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Kelly brook, domestic violence and media silence

  • 10-09-2014 11:13am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭


    This one has come up as an aside to a couple of other threads running in after hours at the moment, but I figure it should have a standalone rather than getting into all the whataboutery stuff and deflecting from the far more serious issue!

    Kelly Brook, tabloid tottie and now admitted violent cow who likes to hit her boyfriends, classy!



    Interestingly the silence from mainstream commentators and also companies like Skechers who Kelly endorses has been pretty deafening. At best the story gets a few lines half way through the newspaper. Compare this to the (correct IMHO) opprobrium applied to Ray Rice when he displayed his inner scumbag for all to see and beat his (now) wife.

    So AHrs, would you continue to support or follow celebrities who engage in this sort of behaviour? Would you view Kelly differently to a man who did this, because she, in her own view is too little to cause them physical harm? Would you continue to buy products endorsed by celebrities who engage in such behaviour?

    My own view is that they should be shunned by the media and any right minded company and that consumers should make it clear they won't buy products where a share of the profits goes to scum like this. Bit idealistic perhaps and I know that many other celebs have murky pasts and presents, but I'm just uncomfortable with the idea of well all have a giggle with Kelly and move on....

    (Guess I'll have to find a deodorant other than Lynx...)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    tritium wrote: »

    (Guess I'll have to find a deodorant other than Lynx...)

    There are better reasons not to use Lynx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,707 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Can't watch vid, who did she admit to belting?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    I'm so annoyed that she finds it so funny. Like she's literally the only one that's amused by it, holly and that other fella look kind of disgusted. Nasty woman


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭Mr.McLovin


    She can beat the shíte out of me anyday of the week once I get some make up sex later :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭tritium


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Can't watch vid, who did she admit to belting?

    Two of her exes, Jason Statham and Danny Cipriani


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    holly and that other fella look kind of disgusted. Nasty woman

    That other fella has a name. Its Richard Judy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Umaro


    Punching your partner in the face should never be described as "firey passion"

    Love the way it ends with "I'm going to pick more wisely in the future what kind of men I be with-" some classic victim blaming!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭tritium


    Mr.McLovin wrote: »
    She can beat the shíte out of me anyday of the week once I get some make up sex later :D

    And the award for least classy and most moronic post can be given out even at this early stage.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Why would you expect the media to mention it? They make lots of money from her advertisements and photo shoots. They're hardly going to get rid of a cash cow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    And then turns around and blames them saying she will have to find nicer guys to date


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    She has really shown that she hasn't 2 brain cells to rub together. Advocating violence, even though she's smaller than the 2 lads she whacked, is still not on. This dope is in the public eye, and may have young people looking up to her.

    Pity she didn't engage the brain first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭tritium


    humanji wrote: »
    Why would you expect the media to mention it? They make lots of money from her advertisements and photo shoots. They're hardly going to get rid of a cash cow.

    Maybe because they would if she was a cash cow with a penis

    (Cash bull?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    jaykay74 wrote: »
    There are better reasons not to use Lynx

    Yeah, if you're not a teenage boy. Or, you don't like smelling of cat p!ss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,193 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    TV Celebrity Bimbette Acts Like Selfish Spoilt Brat, Makes Prick Of Self. President Informed At Home In Small Hours. More Later!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    humanji wrote: »
    Why would you expect the media to mention it? They make lots of money from her advertisements and photo shoots. They're hardly going to get rid of a cash cow.

    Schofield or his co-anchor really should have called her on this at the time instead of sitting there smirking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭harney


    tritium wrote: »
    And the award for least classy and most moronic post can be given out even at this early stage.....

    I think you may have won that one calling her a cow in the op.

    Stay classy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Looks
    Boobs
    Likes getting rough.
    She's almost a poor man's Angelina Jolie


    Sign me up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    She seems to be a classic mixture of 2 parts Psycho to 1 parts Dumb.

