Operation Ore - was there a paedophile at heart of Blair government?

porsche959

The Operation Ore scandal of a decade ago has sensationally reared its head again, with Tom Watson MP tweeting to Rupert Murdoch as follows:


https://twitter.com/tom_watson/status/509265233727459328

Some background:

Child porn arrests ‘too slow’ (19.01.2003)

Herald and the Sunday Herald, The (Glasgow, Scotland)-January 19, 2003
OPERATION Ore, the police inquiry which plans to arrest a further 7000 men across the UK, in addition to Who guitarist Pete Townshend, for buying child pornography online is set to end in disaster with many suspects walking free.Detective Chief Inspector Bob McLachlan, former head of Scotland Yard’s paedophile unit, told the Sunday Herald that the lack of urgency in making arrests will lead to suspects destroying evidence of downloading child pornography before they are arrested.The Sunday Herald has also had confirmed by a very senior source in British intelligence that at least one high-profile former Labour Cabinet minister is among Operation Ore suspects. The Sunday Herald has been given the politician’s name but, for legal reasons, can not identify the person.There are still unconfirmed rumours that another senior Labour politician is among the suspects. The intelligence officer said that a ”rolling” Cabinet committee had been set up to work out how to deal with the potentially ruinous fall-out for both Tony Blair and the government if arrests occur.Since the September 2002 Operation Ore arrest of Detective Constable Brian Stevens, a key officer in the inquiry into the murders of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman, the public have been aware that wanted suspects had downloaded child pornography from a US website called Landslide.

http://spotlightonabuse.wordpress.com/2013/02/09/child-porn-arrests-too-slow-19-01-2003/

donvito99

I couldn't tell you to be quite honest, very sorry.

porsche959

Only one, facetious, reply. Interesting, looks like if MUSSLIMS can't be blamed posters aren't interested.

The_Valeyard

porsche959 wrote: »

Only one, facetious, reply. Interesting, looks like if MUSSLIMS can't be blamed posters aren't interested.

Maybe people honestly do not know so they cant comment. Cheers for branding us as racists though....

porsche959

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Maybe people honestly do not know so they cant comment. Cheers for branding us as racists though....

But people who "honestly do not know" feel free to fulminate on the Rotherham abuse scandal, where the perpetrators are mainly Asians and frankly mainly working class also......there is a double standard here IMO. Not necessarily on the part of you, me, or everyone, but still.

In the Rotherham thread, the Labour councils were - justifiably - damned from a great height and political correctness was blamed, whereas -and I don't just mean in this thread, or even just on this forum - a lot of strident voices with strong opinions on child abuse fall remarkably silent when mention of mainly white politician child abusers also getting off the hook is brought up.

Peregrinus

The story is ten years old, and it is foolish to think that a single tweet can revive it.

Furthermore, what Watson is hinting at is not really that a senior Labour figure is being protected. It is that the Murdoch press used its copy of the Ore suspect list to press politicians and others named on it for favours.

We now know - in fact, we have known since 2007 - that many of the names on the list were wholly innocent. What the UK police had, and were acting upon, was a list of credit cards which had been used to purchase product from Landslide Productions Inc, a Texas based pornographer. Landslide hosted a wide range of pornographic websites, many of which, however distasteful, were not illegal. Many of the names on the list, therefore, were of people who had purchased adult pornography.

And, it transpired, many other names on the list were of people who hadn't purchased any pornography at all; their credit card details had been stolen or hacked and used by others. A signficant proportion of pornography purchases (and, for obvious reasons, especially of illegal pornography purchases) is made using fake or stolen credit cards.

Watson knows all this. He is not suggesting that the Murdoch press cravenly protected prominent people who it knew were purchasers of child pornography; he is suggesting that they approached these people and told them that they were on the list and sought favours from them to keep the matter quiet, knowing that even if those people were completely innocent it would still do them irreparable damage to be named as being on the list. He is suggesting that the Murdoch press blackmailed people, basically.

I'm not saying that everyone on the Ore list was innocent. More than 1,400 of them were convicted. But if somebody wasn't prosecuted or convicted, before we leap into conspiracy-theory-land to explain this we should ask ourselves whether there was any actual evidence of their guilt.

porsche959

^ I take your valid points regarding Operation Ore but I reckon there's a little bit more to this than meets the eye.

tom_watson ‏@tom_watson Sep 9 @rupertmurdoch have your papers ever been given child abuse allegations they didn't publish? I'm thinking 1980s? Think hard please.



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tony-blair-demands-investigation-claims-3484990

humanji

I'm closing this, mostly because you're being a dick to other posters, but also because it's either best posted in the conspiracy theories forum or one of the other threads on British paedophile rings.