensical.

A Rogue Hobo

I got to the Divas tag match, then turned it off and watched the TNA Asylum years DVD instead. Much better.

jaykhunter

So RAW's been poor 3 out of the last 4 weeks i.e. it's been garbage lately. No need to pull others up on it. The length of Boards threads indicates interest, and after last week's decent show, it didn't do anything. It's a fair (and correct) assumption that it's a skippable show.

P_1

I think its fair to suggest that WWE goes into a quasi 'preseason mode' between Summerslam and the Royal Rumble. To be honest can you blame them when they're up against the NFL during their time slots.

rovert

jaykhunter wrote: »

So RAW's been poor 3 out of the last 4 weeks i.e. it's been garbage lately. No need to pull others up on it. The length of Boards threads indicates interest, and after last week's decent show, it didn't do anything. It's a fair (and correct) assumption that it's a skippable show.

Boards in general has been quiet for a while and longer than the bad run of Raw.

Loughc

P_1 wrote: »

I think its fair to suggest that WWE goes into a quasi 'preseason mode' between Summerslam and the Royal Rumble. To be honest can you blame them when they're up against the NFL during their time slots.

Surely that should be more reason to try and compete harder. More so now than ever the WWE should consider an off season.

P_1

Loughc wrote: »

Surely that should be more reason to try and compete harder. More so now than ever the WWE should consider an off season.

But it'd be a competition they'd have no realistic hope of winning...

Loughc

P_1 wrote: »

But it'd be a competition they'd have no realistic hope of winning...

They don't need to win it at all, they need to compete to retain a strong market share of the audience. It'll like they've thrown in the towel lately with their booking.

Moneymaker

P_1 wrote: »

But it'd be a competition they'd have no realistic hope of winning...

Awesome attitude. We won't beat them so why bother trying?

Jaysus.

Rjd2

Moneymaker wrote: »

Awesome attitude. We won't beat them so why bother trying?

Jaysus.

Its brutal aye, but to be fair NFL is a ratings beast, lots of times they have been thrown out some hot shows around NFL time and they die a death ratings wise.

Honestly while we prefer Raw to be good, the ratings of the show really depends on how good the NFL is for the most part.

RobbingBandit

Swagger match was good, Kane vs Jericho was good/very good, Cena Heyman leading into Brock was great, the six man tag match was awesome and I fell asleep at 3:15am so can't say anything for the last hour, first Raw I have watched live in a few weeks while it wasn't the best for a go home show from what I did see it was watchable.

savemejebus

Was the entertainment value for Raw not off the charts last night? Where else can you see elite wrasslin action like this*?

P_1

Moneymaker wrote: »

Awesome attitude. We won't beat them so why bother trying?

Jaysus.

It's more a case of selecting your battles carefully to be honest.

gerrybbadd

savemejebus wrote: »

Was the entertainment value for Raw not off the charts last night? Where else can you see elite wrasslin action like this*?

Did she.... did she call for the ref to count a pin.... with her opponent face down???

Also, why are these 2 colour co-ordinated, if they are feuding now?

savemejebus

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Did she.... did she call for the ref to count a pin.... with her opponent face down???

Yes...Yes she did. I'm guessing she thought it would be the divalicious thing to do...

Omackeral

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Did she.... did she call for the ref to count a pin.... with her opponent face down???

Also, why are these 2 colour co-ordinated, if they are feuding now?

Ok, that's borderline racist. They were both born that wa... oh the outfits. Never mind.

They showed some Total Divas skit were the two girls were talking about going solo as if the Funkadactyls hadn't broken up months ago. If the episode was shot months ago that's fair enough but they were acting like it was current events. All that's gonna do is confuse people. No continuity.

Also, why was there a camera man also locked in Cena's dressing room with Heyman. Does he live in there?

Lord TSC

It was a bizarre Raw. I genuinely don't mind giving midcard feuds a boost by letting them close the show, but Henry/Rusev just didn't feel like a show closer to me. Cena/Brock actually would have made far, far more sense there.

Heyman's second promo about Cena becoming a Paul Heyman guy was good, and the pull apart was good. Shame it's a story they run every three months now where they tease a heel turn to try and get people to buy the C-Level PPV.

Reigns/Rollins makes no sense unless the plan is for Rollins to get a clean win on Sunday and then move quickly on from the feud.

RE: No point fighting NFL ratings....personally, two points I'd make.

Millions, domestically and internationally, do not watch NFL and thus just see a **** Raw for no reason, which damages them far, far more than trying and failing to compete.

Two, why not use that time to try some new things; give new guys pushes, try and come up with a few interesting stories, push the boat out. The attitude of "Ah, why bother?" is hugely damamging imo.

rovert

Let Becky write next week's show:

CastorTroy

Am I the only one who thinks it's stupid having matches on Raw based on something that was said on the latest Total Divas? I know Cameron and Naomi have history, but how often have they set up a match because Summer said something to Natalya months ago.

And when I first saw that gif, I thought it was Alicia so assumed she was just being crazy again. Remember that whole character they had going for Alicia which was entertaining tv?

And I really don't like the whole "America, F Yeah" storylines, for obvious reasons. Remember the UnAmericans getting cheered anytime they went outside America?

CSF

Weird Raw. They didn't really leave anything to the imagination. When you look at matches for Night of Champions they've pretty much all fullon gone at it tonight.

Reigns beats Rollins clean 6 days before they're the 2nd biggest match on the card at the PPV. Wtf? Reigns doesn't seem to be getting any better either, on the contrary he seems to be less entertaining by the week. Poor chap is doomed.

I do like that they went with Rusev v Henry as the end of the show though, and unlike some I'm all about the America **** Yeah stuff. I do worry though that they still haven't actually decided where all this Rusev build is going, and even though I think he is class, he is probably destined to be another victim of the Cena burial.

Cena v Heyman/Lesnar wasn't half as entertaining as the week before. Well mostly because it was the exact same until Brock showed up.

This will be one of those PPVs where I watch it the following morning before work rather than staying up, and hate you all for ruining the fact that Dean Ambrose is almost certainly going to be there.