    She has pretty bad PR advisors if they let her come out with basically boasting about the unjustified punching of people in the face.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    And then turns around and blames them saying she will have to find nicer guys to date

    I watched three times and still can't find the bit where she turns around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    tritium wrote: »
    Interestingly the silence from mainstream commentators and also companies like Skechers who Kelly endorses has been pretty deafening. At best the story gets a few lines half way through the newspaper. Compare this to the (correct IMHO) opprobrium applied to Ray Rice when he displayed his inner scumbag for all to see and beat his (now) wife.


    The thing is, nobody really gives a shít what Kelly Brooks thinks, and the media know this. It's her image that sells, not her opinions.

    Compare that to a sports celebrity who's worth millions, and you'll see very quickly why brands will drop him like a hot snot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭Gannicus


    I would let Kelly Brook beat the ever-loving tar out of me if I was banging her. :D


    No but seriously even looking at that video Phil and Holly even had a bit of a chuckle at the issue. It speaks volumes that when someone like Kelly Brook openly admits to punching (not even slapping) her partner and nobody in the media or sponsors care that physical abuse by women to men is still to this day not being taken even remotely seriously. If the roles where reversed then the man would be the biggest animal on the planet and he's be made a pariah by friends sponsors etc.

    Is it any reason that men are still living in the shadows when it comes to reporting spousal abuse?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭tritium


    harney wrote: »
    I think you may have won that one calling her a cow in the op.

    Stay classy.

    Ooh we have a fan

    Go on so kelly tell us how great Kelly really is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    tritium wrote: »
    Maybe because they would if she was a cash cow with a penis

    (Cash bull?)

    They wouldn't, though. It's happened many times before with guys getting away with it and no media outlet giving two f*cks. The media only makes a fuss when the act is part of the celebrities media persona. Otherwise they're not going to try and change the status quo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Hmm, thread about how domestic violence against men doesn't get taken seriously, filled with comments from lads saying "I'd let her slap me around, hur hur hur!" :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭tritium


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    The thing is, nobody really gives a shít what Kelly Brooks thinks, and the media know this. It's her image that sells, not her opinions.

    Compare that to a sports celebrity who's worth millions, and you'll see very quickly why brands will drop him like a hot snot.

    That doesn't really make any sense C? Kelly, image sells, no one cares when she tarnishes that image. Sport star (male) wins big sports games, gets dropped like abbot snot if he tarnishes his image

    To take a comparable analogy, if Joey Essex slapped a woman would people just laugh it off?

    I think there may be something else going on there, possibly involving the gender thing....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    Domestic abuse is disgusting, what a horrible woman to sit there giggling about it. I'm sure she'd be the first to cry to the media if a boyfriend punched her in the face, so why is it ok for her to do it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    tritium wrote: »
    That doesn't really make any sense C? Kelly, image sells, no one cares when she tarnishes that image. Sport star (male) wins big sports games, gets dropped like abbot snot if he tarnishes his image

    I think there may be something else going on there, possibly involving the gender thing....

    It's worth pointing out that in the UK, soccer players rarely get dropped for things they do. There was some footballer (I don't follow it so have no idea who he was, or played for) that was involved in a racist attack. He was told if he did it again, he'd be dropped. He did it again and was told if he did it again, he'd be dropped. And he did it again.

    It all depends on the section of celebrity they're in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭harney


    tritium wrote: »
    Ooh we have a fan

    Go on so kelly tell us how great Kelly really is

    Nothing to do with being a fan or not. Just pointing out you can make a valid point and have some integrity doing so.

    Calling her a cow taints your point slightly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    tritium wrote: »
    Sport star (male) wins big sports games, gets dropped like abbot snot if he tarnishes his image

    I think there may be something else going on there, possibly involving the gender thing....

    American footballer knocks girlfriend now wife spark out with a single punch and then drags her unconscious ass out of lift who then says the video was taken out of context .

    Take glamour / underwear , shoe chick who says she punched her men for flirting ,
    It's almost a pr exercise look I'm a hard chick sign me up for roles .
    I'd love to hear there side were these full on assaults or something different


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭The Purveyor of Truth


    I'm so annoyed that she finds it so funny. Like she's literally the only one that's amused by it, holly and that other fella look kind of disgusted. Nasty woman

    Oh, disagree with you there..

