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Mustang 2015

  • 11-09-2014 10:12PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭SuperO'B


    Really would like to pick up a new mustang next year. Does anyone have any details on suggested pricing or release date for these?

    I believe they are only being sold at certain Ford Dealers as well. Out of the country at the moment so don't want to ring and can't seem to find anything online.

    I'd be interested to see the mpg for the 2.3 ecoboost engine and see would it deliver decent enough performance while still not being M3 bad at the pumps.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,778 ✭✭✭goz83


    The basic mustang is only around $1000 more expensive than the mondeo, or whatever they call it there, so I should hope that starting prices are in around the high twenties to thirty mark. We shall see though :mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    SuperO'B wrote: »
    I'd be interested to see the mpg for the 2.3 ecoboost engine and see would it deliver decent enough performance



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭SuperO'B


    goz83 wrote: »
    The basic mustang is only around $1000 more expensive than the mondeo, or whatever they call it there, so I should hope that starting prices are in around the high twenties to thirty mark. We shall see though :mad:

    I found one article saying approx €45k and another saying >€50k

    I'd guess >€40k but would love to see it around €35k. The 2.3 gets approx 305bhp so nice to see if they can hit 35mpg at that. Might be a tall ask.

    I'm waiting for the 'mustang has to be a V8' brigade to wade in also but if you don't own a Mustang V8 already then please reserve judgement. I'm more than happy to take abuse off of someone with a 5.0 V8 on the matter! I think it's a beautiful looking car inside and out and 305hp is plenty for me regardless if it's 8,6 or 4 pot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,531 ✭✭✭Leonard Hofstadter


    The reviews are coming in, and already it is clear which is the correct model to go for - the one with the proper engine obviously!

    Even What Car?, a magazine renowned for telling people to buy poverty spec low power cars, says and I quote that the one with the wrong number of cylinders "feels like a bit of a show pony" and to buy the one with a proper muscle car engine (that would be the V8 for those who are wondering).

    http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/ford/mustang/2015-ford-mustang-review/1313913

    Other, less conservative, magazines say the same thing, unsurprisingly.

    Admittedly, it's a moot point in Ireland, the V8 is probably going to be over 225 g/km so will be in the top rate of tax (€2400 ish I think it is now), but let's be clear about one thing - the four cylinder is only an imitation muscle car - the V8 is the real deal.

    Incidentally, despite all the fuss about the four banger being an economical alternative, it only did 5 mpg better in the real world than the proper engine according to What Car's tests. And of course, the V8 is naturally aspirated as well.

    Even in Ireland it's hard to make a case for the V8 because the motor tax will be astronomical and it will lose value at the speed of light as a consequence of this, but in any other, sane, country, there is no contest despite all the claims that the four cylinder will still give the muscle car experience - the loud, low revving burble of a V8 is half the appeal of such a car in the first place.


  • Posts: 17,925 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What do you drive captainspeed?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,247 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    The 2.3 just doesnt sound or feel right for a muscle car. They may sell better on the forecourt, but come resale time the V8 will still be infinitely more attractive.

    If tax brackets are your thing , don't buy a muscle car. Simples.

    - and before the above posters start, already own a V8 , 1809 tax bothers me not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,146 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    What ever engine it has, it looks awesome. I'd drive the 2.3....but obviously would prefer a nice big V8. Although even I would feel sick to my stomach with that much tax to pay. (Currently paying over a grand in tax...)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭SuperO'B


    What ever engine it has, it looks awesome. I'd drive the 2.3....but obviously would prefer a nice big V8. Although even I would feel sick to my stomach with that much tax to pay. (Currently paying over a grand in tax...)

    Just rekindling an old one here..

    I agree, the 2.3 reviews say it's good to drive. Obviously it's not as smooth as a 5.0 V8 but still has 310bhp. If BHP was an issue then I am sure there are adjustments that can be made to up the power from 310. I'm not sure what the difference in pricing will be for the two sizes. Has anybody any information about the pricing structure for these when released? I'd be keen to get some bit of an official pricing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    Rekindled 3 hours ago yet still open. I rekindle one and its shut down within five minutes!


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,697 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    In fairness Jesus, you do have a habit of disappearing for 3 days and then wandering back like nothing happened


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,531 ✭✭✭Leonard Hofstadter


    Jesus. wrote: »
    Rekindled 3 hours ago yet still open. I rekindle one and its shut down within five minutes!

    This thread is only four months old, the thread you resurrected was more than five years old!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    This thread is only four months old, the thread you resurrected was more than five years old!