    Schofield started off with a somewhat serious tone but at the end he was laughing with her and gave her a look like you would give a kid that was denying they eat a packet of biscuits that went missing. I can't imagine them having the same tone if they were discussing male-on-female domestic violence.

    The message is regularly sent in society that it's okay for women to hit guys. Each week you will see at least one or two TV shows or movies where a woman is slapping a guy for something, often in comedies. Same with women kneeing men in the groin but suree when we see how some women can laugh at another woman cutting of a man's penis, it's hardly surprising when society has a tumbleweed reaction to them punching and slapping them.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    People don't take it seriously. The comments on this thread prove that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭Gannicus


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Schofield or his co-anchor really should have called her on this at the time instead of sitting there smirking.
    `

    To me it seemed like they were trying not to giggle at it.

    She seems pretty ditzy alright. As a previous poster says if Joey Essex was the one sitting there Holly and Phil would have torn him apart from the get go. it really is a terrible double standard in the media and the wider population.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭tritium


    Oh, disagree with you there..

    Schofield started off with a somewhat serious tone but at the end he was laughing with her and gave her a look like you would give a kid that was denying they eat a packet of biscuits that went missing. I can't imagine them having the same tone if they were discussing male-on-female domestic violence.

    The message is regularly sent in society that it's okay for women to hit guys. Each week you will see at least one or two TV shows or movies where a woman is slapping a guy for something, often in comedies. Same with women kneeing men in the groin. Sure when we see how some women can laugh at woman cutting of a man's penis, it's hardly surprising when society has tumbleweed reaction to punches and slaps.


    Jeez that clip is screwed up. Can you imagine a male panel having a similar discussion about FGM?

    No, me neither

    We're in danger of going a bit off the op though. Would people still support celebs and the brands they endorse after this sort of scumbaggery?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭beks101


    Mr.McLovin wrote: »
    She can beat the shíte out of me anyday of the week once I get some make up sex later :D

    Really?

    You'd let this woman, or any woman you perceive to be 'hot', to full-on punch you right in the face any time she thought you had 'stepped out of line'? Just because you get to have sex with her?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    tritium wrote: »
    That doesn't really make any sense C? Kelly, image sells, no one cares when she tarnishes that image. Sport star (male) wins big sports games, gets dropped like abbot snot if he tarnishes his image


    Not exactly what I meant by "image" (as has clearly been displayed in this thread, people aren't interested in seeing much more beyond a pretty face and a nice rack), but with the likes of a sports star, their endorsements are based on their ability (think Tiger Woods, dropped by his sponsors after his affairs came out).

    To take a comparable analogy, if Joey Essex slapped a woman would people just laugh it off?


    I have to be honest, the mental image of Joey Essex slapping a woman gave me a chuckle. That's the problem with using celebrities as examples of what for some people is an everyday occurrence. It isn't helped by calling Kelly Brook a violent cow, because while it's nigh on impossible to take Kelly Brook seriously, calling her a violent cow is just giving her more validation than she really deserves, and people will be distracted from the issue of domestic violence in order to pull you up on what they see as your misogyny. Hey, don't look at me, I'm honestly not that fazed, the same way I wouldn't be fazed if I heard Joey Essex slapped a woman.

    I think there may be something else going on there, possibly involving the gender thing....


    Possibly? Of course it's a gender thing. A double standard exists in reality in society that will never be overcome by all the online talk of "gender equality" and all the rest of it. If you want to highlight the issue of female on male domestic violence specifically, then some silly socialite celebrity is probably not the best way to make that point, and an even worse way to make that point is to start off by referring to her as a violent cow.