    Well, resurrection is my business ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭SuperO'B


    Wow, some good inputs on the thread their guys :-D ;-D

    I brought the thread back up as I believe it could be relative with the release date of the car getting closer so perhaps someone would have some better info than last time on prices etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,728 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    SuperO'B wrote: »
    Wow, some good inputs on the thread their guys :-D ;-D

    I brought the thread back up as I believe it could be relative with the release date of the car getting closer so perhaps someone would have some better info than last time on prices etc.

    I was told by Ford to expect info around Christmas as I've 2 customers very interested. Nothing through yet, so I'll chase in the morning when I'm back in the office.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭noelf


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    R.O.R wrote: »
    I was told by Ford to expect info around Christmas as I've 2 customers very interested. Nothing through yet, so I'll chase in the morning when I'm back in the office.

    September 2015 for UK sales whatcar.com ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Topper Harley


    In an ideal world if I was getting a Mustang I'd love a V8 but realistically the 2.3L EcoBoost is the one I'd likely be opting for. But even the 2.3 will supposedly do 0-60mph in 5.4 seconds which is pretty good.

    I know Mustang enthusiast's sentiment is that without a V8 it's not worthwhile but we're not in 1960's America and the latest model shows that Ford are trying to adapt it for modern global markets while also having an option available for the true enthusiast. And considering the variety of options available in some of the alternatives such as the 3 series coupe, they need options like these if they want a share of that market. And I imagine they need to break into the European market if they're to keep the Mustang alive as I noticed in America recently there seemed to be much more Camaros and Challengers than Mustangs.

    Now let's just wait to see how long it takes them to bring out a 1.6L TDCI. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭Cleveland Hot Pocket


    The original mustang was available with a range of engines, from a 6 cylinder to a range of v8s, 289ci to 429ci.
    No diffrent now. Cheap and economical or powerful and great sounding v8, purchasers can choose.

    I know which I'd have, but then again I can't buy one right now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭SuperO'B


    R.O.R wrote: »
    I was told by Ford to expect info around Christmas as I've 2 customers very interested. Nothing through yet, so I'll chase in the morning when I'm back in the office.

    That'd be great if you could get any info on it. I agree with the two last posts as well. Great if you can afford a 5.0 V8 but I'd be more than happy with the 2.3T as well given the option between no mustang or else a 2.3 310hp.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 18,006 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Seems the 2.3T isn't very economical, but with over 300bhp it was never going to be realistically.

    The dissapointing thing is it's C02 stats. These will push the taxes way up meaning the car will be expensive to buy and run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,106 ✭✭✭hi5


    The 2.3 is estimated to be 195g/kg so that will put it into €1200 per year tax, still almost half what the 5.0 will be though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭TBi


    Now let's just wait to see how long it takes them to bring out a 1.6L TDCI. :P

    No way they'd bring out a 1.6TDCI... would be too slow. Now a 1.6 BiTurbo BiTDCI would be perfect. Maybe a triple so you'd get the offbeat thrum to mimick the V6.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,152 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    hi5 wrote: »
    The 2.3 is estimated to be 195g/kg so that will put it into €1200 per year tax, still almost half what the 5.0 will be though.

    Alot cheaper than 1811 on E46 M3 :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Topper Harley


    TBi wrote: »
    No way they'd bring out a 1.6TDCI... would be too slow. Now a 1.6 BiTurbo BiTDCI would be perfect. Maybe a triple so you'd get the offbeat thrum to mimick the V6.

    Wrong, after the 1.6L TDCI they'll be working on a 3 cylinder 1.2L TDCI. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,775 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Thread is in bad need of pics to get my tongue hanging out with WANT!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Topper Harley


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,775 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    WANT!!!

    You legend Topper :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,728 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    SuperO'B wrote: »
    That'd be great if you could get any info on it. I agree with the two last posts as well. Great if you can afford a 5.0 V8 but I'd be more than happy with the 2.3T as well given the option between no mustang or else a 2.3 310hp.

    Mustang specialist in Ford Ireland is out until Monday. Hopefully get some info I can share then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭SuperO'B


    R.O.R wrote: »
    Mustang specialist in Ford Ireland is out until Monday. Hopefully get some info I can share then.

    That'd be great, thanks a lot for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,227 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Is there a price on these yet for Ireland?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,728 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    SuperO'B wrote: »
    That'd be great, thanks a lot for that.

    European embargo on information release until the middle of next week, but info should be loaded up to the Ford website as soon as it's available.

    Check Ford.ie for info next Wednesday / Thursday and hopefully there will be something there.


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