    People will tend to miss your point.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭Dolbert


    Links234 wrote: »
    Hmm, thread about how domestic violence against men doesn't get taken seriously, filled with comments from lads saying "I'd let her slap me around, hur hur hur!" :o

    Even though it's exclusively men joking about it, it's still the feminists' fault. Somehow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭Isolt


    She's been saying lots of stupid stuff lately. I don't think she's a very smart lady and her advisors are making some very unwise choices. Personally I thought they should have been a little more tactful with her quotes about calling her stillborn baby a miscarriage. I totally understand this was Kelly's coping mechanism after such an awful tragedy but her advisors really should have been more aware of how these comments affect other grieving women, who did give birth and name their babies lost at the same gestation.
    Likewise, I worry a little bit about how the giggling response to this woman punching a man in the face is affecting the men out there who are trying to get themselves in the headspace to leave an abusive relationship. I don't expect much better from her, she's not really very intelligent but I am a bit disappointed with how much of her nonsense is being listened to/entertained.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    beks101 wrote: »
    Really?

    You'd let this woman, or any woman you perceive to be 'hot', to full-on punch you right in the face any time she thought you had 'stepped out of line'? Just because you get to have sex with her?

    Have you ever heard the saying

    Beat me,
    Spank me,
    And tie me to a chair ,

    Mostly amoust men and young men

    All is forgiven for a good ride

    Not my opinion but it's fairly common she's hot and I'd rather people went dude your awesome your missus is hot as stink


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    Gatling wrote: »
    All is forgiven for a good ride

    Not my opinion but it's fairly common she's hot and I'd rather people went dude your awesome your missus is hot as stink
    ****ing hell are you 15?!

    Anythings fair game once "the lads" think your missus is hot?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 53 ✭✭Classicporter


    humanji wrote: »
    It's worth pointing out that in the UK, soccer players rarely get dropped for things they do. There was some footballer (I don't follow it so have no idea who he was, or played for) that was involved in a racist attack. He was told if he did it again, he'd be dropped. He did it again and was told if he did it again, he'd be dropped. And he did it again.

    It all depends on the section of celebrity they're in.

    I' be surprised if footballers weren't dropped by their sponsors if they were known woman beaters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭Gannicus


    Gatling wrote: »
    Have you ever heard the saying

    Beat me,
    Spank me,
    And tie me to a chair ,

    Mostly amoust men and young men

    All is forgiven for a good ride

    Not my opinion but it's fairly common she's hot and I'd rather people went dude your awesome your missus is hot as stink

    I know I'll be brought to task for my original post BUT

    Thats easy to say now as you're not in a violent relationship but tell that to men who are being physically and mentally abused by their wives and girlfriends etc but are feeling too ashamed or afraid for people to know its happening to them.

    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    That doesn't in any, way shape of form negate what she did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭The Purveyor of Truth


    One wonders if there'll be a Saturday Night Live sketch parodying the Ray Rice incident, using *ACTUAL ASSAULT* footage as is what was precisely done with the footage of Solange Knowles kicking and punching her brother in law, Jay-Z.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    tritium wrote: »
    Two of her exes, Jason Statham and Danny Cipriani

    Jesus, I hope they're both ok!:eek:

    I sometimes get told I look like Jason Statham, I reckon I could pull Kelly* and I'd happily risk the domestic violence.



    *May not be accurate, would be more likely to pull a hamstring in the attempt.:D


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    If the media made a big deal every time someone punched Danny Cirpriani there'd be no space left for anything else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    So a "real mans man" wouldn't be that bothered if they got punched in the face?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    humanji wrote: »
    It's worth pointing out that in the UK, soccer players rarely get dropped for things they do. There was some footballer (I don't follow it so have no idea who he was, or played for) that was involved in a racist attack. He was told if he did it again, he'd be dropped. He did it again and was told if he did it again, he'd be dropped. And he did it again.

    It all depends on the section of celebrity they're in.

    What does a football player have anything to with female on male violence? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    It saddens me to see how many men say they'd happily accept her hitting them if she had sex with them too.

    Men being victims of domestic violence is taboo enough as it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    I've had many rows with many girlfriends over the years and sometimes been on the receiving end of a clatter or two (usually deserved too I have to say). I don't give a toss what anyone says, it is not the same thing as a man boxing a woman, no amount of political correctness will ever make it so.


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